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You might find a cinnamon latte more enjoyable but do bear in mind that milk contains sugar (Lactose) so don't have too many lattes and don't be fooled by thinking a skinny latte is better because the sugars are water soluble not fat soluble, so if you remove the fat/cream from the milk, you end up with slightly more sugar in what is left, which is why many of us use cream in our coffee and buy whole milk and creamy natural yoghurt rather than low fat options.
 
rebrascora said:
You might find a cinnamon latte more enjoyable but do bear in mind that milk contains sugar (Lactose) so don't have too many lattes and don't be fooled by thinking a skinny latte is better because the sugars are water soluble not fat soluble, so if you remove the fat/cream from the milk, you end up with slightly more sugar in what is left, which is why many of us use cream in our coffee and buy whole milk and creamy natural yoghurt rather than low fat options.
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Good point. I changed from lattes to flat whites a while back but wanted to try the turmeric one. I've tried to like Americanos but don't really enjoy them.
I love cream in my coffee but most places don't seem to have cream. I've started having kefir instead of yogurt. I find it just as tasty.
 
I despair of the fact that lots of places use Elmlea instead of real cream, which of course is just another processed food. I like Kefir but I prefer the creamy thickness of Greek yoghurt.... not in coffee though 🙄 I have tried butter in it when I run out of cream, which is sometimes referred to as diabetics coffee apparently, but it is a poor substitute! I am not sure I can be persuaded to try turmeric in it. We have one member who sticks a spoon of chia seeds in his coffee to make a sort of coffee flavoured chia seed porridge! Each to their own. I like my chia seeds and psyllium husk stirred into a glass of water with a dash of balsamic and apple cider vinegar and maybe some left over juice from a jar of pickled beetroot. Not that I have weird tastes or anything...😉
 
We have a DolceGusto coffee machine and most of the coffee pods work out at less than 5g carb per cup if they are the milky ones. Cafe au Lait intenso being the lowest at 3.7g, Latte Machiato the most at 4.8g. We tend to the one pod ones Flat white and cafe au lait as being the most economical.
 
rebrascora said:
I despair of the fact that lots of places use Elmlea instead of real cream, which of course is just another processed food. I like Kefir but I prefer the creamy thickness of Greek yoghurt.... not in coffee though 🙄 I have tried butter in it when I run out of cream, which is sometimes referred to as diabetics coffee apparently, but it is a poor substitute! I am not sure I can be persuaded to try turmeric in it. We have one member who sticks a spoon of chia seeds in his coffee to make a sort of coffee flavoured chia seed porridge! Each to their own. I like my chia seeds and psyllium husk stirred into a glass of water with a dash of balsamic and apple cider vinegar and maybe some left over juice from a jar of pickled beetroot. Not that I have weird tastes or anything...😉
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You're not expecting, are you?! I'm wincing just at the thought of drinking that concoction! I've been reading about olive oil in coffee which is the latest thing, apparently.
 
Leadinglights said:
We have a DolceGusto coffee machine and most of the coffee pods work out at less than 5g carb per cup if they are the milky ones. Cafe au Lait intenso being the lowest at 3.7g, Latte Machiato the most at 4.8g. We tend to the one pod ones Flat white and cafe au lait as being the most economical.
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That's not bad, by the sound of it. I'm not very familiar with carb values.
 
Watson123 said:
Hello, all,
I've just joined after listening to Tom Watson's book 'Downsizing'. Very interesting. I don't have diabetes but my mum had Type 2 and my brother is pre-diabetic. I'm slightly overweight and have been heavier in the past. My brother and I both share a sweet tooth and struggle to keep it under control.
Neither of us are crazy about exercise but are making efforts to get more active. I'm very keen to start eating better and to reduce the amount of highly processed foods in my diet. I worry about my brother as I'm not sure he takes diabetes that seriously.
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Not heard of author or book, but 5 years ago wife was told she was prediabetic but was overweight at time, told her about Newcastle Diet & how weight loss, mainly visceral fat around organs can reverse condition.

Although she didn't do ND she did join local slimming group which focused on calorie reduction, cut long story short she went on to lose 5 stone & since then all bloods have been normal, so it does go show what can be achieved.
 
Watson123 said:
Good point. I changed from lattes to flat whites a while back but wanted to try the turmeric one. I've tried to like Americanos but don't really enjoy them.
I love cream in my coffee but most places don't seem to have cream. I've started having kefir instead of yogurt. I find it just as tasty.
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My go to in an americano.
(Irritating because I always drank "coffee", grind beans, pour water through, into a jug. But it seems if I ask for a "coffee" I get a choice of about twenty now!)
A dash of skimmed milk to cut the acidity, (again, bitter coffee seems to be favoured, it used to be the percolator style)
I'll take about 0.5g of carbs for skimmed milk,
full fat milk is the same, 0.5g in the splash, but it ruins the flavour for me.
(for a comparison, a cafe pod of milk is normally 15ml, so I use about 10ml just to take the edge off)

I'm with you on kefir, have you tried quark?
 
nonethewiser said:
Not heard of author or book, but 5 years ago wife was told she was prediabetic but was overweight at time, told her about Newcastle Diet & how weight loss, mainly visceral fat around organs can reverse condition.

Although she didn't do ND she did join local slimming group which focused on calorie reduction, cut long story short she went on to lose 5 stone & since then all bloods have been normal, so it does go show what can be achieved.
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That is great news! I know how hard it can be to lose weight and then to keep it off once you've lost it.
 
travellor said:
My go to in an americano.
(Irritating because I always drank "coffee", grind beans, pour water through, into a jug. But it seems if I ask for a "coffee" I get a choice of about twenty now!)
A dash of skimmed milk to cut the acidity, (again, bitter coffee seems to be favoured, it used to be the percolator style)
I'll take about 0.5g of carbs for skimmed milk,
full fat milk is the same, 0.5g in the splash, but it ruins the flavour for me.
(for a comparison, a cafe pod of milk is normally 15ml, so I use about 10ml just to take the edge off)

I'm with you on kefir, have you tried quark?
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I have tried Quark but I wasn't keen on it. Well done on reversing it, by the way!
 
Looks like Tom Watson has written a few books.
I remember his first one, Downsizing. As a the Deputy Labour leader, he used the media attention to explain how he lost weight and reversed his type 2. And plug his book. His before and after pictures were impressive. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45495384

(His books are available from other book sellers. As much as I dislike Amazon's tax paying policy, they provide an easy reference when it comes to books.)
 
Leadinglights said:
Have you tried the Kvarg deserts, they are quark but with flavours like raspberry, strawberry, vanilla and white chocolate, low carb low fat.
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I don't remember seeing any desserts but I tried a chocolate bar a few months ago - I really didn't like it - it had a squidgy consistency.
 
Welcome to the forum @Watson123

I absolutely agree with what you were saying about each person having to find their own way through the maze of options.

Hope you can find a system that works for you - and not an 'all or nothing' splurge that then burns you out as it seems to have before?

Good luck! And keep us posted with how you are getting on 🙂
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Welcome to the forum @Watson123

I absolutely agree with what you were saying about each person having to find their own way through the maze of options.

Hope you can find a system that works for you - and not an 'all or nothing' splurge that then burns you out as it seems to have before?

Good luck! And keep us posted with how you are getting on 🙂
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Thanks, Mike. Concentrating initially on cooking from scratch as I've got quite lazy regarding cooking in the last couple of years.
 
Watson123 said:
Meant to add, re exercise, I tried the gym again last year. Had a three-month membership. I quite enjoy it but find the changing, driving there and back etc a bit of a faff so will be walking more. Seven thousand steps sounds much less daunting than ten thousand.
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I started with 6,000. I've found I have to walk further to do them now, and my time for a mile has dropped about 10%
 
CatsFive said:
I started with 6,000. I've found I have to walk further to do them now, and my time for a mile has dropped about 10%
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You time yourself as well? I usually start off at a good pace but slow down after a bit.
 
Watson123 said:
You time yourself as well? I usually start off at a good pace but slow down after a bit.
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If I turn on the tracker software on my phone, or Google fit, they do. One of my walks is up a forestry track then up to a trig point, can do that without stopping now though a very section is very steep. My steps got much shorter but the rhythm usually stays.


If you slow down because you have to, go a little slower at first.
 
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