Total or net carbs or somewhere in between?

[Lilian]

Net Carbohydrate: 13.3g
Total Carbohydrate: 18.3g
Carbohydrates as Sugars: 11.4g
Carbohydrates as Polyols: 5.0g
Fibre: 5.7g

Can someone please tell me on what grams of carbohydrates I would bolus on this?

 

[Kaylz]

I would bolus for the total carbs although it doesn't work out for this from what I know net carbs are the total carbs minus the fibre content x

 

[Lilian]

That is what I understood Kaytz, but I cannot see how the maths works here. If total is 18 and fibre 7 it would come to less than 13. So I am completely confused.

 

[FergusC]

That is what I understood Kaytz, but I cannot see how the maths works here. If total is 18 and fibre 7 it would come to less than 13. So I am completely confused.

@Lillian you mis read the fibre!
Fibre is not 7 it is 5(.7) so 18-5 = 13.

 

[Amigo]

That is what I understood Kaytz, but I cannot see how the maths works here. If total is 18 and fibre 7 it would come to less than 13. So I am completely confused.

I get confused with this too. For example Lidl high protein rolls have 8.5 grams of carb per 100 gram and 12.4g of fibre. Does this mean the carb content is negligible?

 

[silentsquirrel]

It seems to be the polyols that have been subtracted from total to get net. Unless it is a USA label, the fibre is not included in the total carbs.

 

[Mark Parrott]

I get confused with this too. For example Lidl high protein rolls have 8.5 grams of carb per 100 gram and 12.4g of fibre. Does this mean the carb content is negligible?

No. In the UK, the fibre is already taken off the carbs. On US labels, you need to minus the fibre (or fiber as they say over there) from the carbs.

 

[Amigo]

No. In the UK, the fibre is already taken off the carbs. On US labels, you need to minus the fibre (or fiber as they say over there) from the carbs.

Yes thanks Mark. Good thing is the rolls are going to have a much quicker passage through with that level of fibre so very good in that regard! 😛

 

[Robin]

It seems to be the polyols that have been subtracted from total to get net. Unless it is a USA label, the fibre is not included in the total carbs.

That makes sense, the polyols will go through you without touching the sides, so don't need to be bolused for!

 

[Lilian]

Net Carbohydrate: 13.3g
Total Carbohydrate: 18.3g
Carbohydrates as Sugars: 11.4g
Carbohydrates as Polyols: 5.0g
Fibre: 5.7g

If the fibre is not counted and the polylols are not counted (totalling 10.7g) Take 10.7 away from total 18.3 leaves 7.6g but the net is 18.3g not 7.6g The total of 18.3g includes the sugars of 11.4g so take away the sugar portion and this leaves 6.9g. and 6.9 is not the polylols or the fibre. So how does 18.3g total carb become 13.3g net? This is what puzzles me.

 

[Radders]

Net Carbohydrate: 13.3g
Total Carbohydrate: 18.3g
Carbohydrates as Sugars: 11.4g
Carbohydrates as Polyols: 5.0g
Fibre: 5.7g

If the fibre is not counted and the polylols are not counted (totalling 10.7g) Take 10.7 away from total 18.3 leaves 7.6g but the net is 18.3g not 7.6g The total of 18.3g includes the sugars of 11.4g so take away the sugar portion and this leaves 6.9g. and 6.9 is not the polylols or the fibre. So how does 18.3g total carb become 13.3g net? This is what puzzles me.

It looks as if the total carbs doesn't include fibre and they are subtracting the polyols to get the net figure. Doesn't make sense to me either!

 

[silentsquirrel]

18.3 - 5.0 = 13.3

Ignore the fibre (unless you need to consider it for other reasons than carb counting). In the UK it is not included in the total carb figure, it has already been subtracted. So the 18.3 total does not include the fibre, you don't want to subtract it again! 🙂

 

[Martin Canty]

I like the US method of including (and stating) fiber.... That way I can easily see the fiber content & chose food with lots of fiber.

 

[Radders]

I like the US method of including (and stating) fiber.... That way I can easily see the fiber content & chose food with lots of fiber.

Fibre is generally given in the U.K., it's just listed separately and not included in total carbohydrate, so you can still choose high fibre items.

 

[trophywench]

So you can with UK labels Martin - just that the carbs (all the carbs regardless of whether they are 'sugars' or not) don't include X grams of fibre - same as they don't include the X grams of fat and protein. All of em are shown on the label per 100g/100ml weight of whatever. If the food is individual portions (a packet of biscuits eg) you get all that info per biscuit.

See - with US labels - I'd have to do maths immediately to remove the fibre from the carb, before I could even start to calculate my required bolus. Must get even more tedious being a US T1 at feeding time, than it is a UK one!

 

[Martin Canty]

It's probably what you get used to, never read a label before March 23rd 2015..... Used to drive me nuts grocery shopping with the Previous Mrs. Canty as she would scrutinize labels looking for any evidence of animal products despite me protesting that "surely they have not changed the ingredients in a week"

 

[mikeyB]

However it's all worked out, some labels still say per portion. Aye, right. What's a portion of jelly babies?

 

[Mark Parrott]

I hate it when they say per 1/4 of a packet or 1/6 of a pie. I've never eaten only 1/6 of a pie.