Testing BS levels when eating fruit

[Sharpe]

Dave...
Firstly Wally IMO has always indicated in his posts that it is in his opinion ....all posts on the forum are in someones personal opinion that is why this is a forum not an information web site.
On this forum discussions are not edited /deleted by the admin and mods unless they are seen as offensive or a direct attack, as everyones opinion is regarded as valid and promotes discussion.

secondly you say the correct way to test is 1hr-2hrs after meals ...isnt that what wally has said ?

thirdly your refer to comments made on another forum which is mighty confusing as we are seeing it out of context.
This now seems to take your thread into the personal attack definition. Insinuating that Wally is not educated in diabetes or knows what is is to be diabetic is a personal attack as how you do know whether he is or not ?
am64

Firstly:
Wally has in this thread posted that the way to test after eating fruit is in this bizzare fashion, just eating, test,eating, test etc.....he uses that to illustrate the way to do it. It is plain and simple wrong. However you look at it anybody reading here would look at that and think it was right. I didn't think this website would condone mis-information ?

Secondly:
He has only said that after continually saying that there is NO correct way to test. This again is only after repeated attempts to get him to see the error of his ways. Finally admitting that there actually IS a correct way to test, as I stated.

Thirdly:
If you wish to see what is on other forum's google Wallycorker. You will soon see what was said in those places.

There is no personal attack here. Anybody, and I care not who they are, who gives out information, whether as fact or as opinion to other diabetics has a responsibility to make sure that what they say is correct. Is accurate. Is sensible. What has been said by Wally is patently not in any of those categories.

If I posted here that all a diabetic needs to do to get good control is drink 6 litres of water a day and add 50g salt to it, would that be allowed here ! It is dangerous and misleading information. Surely that would be deleted ??

So I do not see why me criticising something that is wrong can be considered a personal attack ?? That seems a very sensitive attitude to take. Is the protectionism because it is a senior member who is being criticised ? If it is wrong it should make not one iota of difference.

It is an attack on mis-information, nothing more. Yes, I have read his posts in other areas where he has also been criticised for his weird ways. It seems it is OK on this forum to spread such things over the net then ?? I find that weird too.

This might be a chat site, it surely was never meant to encourage odd ideas, as with this one about Wally's fruit testing which is what the whole thread is about surely !

I am one who believes in free speech, I champion that. However that has to be tempered with a responsibility to make sure what you say is right, always right, not just something that will prove absolutely nothing !

Everybody seems to be missing the point here: This is about testing 1 hr after eating fruit, then another hr after ad infinitum and eating in between. Without any effect on Bg levels apparently. As HelenM stated maybe he has a defect in his metabolism or something. Very odd.

It is NOT about what is the normal 1 and 2 hr testing, let's make that clear.

There is also no bullying, a difference of opinion maybe. I thought we were all adults here and can take a bit of stick if it is warranted ?


As far as what Wally does, that is up to him. I personally think it is daft. I know other's think the same. It's make your mind up time. Fact or fiction ?

Dave

 

[Steff]

Dave I dont think protectism comes into this as i think we are fully aware i doubt that wallycorker needs protecting of any kind , BUT when someone comes in and starts picking apart a way of controlling someones diabetes which is PERSONAL to them then it becomes abit more like an attack .

 

[am64]

Firstly:
Wally has in this thread posted that the way to test after eating fruit is in this bizzare fashion, just eating, test,eating, test etc.....he uses that to illustrate the way to do it. It is plain and simple wrong. However you look at it anybody reading here would look at that and think it was right. I didn't think this website would condone mis-information ?

Secondly:
He has only said that after continually saying that there is NO correct way to test. This again is only after repeated attempts to get him to see the error of his ways. Finally admitting that there actually IS a correct way to test, as I stated.

Thirdly:
If you wish to see what is on other forum's google Wallycorker. You will soon see what was said in those places.

There is no personal attack here. Anybody, and I care not who they are, who gives out information, whether as fact or as opinion to other diabetics has a responsibility to make sure that what they say is correct. Is accurate. Is sensible. What has been said by Wally is patently not in any of those categories.

If I posted here that all a diabetic needs to do to get good control is drink 6 litres of water a day and add 50g salt to it, would that be allowed here ! It is dangerous and misleading information. Surely that would be deleted ??

So I do not see why me criticising something that is wrong can be considered a personal attack ?? That seems a very sensitive attitude to take. Is the protectionism because it is a senior member who is being criticised ? If it is wrong it should make not one iota of difference.

It is an attack on mis-information, nothing more. Yes, I have read his posts in other areas where he has also been criticised for his weird ways. It seems it is OK on this forum to spread such things over the net then ?? I find that weird too.

This might be a chat site, it surely was never meant to encourage odd ideas, as with this one about Wally's fruit testing which is what the whole thread is about surely !

I am one who believes in free speech, I champion that. However that has to be tempered with a responsibility to make sure what you say is right, always right, not just something that will prove absolutely nothing !


As far as what Wally does, that is up to him. I personally think it is daft. I know other's think the same. It's make your mind up time. Fact or fiction ?

Dave

I am very confused what your problem with wallys posts has been?
...he originally explained how he tested fruit....test, eat, test ,eat ...isnt that what we all do ? all day long until we are confident in our abilities ?

Wally says test after an 1 hour...you say test after 1-2 hrs same difference really ?

regarding my post is only because wally is a senior member is offensive as it insinuates that I am biased away from newbies like yourself ... THIS IS NOT A CLUB !!! this is a support forum. You become a senior member after 100 posts not many really ?

you say that wallys ideas are odd ? daft and incorrect. they are just ideas his ideas ....who is ever right ?? my GP a very well qualified and educated man for example says i should only test every 2 weeks ...is that right ??

 

[Sharpe]

Dave I dont think protectism comes into this as i think we are fully aware i doubt that wallycorker needs protecting of any kind , BUT when someone comes in and starts picking apart a way of controlling someones diabetes which is PERSONAL to them then it becomes abit more like an attack .

I am sorry Steff.
This is just plain wrong. You are trying to defend the indefensible. It is not about what is personal it is how it is perceived by new diabetics who either come here or read this on the net.

I am a long term experienced diabetic and I was fed wrong information for years before I found what is good for me. I wouldn't have got where I am listening to someone spouting daft ideas about the fruit and testing such as portrayed here.

Dave

 

[Steff]

I am sorry Steff.
This is just plain wrong. You are trying to defend the indefensible. It is not about what is personal it is how it is perceived by new diabetics who either come here or read this on the net.

I am a long term experienced diabetic and I was fed wrong information for years before I found what is good for me. I wouldn't have got where I am listening to someone spouting daft ideas about the fruit and testing such as portrayed here.

Dave

You are entitled to think how you do and i am entitled to think how i do, either way i think this thread should go back to how it was originally and stop going over the same thing over and over again.

 

[Northerner]

This is becoming a circular argument. All sides have made their points, so I see no benefit in prolonging it.