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Trying to explain my glucose levels (was Diazepam)

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If anything I need to force myself to eat, it is why it was a surprise to me and the doctors that I was diabetic to start with. I do seem to have less appetite than I used to, though, so with only starting Sitagliptin this summer I wonder if that may be why?

Still not feeling any better about things today, still just very confused.
 
If anything I need to force myself to eat, it is why it was a surprise to me and the doctors that I was diabetic to start with. I do seem to have less appetite than I used to, though, so with only starting Sitagliptin this summer I wonder if that may be why?

Still not feeling any better about things today, still just very confused.
Sorry to hear this. I know we had a forum member i can't remember name just that don't visit anymore , asked for hospital referral and the hospital bounced them back to GP.
 
I worked out what to write to my G.P., so emailed a letter this evening. Basically I just explained my experience with the clinic, said how important it was to me for everything to make sense, and that it no longer does. So I asked if the clinic does not seem interested in why Gliclazide ceased working or my C-peptide result, should I be worried about these.

Initial results from the Dapagliflozin have been good, though probably misleading. Friday I was 16.2 and 10.2, but this weekend after starting it I have been 9.2 and 84. yesterday, and 9.0 and 11.2 today. It is misleading though because I have also not eaten very much.

I order my repeat prescriptions yesterday, and another thing I realized is that it could be my last set of test strips. Presumably once the clinic writes to them they will stop them when they remove Gliclazide from my prescription.

Meanwhile, as the surgery has still ignored my question about the anaemia blood tests result, I will have to ask them to make an appointment with a doctor so I can ask them if I need to make an appointment with a doctor! Although, it is what the nurse said to do when giving me my final shot.

And I am having to defer Friday's missed blood tests until Tuesday now, as someone is coming tomorrow to replace a tyre on my bike as it has an unrepairable puncture. It feels like it will be finally ready to go back on the road, at expense and which I need to be able to visit my dad, just in time to be prevented by the next lockdown.

Things could be going better.
 
I worked out what to write to my G.P., so emailed a letter this evening. Basically I just explained my experience with the clinic, said how important it was to me for everything to make sense, and that it no longer does. So I asked if the clinic does not seem interested in why Gliclazide ceased working or my C-peptide result, should I be worried about these.

Initial results from the Dapagliflozin have been good, though probably misleading. Friday I was 16.2 and 10.2, but this weekend after starting it I have been 9.2 and 84. yesterday, and 9.0 and 11.2 today. It is misleading though because I have also not eaten very much.

I order my repeat prescriptions yesterday, and another thing I realized is that it could be my last set of test strips. Presumably once the clinic writes to them they will stop them when they remove Gliclazide from my prescription.

Meanwhile, as the surgery has still ignored my question about the anaemia blood tests result, I will have to ask them to make an appointment with a doctor so I can ask them if I need to make an appointment with a doctor! Although, it is what the nurse said to do when giving me my final shot.

And I am having to defer Friday's missed blood tests until Tuesday now, as someone is coming tomorrow to replace a tyre on my bike as it has an unrepairable puncture. It feels like it will be finally ready to go back on the road, at expense and which I need to be able to visit my dad, just in time to be prevented by the next lockdown.

Things could be going better.
I had my strips stopped on my prescription recently but I have been off Gliclazide quite a while, though only used to get 50 a month so part self funded too.
 
Hope things begin to improve for you soon @Becka
 
There is one good thing about having gone to the clinic. Although my weight is unchanged, and I do not feel any slimmer, I am having to use the narrowest setting on my belt yet my jeans are still feel a little looser than they used to. I would have been really worried about that had the not tested my urine.

I was also thinking about my unusually high blood pressure readings they took, and think they must have just been due to the stress I was feeling being there. Which I would have not thought to be an unusual reaction by people referred there (especially in a building that is also used as a Covid treatment centre, even if the two halves are segregated!) although they acted like it was a sign of a general problem rather than a freak result.

My levels were much lower today, 8.1 and 8.0, although I am still not feeling particularly great so not eating much. I did make myself eat a full tea this evening, partly to avoid best before date waste, so will see what effect that has in the morning. And I am still feel nauseous now from the eating.

Looking on the Yellow Card profile for Dapagliflozin, gastrointestinal problems are one of the most common side effects, of those the main one is nausea and vomiting. The symptoms started before I took it, but they do seem to be worse now.
 
Just a small update to say there has been no update.

I did get a reply to my letter, except it was nothing to do with that but instead said because I failed the B12 antibody tests that it is likely dietary and the shots I had should be enough. Still a bit worrying, but I can wait for three months then see if I still have symptoms in the new year after the shots will have run out.

The new meds have definitely reduced my levels, I am still not eating much but had a 7.1 last evening, though was 10.2 this morning. But mostly they have been 8s and 9s. I have no idea whether I am supposed to consider that good.

It used to be that I considered anything in the 7s and over as bad, but if I was given a target all those years ago I have long forgotten it. So maybe they will consider those numbers good? I do not, but this experience has made it clear that I have no idea what the clinic and surgery think or care about, and they seemingly feel likewise about me.
 
A wee update. Still nothing from the surgery about my questions, though they keep pestering me about a flu shot. Maybe the pharmacy did not informed them I had one there, as they said they would, but I have no reason to assume competence from the surgery.

But the other day I received a letter from the diabetes clinic saying I have a telephone appointment in December. I am surprised they did not just discharge me back to a G.P. given they did nothing. I am not sure whether to cancel it, as it just seems a waste of time. They did not even order an HbA1c to be taken ahead of it, so what could I tell them? But as worried as I have been about the situation, with no help from the surgery and clinic it was only making it worse. So it seems best just to give up caring about it all until and if things get worse.

One thing which has confused me, though, is the letter included a copy of precis of the appointment which was sent to the surgery. Under prescriptions it lists Sitagliptin and Metformin as "Repeat" and Dapagliflozin as "Acute," which makes it sound like I do not need to request a new prescription when the month supply they gave me runs out. Bu that surely makes no sense, and the surgery has already updated my repeat prescriptions to replace Gliclazide with it.

Interestingly they have left test strips and lancets on the order, although I am not sure whether to bother daily testing any more. Especially as the table for target values and recommended actions on the letter is blank, so I have nothing to test for.

However under "G.P. Actions" it says to arrange ABPM/HBPM, despite me explaining and providing recent readings to show theirs was a one-off and higher than any I have had before. One aberrant blood pressure reading and it is taken as a serious issue, but months of glucose readings and blood test results and they ignore them. It will be interesting to see if the surgery contacts me to do anything, past experience of other clinics making requests in this way suggests not. Although at least in this case they should know it is an overreaction.

Whilst I have still been testing daily, I seem to be getting a lot of 8s and 9s, once lower, several times in double figures. But I am still not eating much between stomach pain, appetite, and having little in the house. Suddenly the supermarket delivery slots are disappearing even with still having priority access. A few weeks ago I was able to get one with next day delivery, when I tried last week the first available slots were for tomorrow.

It is quite obvious on the graph when I had to go without Metformin for a week, and when I started Dapagliflozin.

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Hello, I have not been here for a while. Somewhat fed up with what was happening, and more generally struggling for various reasons. But I have an update of sorts.

When the story last ended I had realized the only way to cope was to not care, as I was not getting any answers. But then several weeks ago I got a text from the good G.P. saying he had prescribed me B12 tablets and I needed to book a diabetic review, and to speak to a doctor afterwards.

So I asked the surgery to do that. And a week later I asked the surgery to do that. And then I contacted N.H.S. England, in accordance with the information on their web site, to make a complaint about them. Whilst waiting for a reply I then got a text message to say I had an appointment booked. I am quite sure the two events were unrelated, because I got a stock reply from the N.H.S. saying they could not take a complaint that is being handled by the surgery.

A bit odd, as I never said I had complained to the surgery. And I have never complained to the surgery. So I clarified this, only to be given the same stock reply. So last week I have forwarded all of that to my M.P. asking her to get the N.H.S. to address it.

Back at the surgery I attended the diabetic review, though I could not speak to a G.P. afterwards. There were not even any in attendance at that time. My feet still work properly, incidentally, though my blood pressure was a little high and I was told to come back next week for a retest. I was also referred to a telephone appointment with a doctor about the mental health part.

So on that call I asked about the B12 message that I was supposed to talk to a doctor about, but she did not know what it was about and booked a telephone consultation with the good G.P. The mental health stuff, incidentally, lead nowhere as expected. Though it made me make another complaint, this time to the local C.C.G. about a previous decision of theirs.

You could probably have skipped the above, as this is where it all becomes relevant. Although first I should say I tested my blood pressure at home before the retest and it was fine. Then at the surgery it was really bad. 150/110-ish bad. But I was told to test it again when I am home and they would see what that says. And that was good, 120/70-ish. I have had poorer readings at home too, so I is not the monitor. Very strange, but apparently I should just keep monitoring it.

So I spoke to the good G.P., apparently my B12 levels were always at the lower end of normal so it may be diet. Though after a month on the tablets he ordered a test of my levels to see I was able to metabolize the tablets or whether it is a problem. I have asked the surgery twice for an appointment to discuss them, but…

The thing about the good G.P. is that he is good at his job. He knows I do not like using the telephone, so wanted me to talk to him or the other G.P. I trust in person after the review and the surgery ignored his request when making the appointment. In briefly mentioning my difficulty with the surgery though I referred to trying to contact him after the confusing experience with the diabetes clinic.

He said he would check my results from the summer with a consultant, who thought I would need to add either take a GLP-1 agonist or a long-acting insulin. However as I was only ordered an HbA1c at the review they did not yet have the result from that to see how well the Dapagliflozin had worked.

Meanwhile, the day after that review I had a follow-up telephone appointment with the diabetes clinic. So not much could happen there either, so they said they would call back in two weeks when they had my latest HbA1c. Though I did tell both the nurse and the good G.P. that I was not liking the medication as I was constantly going to the toilet and thirsty. Both had the same reply, that that is how the medication works. The good G.P. giving a more detailed explanation of why those effects will all stop when mysteriously levels lower.

I have not really been going to the toilet more than I was with very high levels, just that where before I would desperate to go just to release an ounce, now it was pints. It is the thirst that is really bothering me though. I am sitting here with 24 2L bottles of (sugar-free) pop stocked up just because I go through it so quickly now.

Before I was averaging around 11–13 mmol/L in the morning and around 15 mmol/L in the evenings, though my HbA1c in summer was 9.3%, which surprised me how low it was.

Since taking Dapagliflozin I am 9 mmol/l in the morning and 10–11 mmol/L in the evening.

I got a text from the surgery saying I should contact them about my HbA1c results, which is standard and was expected. Though I am surprised not to receive one about my B12 levels, even when results are kay they sent a "no action required" message. But as I said, I have asked for an appointment and yet to receive one. Given Christmas nothing may happen until next year, meanwhile I completed the original B12 prescription so am not taking anything pending discussing the result.

But on Friday the diabetes nurse called back, and she had my latest HbA1c result. She did not, though, have the C-peptide result which lead to my referral to the clinic. Which actually was more annoying, because it means when the doctor ignored me for raising it as the reason I was referred to the clinic it was not because she felt it unimportant, but that she did not know or care. No wonder she initially suggested retaking Gliclazide even though it was ineffective.

After over two months of Dapagliflozin being added to Sitagaliptin and Metformin my HbA1c had fallen to 8.8%.

The nurse was surprised, and I was shocked. Given the change to my fasting readings I was expecting something like 7.8%. She agreed with the treatment mentioned by my G.P., however you need a B.M.I. over 30 to be prescribed a GLP-1, so that was not an option for me. Well, I suppose not unless I have a really good Christmas.

And that is not going to happen as mine was cancelled long ago. My sister works in a school and has two children, so being clinically extremely vulnerable I already decided it was not an ideal place for me to go. Then last week my sister and dad agreed he would not go either because my niece and nephew are both isolating due to school contacts. And now I am in tier four anyway so now cannot legally go anyway.

Not being allowed a GLP-1 agonist, and with a too-long wait for an in-person appointment, the nurse sent her recommendation to their head doctor. I had hoped he would want to discuss it with me, as the nurse said he may want to do before prescribing, but apparently he was happy with her recommendation. So I will start taking a long-acting insulin in the middle of January, as that is the first available in-person appointment with a nurse.

Not sure how I feel about that. Under the circumstances I would have rather had the GLP-1 just because it avoids having to worry about hypos. The one thing I did not like abut Gliclazide was the lack of control over the hypos. With insulin I would rather it was all or nothing, to at least have control. But instead I just keep taking the drug cocktail, having to hope the that-is-how-it-works side-effects of Dapagliflozin go away, with the added risk of random hypos, but also now having to deal with the D.V.L.A.'s requirements too.

But I guess that is the end of that story.

The B12 one is still outstanding, but I either responded to tablets so just need to supplement, or I did not and will need shots. Although I in hindsight I have wondered what the good G.P. meant when he said my levels were always low when I am not aware of them having been tested before. They were only were tested in summer to investigate a low red cell count. So I still wonder if Metformin could be the cause, as I am sure I have enough fortified foods in my diet, but ultimately it does not affect whatever the eventual solution will be.
 
You should find a long-acting insulin kinder to manage than things like Gliclazide, in that the insulin sort of drips in gently in the background for however long it's active - rather than forcing your own pancreas to shoot out extra insulin whenever it happens to do that in your body and if it's right when you don't happen to need any extra insulin and haven't got a carb load - then eek.
 
My paper prescription has arrived, so now I just need to work out how to get it dispensed with being back in shielding.

Anyway, I have been prescribed Abasaglar, does as directed. As I have not actually been directed, I suppose I will find out when I attend the clinic next year. But presumably it will just start low, and then follow up in three months on whether to increase.

I also spoke to a G.P. yesterday (should have been the good one, it was not, no idea why) who said my B12 levels were very good after taking the oral tablets. So I do not need to take anything more because of how long the body stores it, but should have a monitoring blood test in June.

I am still a little confused as if I were storing it then it should not have dropped again after taking shots? But I do not really care any more, the only way to avoid worry and stress. Either my B12 levels will fall again so that anaemia will be shown on my regular blood tests (assuming shielding stops so I can attend them), or I will find out in summer. I just have to try to not need to understand.
 
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