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Timesulin - dose timing memory for pens

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can you add other pens - I vote for NovoPen 3 or 4!!!!
susanmoolman said:
Hey guys -

I am @susanmoolman on Twitter (thanks for the mention, teapot 8910) and just picked up on this thread. Thanks to Mike for bringing word of Timesulin here. 🙂

To answer your questions, Timesulin will be available for sale from mid November 2011 via our website (www.timesulin.com) and we are already in talks with distributors across the UK, Sweden, Germany and South Africa as well as in China.

The response has been overwhelming from nurses, doctors and people living with diabetes alike. Timesulin offers a simple, affordable solution to ease daily anxiety for people who have become so used to taking a number of shots a day.

I agree with the fact that adding additional data, like memory functions, dosing information and alarms is useful for some with diabetes. What our research has shown, though, is that what people really need is just to make their lives a little easier each and every single day.

Additionally, some inside information for diabetes-support - we have carefully looked at how people interact with technology and time and time again we find that the more complicated a product becomes, the more features it has, the less usable it becomes. Our idea is to keep it so simple that it requires no change in routine.

If you'd like to receive direct information as soon as the product becomes available, please sign up to be alerted here: http://timesulin.com/contact-us. (We promise not to spam you!) and follow Timesulin on Twitter (@timesulin) and Facebook (/timesulin)

Please keep spreading the word - and feel free to email / tweet me if you have any questions.
Susan
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Memory help, yes please! Although half the time I don't put the lid back on, so probably not gonna work for me, but bring it on, I hope it's not too cost prohibitive, and helps a lot of folk 🙂
 
Timesulin costs/other pens

I'd much prefer a Novopen version rather than having to change over to Flexpens - it seems a shame to throw away the whole thing just to get a full cartridge.

The cost does seem a bit of a discouragement too - although I'll buy them anyway despite the drawbacks. Forgetting if I've had my fix is the biggest problem I have. This way I can stay on the insulin brand I know and understand.

The reason for the high initial cost is presumably that there's no ongoing sale of consumables to support giving them away like meters or pens.

Possible ways of getting the cost down might include:
sponsored branding from the drug companies for each of the pen types
licensing the technology(I presume your patents are good)
persuading NICE that they are so essential for forgetful bozos like me to improve our control that they should be available on prescription​

I wish you every success

Simon
 
Hi all,
Never joined this forum, but have been 'lurking' since its inception. I feel though that it's now time to join and add my 'twopenneth' as it were.
There is some very good pitching going on here, but the closing will be extremely difficult due to the price being prohibitive for what is essentially a digital clock on a stick. I'll do my best Dragon impression and say that "I'm out".
I'll now go and introduce myself properly on the newbies section, sorry for giving my opinion first.
 
I think it's a great idea, lost count of how many times I injected......or did I? :D.....not needed now as I have a pump though, if I were still on MDI I would definitely use these!
 
Gone on sale today Are they really ?32?
 
spomeroy said:
I'd much prefer a Novopen version rather than having to change over to Flexpens - it seems a shame to throw away the whole thing just to get a full cartridge.

The cost does seem a bit of a discouragement too - although I'll buy them anyway despite the drawbacks. Forgetting if I've had my fix is the biggest problem I have. This way I can stay on the insulin brand I know and understand.

The reason for the high initial cost is presumably that there's no ongoing sale of consumables to support giving them away like meters or pens.

Possible ways of getting the cost down might include:
sponsored branding from the drug companies for each of the pen types
licensing the technology(I presume your patents are good)
persuading NICE that they are so essential for forgetful bozos like me to improve our control that they should be available on prescription​

I wish you every success

Simon
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Thank you for the words of support, Simon! We are considering all of the options you are addressing, but what we're learning is that things take much longer for bigger corporations than it does for us small ones. (We tend to move at a bit of a quicker pace than the others!)

Will keep you posted as we progress.
 
Steff said:
Gone on sale today Are they really ?32?
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Hey Steff -

Yep, they are. Well, actually, they're ?25, but then VAT adds another chunk on top. Considering the many versions of the cap we've gone through, the many, many hours of top engineers required to design something that is simple enough for everyone to use - and understand without having to study an instruction manual - yet work like clockwork without any hiccups...it all adds up.

Some aspects to consider:
* We've used antibacterial plastic to ensure safety
* The battery on each cap will last for more than a year with continuous use - as soon as you replace your pen, pop your Timesulin cap on the new pen
* Peace of mind...never having to worry again!

I hope you guys will continue to support and discuss Timesulin - we're also on Facebook, Twitter and the Timesulin blog.

xxx
 
I can understand the basic cost of ?25, but why VAT?!? They are products designed soley for use by people with long term medical conditions.

Surely you (company that makes Timesulin) can argue with HMRC that people with diabetes should NOT have to pay VAT if they chose to buy and use this product, because they have had problems caused by forgetting / omitting doses / overdosing?
 
susanmoolman said:
Hey Steff -

Yep, they are. Well, actually, they're ?25, but then VAT adds another chunk on top. Considering the many versions of the cap we've gone through, the many, many hours of top engineers required to design something that is simple enough for everyone to use - and understand without having to study an instruction manual - yet work like clockwork without any hiccups...it all adds up.

Some aspects to consider:
* We've used antibacterial plastic to ensure safety
* The battery on each cap will last for more than a year with continuous use - as soon as you replace your pen, pop your Timesulin cap on the new pen
* Peace of mind...never having to worry again!

I hope you guys will continue to support and discuss Timesulin - we're also on Facebook, Twitter and the Timesulin blog.

xxx
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Hay Susan
Thanks for gettin back,I was interested back when you first introduced this as I was on Victoza and forget many times to inject but now I'm off meds so don't need it but if I ever have to go back on then I will bare this in mind
 
susanmoolman said:
Hey Steff -

Yep, they are. Well, actually, they're ?25, but then VAT adds another chunk on top. Considering the many versions of the cap we've gone through, the many, many hours of top engineers required to design something that is simple enough for everyone to use - and understand without having to study an instruction manual - yet work like clockwork without any hiccups...it all adds up.

Some aspects to consider:
* We've used antibacterial plastic to ensure safety
* The battery on each cap will last for more than a year with continuous use - as soon as you replace your pen, pop your Timesulin cap on the new pen
* Peace of mind...never having to worry again!

I hope you guys will continue to support and discuss Timesulin - we're also on Facebook, Twitter and the Timesulin blog.

xxx
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......It's a great idea but very pricey for such a simple accessory....I wonder if they would be available on prescription?....especially for diabetics with memory problems
 
Copepod said:
I can understand the basic cost of ?25, but why VAT?!? They are products designed soley for use by people with long term medical conditions.

Surely you (company that makes Timesulin) can argue with HMRC that people with diabetes should NOT have to pay VAT if they chose to buy and use this product, because they have had problems caused by forgetting / omitting doses / overdosing?
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I thought we diabolics didn't have to pay the VAT for medical gubbins? Isn't there a form for that sort of thing?
 
I've just checked Timesulin website http://timesulin.com/webshop - price quoted is 32 Euros, not ?32, or ?25 (with no mention of VAT) plus ?1.93 for postage & packing or free postage & packing for 2 or more caps.

So, I think Patients Pending Ltd company needs to investigate VAT law in UK, if UK is truly a target market. VAT probably needs to be paid on postage & packing, but not on product itself. There's a drop down box on top right of webpage to select currency: GBP or EUR, so they have thought of that issue.
 
This sounds like a fantastic idea!!! I have a real fear of getting dementia or something when I am older and killing myself accidentally because I'll forget that I've already done an injection or something. It sounds morbid but I am honestly very scared that will happen to me. So this device sounds great! And I'm hoping by the time I'm elderly there'll be other things on the market too which will help Diabetic people with memory problems 🙂
 
Subtotal: ?25.00
Shipping and handling: ?1.95
Subtotal excluding taxes:?26.95
VAT: ?5.39
Order total: ?32.34

?5.39 VAT something is wrong there very wrong!
 
Questions about VAT

Hey Guys,

Many thanks for all the interesting comments. It's the first day we have the shop open so working through all the quirks that we are finding as more and more people come on to order.

Firstly - oh how I wish we could avoid charging VAT on this, and how we have tried, but no luck with HMRC. Because it is an accessory to a medical device standard VAT applies. We have checked this with both our accountants AND HMRC, but if anybody can prove otherwise I would love it.

In terms of currency - it's ?25. When you first come to the site it shows EURO, just switch on the top right and you should be good to go.

I have been using the product for a few months now while we've been testing and developing and, due to my excitement at having a Timesulin solution every time I injected, it took a while before I actually forgot again. Boy, I sure was glad to have Timesulin around, though. Nothing worse than the hypo that comes from an accidental double dose. Timesulin may not be for everybody, but if you've ever wondered, hopefully you'll agree that it's worth less than ?2.50 a month to never worry about missing or double dosing again.

All comments and feedback are welcomed.
/John- Timesulin CEO and Type 1 for 26 years
 
Lauren said:
This sounds like a fantastic idea!!! I have a real fear of getting dementia or something when I am older and killing myself accidentally because I'll forget that I've already done an injection or something. It sounds morbid but I am honestly very scared that will happen to me. So this device sounds great! And I'm hoping by the time I'm elderly there'll be other things on the market too which will help Diabetic people with memory problems 🙂
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Hey Lauren - we're finding that this device is most handy for those of us who are still young and constantly on the go. It's aimed mostly at those times where you sit down at the dinner table, or get into bed, and go...Uh oh...Did I remember to take my shot, or didn't I? Because it's such a habit - four shots a day over many years...even the smartest among us will forget!

But the nice thing about Timesulin is that it is easy enough for anyone to use - young or old. Because you don't need any technical skill to program it. It just works.
 
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