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"The Hospital" CH4 Prog on Diabetes Mon 16th August 9pm

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There will be a blog written. I saw a lot of myself in some of those kids...but at the same time I feel there was too much stereotyping and they concentrated way too much on the negative.

The comment by that girl at the end really got to me.."Bovvered". I could have punched her in the face if she'd actually been in the room with me. Funny thing is...I was like her once :(
 
Oh my god that was more like a horror than anything else 😱
 
It's a flipping long time since I saw anything so depressing :(

Great, we're all not taking it seriously & all our complications are our own fault!

Did anyone spot any serious effort being put into understanding & addressing why the teenagers weren't taking it seriously, apart from writing it off as 'they don't want to appear different'?? Ok that applied to a couple they interviewed, but what about not understanding the point of blood tests, ie education? Depression?

Can only conclude I was flipping lucky to have a nurse for a mum... really peed off at how totally biassed this was - feel like everyone will look at me now & say I've retinopathy because i wasn't 'bovvered', they won't bother to understand the reality of 30+yrs diabetes on old control methods & 2 pregs!!! 😡

Probably shouldn't have watched this...
 
Lewy said:
Oh my god that was more like a horror than anything else 😱
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I remember when I was like that young girl (the one who had the party). Its things like the amputation that frightened me into doing something about it. The problem is though that the doctor is quite right...if you don't look after yourself, you'll more than likely end up seriously ill.

That boy at the start got me. walking out of hospital after being admitted the previous night with DKA, cigarette hanging out of his mouth. I'm disgusted.
 
well what did you all think? i was mortified at the attitude of that fran, if i got HI on my meter id be mortified,she didnt seem to care, in the next clip you saw her out drinking and smoking her mum wernt that bothered either.That poor bloke richard who sat in his room waiting on appointments and people just not turning up grrr,i weas crying watching what kevin had to go through on diyalisis, a very good show i thought would certainly strike fear into me if i was poorly controlled.
 
Oh, and as for that girl's mum - 'she's always looked after it herself' - er, evidently not?!!! Talk about abrogating your parental responsibility!!! 😡

'I can't physically make her do it' - how about 'you live in my house, you do your tests & jabs or I cut your allowance' etc?? Mind you, this is the parent happily watching her 16yr old daughter get wasted... 'nuff said... 😡
 
Twitchy said:
Oh, and as for that girl's mum - 'she's always looked after it herself' - er, evidently not?!!! Talk about abrogating your parental responsibility!!! 😡

'I can't physically make her do it' - how about 'you live in my house, you do your tests & jabs or I cut your allowance' etc?? Mind you, this is the parent happily watching her 16yr old daughter get wasted... 'nuff said... 😡
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yup at 15 when at the start of the show shes on the archers and the fags, while mum just does nothing, she will regret all this in later life like that mothere said it is not effecting her now so she just dont care. Sad that is takes death or serious complications for some to wake up and take it serious
 
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yup at 15 when at the start of the show shes on the archers and the fags, while mum just does nothing, she will regret all this in later life like that mothere said it is not effecting her now so she just dont care. Sad that is takes death or serious complications for some to wake up and take it serious
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do you know what makes me angry? The fact that these kids will end up with complications because of what they've done to themselves and so many others, myself included, have worked hard at stopping them and STILL ended up with them. 😡
 
Interesting program but i think they focused on the negatives too much and also didnt really explain the difference between type one and type two clearly enough!

That guy at the begining shocked me...DKA and high blood sugars in the morning discharging himself and sparking up a cigerette on the way out!!!! 😡

And as for that party girl....could have given her a slap or two GRRR
 
I think it was the 'final statement' from the Dr that got me the most, talking about the undertone of 'self-inflicted' and then comparing it to society's changing attitudes to smoking and drinking. With programmes like this forming the basis of public education about diabetes, that's certainly where we're heading 😡

No example of what good control can achieve, and the achievements of diabetics young and old. Do you think there will ever be a programme about that?
 
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Shocked. What more can I say? A totally unbalanced view of diabetes, how far will this go to encourage misunderstadning and stereotyping? It has to be said though, that it will probably encourage more debate and more people to ask questions, lets just hope they get the right answers. As for me, I've had diabetes for 8 months and I this program has totally panicked me into taking more action and to increase my control, I'm already quite tight with my control, but will be finidng more ways to make it better but with as little disruption to me as possible. Its been hard over the past few months, both at work and at home. At times diabetes can be a lonely health issue to deal with, upsetting and shocking. With the right support and access to information then it can be alot easier to deal with, especially the people on here!
 
Northerner said:
I think it was the 'final statement' from the Dr that got me the most, talking about the undertone of 'self-inflicted' and then comparing it to society's changing attitudes to smoking and drinking. With programmes like this forming the basis of public education about diabetes, that's certainly where we're heading 😡

No example of what good control can achieve, and the achievements of diabetics young and old. Do you think there will ever be a programme about that?
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very doubtful

I think we should make our own 😎
 
All in all I think they did a good job with that. Sure there are a few bits I would have rephrased slightly maybe but no major issues with it at all. I think it fitted in well with the context of the whole series, it did what it set out to do. It maybe would have been nice if they'd followed one person who did test and inject regularly to show the alternative but that's only a minor point.
I did find some of the young people they followed frustrating, although I do understand the reasons behind their behaviour, just frustrating that there seems no way to help them change their attitude. One look at that foot will be enough to scare me for sometime, there were several texts exchanged between me and my D friends at that point!
The message that came through strongest for me though was frustration on behalf of the medical staff, knowing that their help (and nhs resources) is just ignored and what that may well lead to must be destroying. It's definately increased my empathy for them, and I understand the shock of some when I get very involved in everything! Oh, and I want that doctor to be my doctor!
 
I haven't seen this yet but the Children with Diabetes list is in uproar and its all over facebook as you can imagine.

Firstly you have to remember where this was set these are the stereotypical people from there that you see in the news over the last few years about this place. I used to live there for a short while and loads of people are moving out. I know the hospital and it has always had a bad name generally, no idea about the diabetic team as was never under them and wouldn't want to be due to the reputation of the hospital as a whole.

Obviously this is a sweeping statement and I mean no malice to anyone who lives in that area. Some parts are lovely, you just have to hunt for them now. 🙂
 
Seemed like a wasted opportunity to me. Lots of 'self inflicted' 'all their own fault' 'what do you expect when you carry on like this' and not one example of someone wrestling with it to show people how hard it can be, but that it can be done.

That toe surgery though... Eeeeeeeeeeeew!
 
The funny thing is, before that 'self-inflicted' comment I felt quite sympathetic to the consultant...he seemed fairly reasonable & pragmatic... after it I nearly ended up throwing the remote through the TV - it's a heck of a sweeping statement to make (I know, I know, he's the expert, he told us) :(

Could they not have put just one case of a teenager taking their diabetes seriously?? How unfair on those who are, who will now go back to school, college etc facing attitudes set in train by this programme!!

As for the antenatal bit, just don't get me started - don't think the keyboard can take it!!!! 😡😱

(Adrienne - I was starting to wonder about Croydon, lol!!)
 
aymes said:
All in all I think they did a good job with that. Sure there are a few bits I would have rephrased slightly maybe but no major issues with it at all. I think it fitted in well with the context of the whole series, it did what it set out to do. It maybe would have been nice if they'd followed one person who did test and inject regularly to show the alternative but that's only a minor point.
I did find some of the young people they followed frustrating, although I do understand the reasons behind their behaviour, just frustrating that there seems no way to help them change their attitude. One look at that foot will be enough to scare me for sometime, there were several texts exchanged between me and my D friends at that point!
The message that came through strongest for me though was frustration on behalf of the medical staff, knowing that their help (and nhs resources) is just ignored and what that may well lead to must be destroying. It's definately increased my empathy for them, and I understand the shock of some when I get very involved in everything! Oh, and I want that doctor to be my doctor!
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Agreed totally.The foot part shocked me to the core.

Dan i agree that has certainly shown me that my control needs to be tighhter then ever,
 
I agree it focused on the negative but i suppose it was showing us how some young people don't take their D seriously but that Fran could have been my own daughter and the thought of her behaving like that if she ever had diabetes would be gut wrenching. I had to look away at the surgery scenes 😱 I felt quite depressed after that and even more determined to control my D
 
Twitchy said:
The funny thing is, before that 'self-inflicted' comment I felt quite sympathetic to the consultant...he seemed fairly reasonable & pragmatic... after it I nearly ended up throwing the remote through the TV - it's a heck of a sweeping statement to make (I know, I know, he's the expert, he told us) :(

Could they not have put just one case of a teenager taking their diabetes seriously?? How unfair on those who are, who will now go back to school, college etc facing attitudes set in train by this programme!!
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Agree with you totally Twitchy. It must be soul destrying for the doctor to sit there wanting to help but having no real power to make them take care of themsleves, attend clinic etc. But his statement at the end was uncalled for about the obesity - it had NOTHING to do with most of the cases in the programme as they weren't obese! He may know more than patients who don't understand or care about their diabetes, but I doubt he know more than someone who does.

The young drunk girl clearly didn't get any parental support either, and clearly wasn't aware of the consequences of bad - and benefits of good - control. :(
 
Twitchy said:
The funny thing is, before that 'self-inflicted' comment I felt quite sympathetic to the consultant...he seemed fairly reasonable & pragmatic... after it I nearly ended up throwing the remote through the TV - it's a heck of a sweeping statement to make (I know, I know, he's the expert, he told us) :(

That infuriated me! 😱 He was slightly annoying me talking about how people are fat and it's self inflicted, why can't they eat right etc when he himself was no slim jim. Hmmmmm....

It does scare me for Rose and i did just want to shake the parents of these teenagers.
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