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Treating a Hypo

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Ellie Jones

Ellie Jones

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Normally when I'm hypo it's pretty easy to sort and get blood back to normal level... But lately I'm being driven they changed indeed and not sure why..

Norma

usally it takes 3-5 jelly babies depandant on my reading to sort within 15 minutes I'm either back to normal or levels are well on the way to normal..

But the last several hypo's this hasn't happened, I've continued to drop, so treated again another 15 minutes and well lucky to get I may have least got back to where I started! but because I've doubled treated I end up for me high, hitting 7 or 8 mmol/l...

I thought at first perhaps it was because I had changed the type of jelly babies to Tecso mini gems, which are harder so change back to Jelly Babies but the same is happening, dropping before going back up and then over treating!

And ideas whats going on?
 
Hate to say it but maybe the jelly babies have stopped working for you. Unfortunately this is the nature of the beast. Some people find that certain things stop working for no apparent reason. For example we can no longer use glucogel, glucotabs, hypofit etc.

We can only use coke or lucozade.

Can I suggest that you try coke of lucozade for a while and leave the jelly babies alone for a few months.

See what the coke/lucozade does, if that works then you know its the jelly babies.

Then after that period try them again and see if they work again.

It could be as simple as that without any other explanation.:confused:
 
Could well be, a bit of a shock been using Jelly Babies with great effect for over 20 years..

But will give the coke a go, as I can't abid luccozade, I'm shopping in the morning so shall pick some up then
 
Good idea. You can buy the small party cans usually with the mixers. They are 15 cho each can. Good luck
 
I hope things sort themselves out for you. As others have said it is worth experimenting, although my son gets the hump if I pinch one of his cans of Dr. Pepper!
 
My 1st thought would be to check your basal pattern.
This is just my own finding, but any more than 10 carbs for a hypo then there's a basal that needs a tweak.
 
Pumper_Sue said:
My 1st thought would be to check your basal pattern.
This is just my own finding, but any more than 10 carbs for a hypo then there's a basal that needs a tweak.
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I agree with Sue, could be the 'spring effect' and might need to reduce basal. I drink a small glass of fresh orange juice or a small carton of orange juice to treat a hypo ......has 15 cho and retest after 15 mins, works perfectly for me 🙂
 
Pumper_Sue said:
My 1st thought would be to check your basal pattern.
This is just my own finding, but any more than 10 carbs for a hypo then there's a basal that needs a tweak.
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If there is a pattern and its happening at the same time of day when the hypo is.

Otherwise it could just be the beast that is diabetes raising its head. Things change.

Sorry Sue but have to disagree with the more than 10 carbs then its a basal. Some people need more than 10 carbs.

There is the 15 rule ie 15 cho, wait 15 mins and test etc.

However once people have mastered diabetes then of course you can play around the hypo treatments.

If my daughter is high 3's then half a small can of coke or 2/3 of one is ok, depends whether I know why the hypo has occured. Anything under that and she needs a full 15 cho of quick acting. Anything under about 2.5 and she needs double that so two cans straight off normally.

Sorry, hate disagreeing with people 😛
 
Adrienne said:
Hate to say it but maybe the jelly babies have stopped working for you. Unfortunately this is the nature of the beast. Some people find that certain things stop working for no apparent reason. For example we can no longer use glucogel, glucotabs, hypofit etc.
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Never heard of that before so this is something new, surely glucose is glucose no matter if its in jelly babies or lucozade? Liquid glucose in the form of full sugar coke or locozade will hit the system faster than in a tablet form such as glucotabs or indeed jelly babies that there is no doubt, but having eaten a meal or snack previously can slow down the absorption of glucose and these things need to be considered also.
 
toby said:
Never heard of that before so this is something new, surely glucose is glucose no matter if its in jelly babies or lucozade? Liquid glucose in the form of full sugar coke or locozade will hit the system faster than in a tablet form such as glucotabs or indeed jelly babies that there is no doubt, but having eaten a meal or snack previously can slow down the absorption of glucose and these things need to be considered also.
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I agree 100% with you Toby.
I do wonder if it's just Adrienne's daughter though as she has had her pancreas removed. Would this make a dif as to how she absorbs food?

Personally for me it doesn't matter what the fast carb is. It works just the same for me.
 
toby said:
Never heard of that before so this is something new, surely glucose is glucose no matter if its in jelly babies or lucozade? Liquid glucose in the form of full sugar coke or locozade will hit the system faster than in a tablet form such as glucotabs or indeed jelly babies that there is no doubt, but having eaten a meal or snack previously can slow down the absorption of glucose and these things need to be considered also.
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Hiya Toby and Sue

Fraid its not just my daughter although that would be the more logical and best answer.

There are lots of children on the cwd email group that cannot use glucotabs or glucogel. There are few that can't use Glucojuice or Hypo fit as well.

They either just don't work quick enough (ie 45 minutes or more to take effect) or they do nothing.

It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense I agree with you, but there you have it, it is fact, my daughter is proof as are other 'normal' type 1 kiddies.

Very odd but that is D for you, sometimes there are no explanations. :confused:
 
Adrienne said:
Sorry Sue but have to disagree with the more than 10 carbs then its a basal. Some people need more than 10 carbs.

Sorry, hate disagreeing with people 😛
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Ah but I did say with me 😛
 
Please don't tell me I might have to stop using jelly babies as hypo treatment 😱 On the other hand, would that mean I could eat them whenever I want? In that case...😉
 
Northerner said:
Please don't tell me I might have to stop using jelly babies as hypo treatment 😱 On the other hand, would that mean I could eat them whenever I want? In that case...😉
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Hahahaha absolutely although I bet if they stopped working for hypos they would flipping well work for not hypos !!

My daughter can have glucotabs etc when she is not hypo and we do use those as a boost before PE sometimes but just not when hypo !
 
We've found that JBs do work for me, although if Im below 3ish, it's a coke job. Interestingly, coke combined with JB seems to have a better effect. The coke seems to help the JB through the system.🙂

Rob
 
Hi Ellie,

Alex used to have jelly babies or fruit juice for hypo's when first diagnosed. But it became clear that jelly babies stopped working (I am not sure they are recommended due to the gelling agent that slows down absorption). Then we found out that fruit juice has a longer profile and it was taking too long during the night to get back to within range. I think that some diabetics can keep taking the same treatments and get the same results - but others cant as their bodies change over time. I think this is also the case for 'hypo awareness' - that people go through 'phases' of having it and not having it.

We find the quickest by far is a can of coke - I think the bubbles help to get the glucose into the bloodstream quicker than anything else.🙂Bev
 
bev said:
Hi Ellie,

Alex used to have jelly babies or fruit juice for hypo's when first diagnosed. But it became clear that jelly babies stopped working (I am not sure they are recommended due to the gelling agent that slows down absorption). Then we found out that fruit juice has a longer profile and it was taking too long during the night to get back to within range. I think that some diabetics can keep taking the same treatments and get the same results - but others cant as their bodies change over time. I think this is also the case for 'hypo awareness' - that people go through 'phases' of having it and not having it.

We find the quickest by far is a can of coke - I think the bubbles help to get the glucose into the bloodstream quicker than anything else.🙂Bev
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People may find that funny but Bev is right, there is something about the bubbles, I read it somewhere once.

Rob - one friend uses glucotabs and lucozade sport. We all know that Lucozade sport isn't much good as a full on hypo treatment but for her 4 year old it works perfectly mixed with the glucotabs !
 
Must admit to never using coke or any other fizzy drink due to the resulting tooth rot from all the acid in them 😱

Rob - one friend uses glucotabs and lucozade sport. We all know that Lucozade sport isn't much good as a full on hypo treatment but for her 4 year old it works perfectly mixed with the glucotabs
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Yet funny enough lucozade sport just 1 mouthfull is enough to treat a hypo for me.
Please no comments about a big mouth 🙂
 
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I have always felt the need to chew on something when hypo and find drinks most unsatisfying on the few occasions I have tried them.
 
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