Type 2

[Leadinglights]

No the diabetic clinic never told me to drink that much water I read it somewhere where it said water dose take the blood sugar down

You may be confusing what is suggested for those taking the 'flozin' oral medications as that medication is encouraging the kidneys to excrete excess glucose via urine which means lots more peeing so people can become dehydrated. Also for sudden high glucose then it suggests people can bring it lower by drinking extra.
The problem if your kidneys are not working at optimum then you will tend to get water retention and oedema.

 

[trophywench]

Guess what a common side effect of Accrete D3 tablets is? - extreme thirst! I discovered this by accessing the patient information leaflet online.

I'm not saying it is them at fault, obviously, but this just absolutely reinforces the fact that you definitely need to talk to your doc about all of this, cos drinking that amount of liquid all the time can't possibly do any good for anybody.

 

[Web73]

I'm in agony all the while with my stomach cause I have ibs as well that swells it up a bit I drink that amount of water just to try get the blood sugar down but I no im gona ha to stop doing that but didn't no that about the accrete d3

 

[Web73]

Hello @Web73
Welcome to the forum.
Are you on any medication and are you drinking due to excessive thirst?
We are always interested in finding out what a type 2 is eating, as that seems quite important for us so perhaps if you let us know what you do eat .
To be having such high numbers must be concerning. Have you kept in touch with your GP or nurse about those levels?

I'm not thirsty all the while and to b honest I don't eat alot sometimes I can go days with out eating and then when I do eat its just bits I'm thin every where apart from my stomach

 

[Web73]

Levemir is usually taken morning and evening @Web73 What instructions were you given about when to take it? The idea is that it then provides background cover over the 24hrs. It takes a few hours to reach its peak of action so it’s no use injecting it to bring down a high blood sugar. That’s not its job. You’d need a fast insulin for that.

If you skip breakfast, it might be that your body pumps out extra glucose to compensate. That might explain why your blood sugar rises through the morning.

Really you need support to get your Levemir schedule right. You might then find that your blood sugars improve. The correct insulin at the right times will bring your blood sugar down much, much better than water.

When do you take your second dose of Levemir?

Last time I went to the diabetic clinic I told him exactly how I took my insulin and he did go mad whe I to him it was 12 on an afternoon and then about 11 or half 11 on a night but I got into a ruteen of taking those times iv got to change it starting tonight taking it at 8 then when I get up in the morning after trying to eat breakfast

 

[Drummer]

You seem to be on a treadmill going at high speed - your diet is high in carbs, wrong for a type 2, and the insulin supposed to deal with it seems to be inadequate to the task, but you the try to treat the high blood glucose by drinking excessive amounts of water. I don't have any experience with insulin - but shouldn't high BG after eating mean a correction dose of insulin?
I have read that people with IBS find relief on a low carb diet, avoiding grain, after years of pain.
As you are not overweight you might well need insulin to keep you well - but your diet isn't exactly nutritious particularly as you don't eat regularly.

 

[Inka]

I don't have any experience with insulin - but shouldn't high BG after eating mean a correction dose of insulin?

No, not with Levemir! That’s what I was warning the OP about in my post @Drummer

 

[dalebyrne88]

Maybe a suggestion is to try and something small in mornings as a trail like a 2 egg omelette and then check to see how your levels measure to see if any impact.

Also what are your evening meals consist of if they are carb loaded this will impact levels and cause insulin resistance which can be underlying cause of the problem.

 

[Drummer]

I don't have any experience with insulin - but shouldn't high BG after eating mean a correction dose of insulin?

No, not with Levemir! That’s what I was warning the OP about in my post @Drummer

Ah - Levemir is a long acting insulin - so the timing of doses is the most significant factor.

 

[Web73]

You seem to be on a treadmill going at high speed - your diet is high in carbs, wrong for a type 2, and the insulin supposed to deal with it seems to be inadequate to the task, but you the try to treat the high blood glucose by drinking excessive amounts of water. I don't have any experience with insulin - but shouldn't high BG after eating mean a correction dose of insulin?
I have read that people with IBS find relief on a low carb diet, avoiding grain, after years of pain.
As you are not overweight you might well need insulin to keep you well - but your diet isn't exactly nutritious particularly as you don't eat regularly.

Believe it or not no im not over weight 11and a half stone or just under I love salad but struggle to eat it cause of the ibs but deffo not over weight iv started tonight had my t early took my insulin at 8 so hopefully from on in it will work what everyone has been helping me with

 

[Drummer]

Believe it or not no im not over weight 11and a half stone or just under I love salad but struggle to eat it cause of the ibs but deffo not over weight iv started tonight had my t early took my insulin at 8 so hopefully from on in it will work what everyone has been helping me with

That is why I thought that you must really need the insulin, as many type 2s put on weight so easily. I think that there are many different types of diabetes all lumped together under one title.
I tend to eat at about 12 hour intervals, as that works for me. Just by eating low carb foods, avoiding low fat alternatives my glucose numbers are just about normal.
I eat a lot of eggs meat cheese or fish based meals, and don't eat potatoes or grains, as Humans can live on protein and fats quite happily. The carbs I eat give colour, texture and variety.

 

[Web73]

That is why I thought that you must really need the insulin, as many type 2s put on weight so easily. I think that there are many different types of diabetes all lumped together under one title.
I tend to eat at about 12 hour intervals, as that works for me. Just by eating low carb foods, avoiding low fat alternatives my glucose numbers are just about normal.
I eat a lot of eggs meat cheese or fish based meals, and don't eat potatoes or grains, as Humans can live on protein and fats quite happily. The carbs I eat give colour, texture and variety.

I'm on a injection called trulicity I take that once a week but I love my cheese to much bread and crisps but cheese don't like me

 

[dalebyrne88]

I'm on a injection called trulicity I take that once a week but I love my cheese to much bread and crisps but cheese don't like me

My experience is I'm ok having cheese but any breads and crisps are massive red flags they massively spike my sugars and being carbs play havoc with with my glucose levels which looking at your previous post looks to be happening with you loading up on carbs.

 

[Web73]

My experience is I'm ok having cheese but any breads and crisps are massive red flags they massively spike my sugars and being carbs play havoc with with my glucose levels which looking at your previous post looks to be happening with you loading up on carbs.

I'm not gona lie to ya your right and its hard trying to cut it out but I'm gona have to try

 

[Leadinglights]

I'm on a injection called trulicity I take that once a week but I love my cheese to much bread and crisps but cheese don't like me

I wonder if some of your problems is the medications you are taking all reacting with each other. The side effects of the trulicity sound somewhat like what you are reporting and the Xigduo is a combined metformin and dapagliflozin which may also have those side effects. As you are not overweight It is sounding as if you don't necessarily fit the profile of Type 2 so it may be worth you asking the question about having just a basal insulin like the Levimir but also a bolus insulin that you can have for food instead of the other combination of meds.

 

[Web73]

I wonder if some of your problems is the medications you are taking all reacting with each other. The side effects of the trulicity sound somewhat like what you are reporting and the Xigduo is a combined metformin and dapagliflozin which may also have those side effects. As you are not overweight It is sounding as if you don't necessarily fit the profile of Type 2 so it may be worth you asking the question about having just a basal insulin like the Levimir but also a bolus insulin that you can have for food instead of the other combination of meds.

Well iv got to c the diabetic clinic the end of the month so will deffo c him thank u all

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Hope you get some answers @Web73

Do chat things through with your Dr, especially the high intake of water and the discomfort and hardness you get in your stomach. That definitely needs investigating and sorting out by the sound of things.

You might find a very small ‘token’ breakfast is enough to stop your liver releasing glucose after you get up - just a chunk of cheese, some cold meats, or some nuts or seeds perhaps? Probably best to avoid having something high in carbohydrates if your BG levels are often rising at that time anyway?

 

[Web73]

Hi there iv started a little breakfast and way less water and touch wood everything is coming down

 

[Lucyr]

Hi there iv started a little breakfast and way less water and touch wood everything is coming down

Glad you’re making progress