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Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully help!
For one of my classes this semester we chose a health condition and a target group to create a presentation/information for. Diabetes is a condition close to me (my partner and mum both suffering different types). As a result in acutely aware of all the misconceptions around the condition.
My question for you all is what are the misconceptions you receive most from others, especially loved ones?
(I'm planning on doing little info packet type things for those close to people who are newly diagnosed to help beat the massive amounts of stigma and misinformation around the condition and personal anecdotes will really help 🙂. They will all be anonymous if used, I'll only be putting what type the commenter has if it's relevant. I will also ask permission directly if I'm going to use your comment!)
Thanks again for reading and if you reply for helping me out!
Leanna
 
I think the major gripe I have with my husband, is that he thinks it's a pure mathematical equation, eg, carb count + insulin dose = perfect control, and can't understand when it doesn't always work out like that. I've got him trained that exercise can make me go low, so he's Ok on walks etc, but if he catches me topping up insulin, or eating a jelly baby at other times, there's a genuine incomprehension of why I hadn't managed to calculate accurately.

Another one is non diabetics who think they know more about it than I do. I went to a great deal of trouble to explain to a cousin I was lunching with, that it was perfectly OK for me to have a biscuit or chocolate occasionally, provided I'd bolused for it correctly, and she replied 'well that's what you've convinced yourself, anyway'
 
Another one is non diabetics who think they know more about it than I do. I went to a great deal of trouble to explain to a cousin I was lunching with, that it was perfectly OK for me to have a biscuit or chocolate occasionally, provided I'd bolused for it correctly, and she replied 'well that's what you've convinced yourself, anyway'

Robin, did you not want to throw your biscuit at her after that smug reply? :confused:
This is probably my biggest gripe too, people are often well meaning, but not particularly knowledgable.
Often thinking that diabetes is only related to sugar, rather than carbs in general. I've been asked several times as I'm eating a treat (normally a Cadbury Wispa - my weakness) if I should be eating that... Way to ruin my once in a while treat!

I've mentioned this somewhere else on this forum recently, but the other thing that really gets my goat is people telling me they know someone else with diabetes who has lost a limb/kidney/eye sight etc etc. I already know the complications associated with this condition, I don't need to bear horror stories!
 
I've mentioned this somewhere else on this forum recently, but the other thing that really gets my goat is people telling me they know someone else with diabetes who has lost a limb/kidney/eye sight etc etc. I already know the complications associated with this condition, I don't need to bear horror stories!

This! I'm young, newly diagnosed and possibly LADA not T2. The amount of people that tell you that they know someone that's had amputations, gone blind etc is unbelievable

I hate when you're having a rare treat of say, chocolate and somebody says "that's probably why you're diabetic" but don't understand that eating pasta/high carbs is just as bad

"Oh you're T2? At least it isn't the BAD kind..."
 
I usually get, from one family member, "it's your own fault - you ate too much sugar as a youngster". Hello? Born in 1943, war on, sugar rationed until I was at least 8 years old. A former partner after seeing me suffering from what turned out to be the onset of a hypo turned round and said - 'Oh, have a quick coma and get over it! I ask you. It is only slightly karma that a few years later, this person was diagnosed as type 1. What I find most disconcerting here is that my doctor, as lovely and kind a man as he is, knows **** all about diabetes as was evidenced in past posts I made when he withdrew my Novorapid and asked me to rely on Lantus alone. This afternoon I learned that a friend who lives here too in Spain lost his nephew, aged 40 to a diabetes related problem, post-mortem is tomorrow. "I didn't realise that it was such a serious illness", he said, him and a few million others.
 
Goodness, where to start? 😱 Not all of these have been said directly to me, but have put in an appearance here in the forum over the years:

  • Type 1? Oh that's the bad kind! 😱 - no type of diabetes is great, they all have their different challenges
  • Type 2? Ah, that's the 'mild' diabetes...- see above!
  • Type 1 child? 'Will he grow out of it?' - some people can't believe that Type 1 children grow up into being Type 1 adults
  • Type 1 adult? 'You don't look diabetic'. - you're not fat
  • Type 2 adult? 'You don't look diabetic'. - you're not fat, neither are at least 20% of Type 2s at diagnosis
  • Type 2? That's because you don't exercise enough - many people have other health problems that prevent them from being the next Steve Redgrave. Type 2 has a strong genetic component, evident from the fact that about 8% of the population have it, yet about 60% of the population are overweight or obese. Weight is a strong factor, but certainly not the only one.
  • Type 1? 'Ooh, I could never inject!' - the misconception that injections are the hardest thing about insulin-dependent diabetes, they aren't, it's trying to match the dose to the food, taking into account a myriad factors (not just carb content) that can affect it.
  • Type 2? 'Oh you can cure that by losing weight!' - no, you can manage it, possibly but not always - there is no cure (yet)
  • Type 1? 'He's got low blood sugar! Quick! Give him some insulin!' - don't! Insulin may kill him, he needs sugar to treat a low!
  • Type1/2/x 'Should you eat that?' - people have no idea about food and what is actually healthy. Fruit juice and smoothies are NOT healthy. White bread is worse than table sugar :(
There's a good 'Diabetes Etiquette Card' that has a few of the top things NOT to say/do to a person with diabetes:

https://www.accu-chek.com/documents/resource-center/etiquetteonepage.pdf

I'm sure I could think of many more! 🙂 Good luck with your presentation! 🙂 It would be great if you could share it with us, and the reactions to it, when you have done it 🙂
 
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Ah yes the 'I couldn't never inject myself' comment. This also irritates me! I don't do it for fun! 🙄
 
I hate the 'oh everyone has type2 diabetes these days, you don't want to worry about it!'....usually followed by them adding, 'well I don't!'. Eek! 😱
 
From another diabetic, why do you test when out because they rarely test at all they think all types 2's should test rarely or just wait for the hba1c test results, even though they have signs of diabetic complications. :(
 
I hate the you got diabetes cause you ate too many sweets erm no I actually got it due to pcos also most foods have some sort of sugar it's not a case of no more cakes & sweets I am allowed everything in moderation
 
I've had the "she will grow out of it, won't she?" comment a few times (if only!), and just lately we seem to be finding loads of people who think it's perfectly ok for daughter to eat pizza and chips (loads of carbs in that!) but if she eats one single biscuit she will probably drop dead, when I try to explain that's not how it works and she can pretty much eat anything as long as she matches it with the correct dose of insulin, they look at me as if I'm completely mad and don't know how to look after my own child. My daughter gets fed up with people asking her why she can't eat sweets.

We have had a couple of incidents at school with know-it-all teachers who think they know better. French teacher was doing a food tasting session so I went into school to ask her what they would be eating so I could help daughter get a rough idea of what the carb count would be. Teacher kept saying it's ok, i'll only give her the cheese. No, said I, she can have the pastries too, we just need an idea of what they are and how many so that she knows how much insulin to give herself, but as soon as I mentioned the word "insulin" all I got was "oh no no, can't have that, I'll make sure her class only get the cheese." I had to give up in the end as the woman just wasn't listening, so daughter's class ended up with bread and cheese (and not much bread at that) and the other class got all the yummy pains au chocolat etc. Which is exactly what we DON'T want happening 😡

We also had an incident at the Christmas party at school. DSN taught us a good trick with the pump to enable daughter to be just like her friends at parties and stuff her face with biscuits and cakes etc without her blood sugars going into orbit. Basically enter a large number of carbs (e.g. 200) and put it on a multiwave bolus with 50% up front and the rest spread over 3 hours. This has worked brilliantly in the past, blood sugars afterwards are bang on normal whereas if we tried to carb count that amount of sugar properly they would probably be about 20!
At this party daughter set up the bolus correctly, helped herself to a plate of biscuits and then got a load of nosy teachers saying "you can't eat those, you'll have to stick to sausage rolls". Daughter told them that she could eat them and in fact had already taken the insulin for them and would have to eat them now, but they ignored her, class teacher was out, they looked for last year's teacher but she was also out, then eventually they rang me. All this time daughter was not allowed to eat anything, by the time they had cleared it with me most of the food had gone so daughter didn't get anywhere near as much as she had bolused for. At home time we stopped the remainder of the bolus going in but still had to shovel sugar down her throat for the next hour in order to avoid a major hypo. I spoke to the teachers concerned and they kept saying "she had an enormous plate of biscuits you know" and looking at me as if I was the one who didn't understand when I said yes she could eat them because she'd taken an enormous amount of insulin to cover it!

I do get why people don't understand diabetes, and there are a lot of misconceptions around it; I don't mind people asking questions if they listen to the answers - I do get a few people, when witnessing the finger pricking/carb counting/bolusing routine for the first time, that then ask rather incredulously "do you have to do that every day?" Which I find rather amusing! But the ones who think that they know better than we do, when we have to live with it 24/7 and they don't , I find VERY annoying! Especially when they won't even listen to my daughter, she's 9 now and understands her condition pretty well. Certainly better than they do!
 
From friends
- when round for a meal here or at theirs 'Are you allowed to eat this?'
- People telling me that they have read in a 'newspaper' that you can
cure yourself from diabetes by just adjusting your diet or by eating less sugar.

From family
Fortunate enough to have someone who reminds me that 'You are not a robot'
when things go inexplicably haywire.

I hope that is of some help.
 
'But you've had it for years' implying diabetes is some static condition that insulin cures and I really should be able to control everything perfectly- missing the point that every day is different and doing the same thing twice in a row will give different results.
'It must be like brushing your teeth' - it is absolutely nothing like brushing my teeth, managing diabetes is 24/7 and has dire consequences if I get it wrong.
A friend saying she was a 'bit hungry now you mention it' when I was having a hypo, being hypo is really not the same as being a bit hungry!
 
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As all the others have said, the one that really gets my goat is people telling me "I can't/shouldn't have that".

The woman who suggested I was a 'bad' diabetic because I inject more than once a day when her hubby only does it once and he's fine.

Another one who'd been watching Casualty and wanted to give me insulin for a hypo.

The man who said "you got it because you're a greedy, fat old bat"! Well no, my whole family is overweight, but I'm the only diabetic and then I'm not T2, which I would be if I fit his stereotype.

And the T2 stuffing his face with a huge plate of pasta while moaning that his last HbA was sky high when he'd given up all the sugar. I tried to explain the process of converting carbs to glucose, but his eyes glazed over.

Hospital staff who fail to carry out tests on time, won't let you test yourself and think it doesn't matter when you're either high as a kite or on the floor. People with chronic conditions often know more than you do about their particular problem and you should listen to them.

And, finally, for now. The so-called diabetes nurse (she's had half a day's training and thinks she's an expert) who insists I should be eating more carbs not less, and these fad diets never work. This in the teeth of the evidence as shown by my HbA results and the fact that I've actually managed to lose a bit of weight this way when I couldn't before.

EAT. Thanks, that got my blood pressure up a bit, I'm usually low there too. 🙂
 
I nearly forgot. All those well meaning people in the early days who kept giving me 'diabetic' jam/chocolate/sweeties which is a: far too expensive, and b: has some very unfortunate side effects, and c: tastes terrible. And anyway, I was never much into sweets and always preferred a little bit of really good 85% choc to the high street stuff.
 
All of the above!

Plus -
When did you become diabetic? When I had my pancreas removed. Gosh, does that make you diabetic?

There are more than two types of diabetes.
The ignorance and lack of understanding of the medical profession about the condition.
 
There was a T2 on this forum a couple of years ago that said "Diabetes was not a life threating illness" 😱. I have a very very good friend who is not here any more 🙄
 
When I was in hospital recovering from my total pancreatectomy I was in critical care for four days then moved to an ordinary ward, this scared me because I realised that most of the nurses knew less than me about diabetes and I had only just been made diabetic by the operation so I knew nothing. I had several serious hypos because I was given insulin when I wasn't eating.

I asked a nurse one day to help me up the bed please because I hadn't got the strength to lift myself and I was finding it painful in the position I was in. The nurse replied, ' You can do it yourself! There's a man in the next ward and he's 94 years old and he's doing better than you! She made no attempt to help me, another nurse tilted my bed back and said shuffle backwards now! Florence Nightingale turn in your grave! Was I glad to get out of that place.
 
I would like to add a question most of my friends and family (apart from husband and children who see how it needs to be managed every day) So you've had it a while now, it must be under good control? Ok you get better at carb counting and inderstanding how your body reacts to different situations/foods etc, but each day is still a new day in which we walk the tightrope.
 
Similar to Michael's comment above - my Dad blamed my Mum for causing my T1 diabetes by allowing me to eat too much sugar as a child. (Not that she did particularly). My Mum only told me this story after my Dad died over 20 years later. :(
 
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