UK Covid-19 antibody tests not ready until May at earliest

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Definitely, and that would be wonderful.

I'm struggling to see how that would fit with what's being seen, though, which looks a lot like this was (earlier this year) relatively new out of China, spreading rapidly through countries causing sufficiently serious conditions in enough people that wealthy healthcare systems were overwhelmed. It just doesn't seem like something that would slip quietly through half the population.

But maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there was some variant milder strain that looked more like seasonal flu that still provides protection against this newer one. (I'd love to be wrong; I very much miss hugging strangers to Argentinian music from the early 20th century, a hobby which I fear will return some time after pubs and restaurants can open.)
Hi Bruce,

Cambridge university experts are now saying the virus was spreading months before we thought. With international air travel, who knows how long other countries have had the virus.

 
Hi Bruce,

Cambridge university experts are now saying the virus was spreading months before we thought. With international air travel, who knows how long other countries have had the virus.


FWIW, that Cambridge study has been widely rejected by the virologists/epidemiologists I follow on Twitter.

There's a whole lot of crappy corona-related pre-prints being rushed out; best to wait a while and see what survives scrutiny.
 
Definitely, and that would be wonderful.

I'm struggling to see how that would fit with what's being seen, though, which looks a lot like this was (earlier this year) relatively new out of China, spreading rapidly through countries causing sufficiently serious conditions in enough people that wealthy healthcare systems were overwhelmed. It just doesn't seem like something that would slip quietly through half the population.

But maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there was some variant milder strain that looked more like seasonal flu that still provides protection against this newer one. (I'd love to be wrong; I very much miss hugging strangers to Argentinian music from the early 20th century, a hobby which I fear will return some time after pubs and restaurants can open.)
Hi Bruce,

Todays news looks to be showing the likelihood of the virus having been around far longer than reported.
 
My pharmacist acquaintance is absolutely sure something was going on in November/December simply because of the number of respiratory disease prescriptions they were dispensing. Way, way beyond anything they had ever experienced before. Whether it was CV or some other respiratory infection is open to question. The death stats suggest it was something else.
 
My pharmacist acquaintance is absolutely sure something was going on in November/December simply because of the number of respiratory disease prescriptions they were dispensing. Way, way beyond anything they had ever experienced before. Whether it was CV or some other respiratory infection is open to question. The death stats suggest it was something else.
A lot of people reckon there was something around, but as you say, I'd have expected more deaths after Christmas and New Year, after everyone had mixed at parties, if it had been Covid then.
Something I read a few weeks ago, to support the October theory in China, was that all mobile phone traffic stopped for a few days at the suspect Wuhan lab, supporting the theory that something had occurred there. Of course, it may have been due to some entirely unrelated problem.
 

Really flimsy, IMO. There continues to be a whole lot of dubious academic coronavirus click bait being ground out & promoted by university PR departments, which often have a shocking record for hype. Wait until to see whether it gets accepted by the scientific community before taking much notice of this kind of thing.

Or at least wait to see what Helen Whately thinks of it. I've adopted her as my COVID-19 guru.
 
My friend (aged 85) and I (aged 70), who are 250 miles apart, both came down with something very similar in December despite having the flu jab - hacking cough, lethargy, lack of appetite, headache, wheezy, but no runny nose. We both spent about a week in bed (I had to sleep sitting up for 3 nights and my neighbours reported they could hear my coughing, it was that bad), then a further 3 - 5 weeks recovery. Her son is convinced she had COVID-19 but I am not so sure. I recall seeing an article suggesting there was a variant of OC43 going around at that time - another flu virus which was not covered by the flu jab. But she intends to get tested for antibodies when she can, and if she comes back positive then I might do the same. There was that French post confirming a positive COVID-19 test at the end of December.
 
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