Snacks

[Val999]

I am trying to cut down on carbs which for me was generally too much bread during the day. However the result of this is I am feeling quite hungry around 4pm. So can anyone suggest some snacks I can buy that would be OK to have just to tide me over to dinner time.

Thanks all

 

[Annette]

Nuts. A handful of plain (ie not roasted/salted/etc) mixed nuts - low in carbs, high in protein so will satiate your hunger, and pretty good for you as well.

 

[pottersusan]

Cheese - Babybel (I wish I liked nuts!)

 

[GregP]

Sugar free jelly is getting me through those times before meals when I just need something!

 

[stephknits]

I'm weird, but I like a pickled egg

 

[GregP]

I'm weird, but I like a pickled egg

That's not at all weird - I'd sell my grandmother for a pickled egg right now

 

[Val999]

Thanks all, I have been eating walnuts but still feel hungry, maybe I should just eat some more. I couldn't stomach a pickled egg and the only cheese I could eat on its own is the high fat variety and I have high cholesterol as well. Maybe I just go and shoot myself now lol 😱 The sugar free jelly sounds good, I will look for that.

 

[GregP]

Hummus and carrot/cucumber sticks are also good for me

 

[Val999]

Thanks Greg but having been told a while a go that hummus was good I bought some but one spoon was enough for me and the rest of the tub went straight in the bin. There you go.......

 

[Lynn Davies]

I'm with you on that one Val

 

[DeusXM]

There's no connection between cholesterol and fat. The two are completely different substances and nothing to do with each other.

There are only two dietary things that affect your cholesterol and they don't work as you'd think.

Your cholesterol level is largely self set by your body. The majority of your cholesterol is actually manufactured by your liver.

The more cholesterol you eat, the less cholesterol your liver makes. So you could cut out cholesterol entirely, but if you have high cholesterol, it's probably your liver's fault and so you'd still have high cholesterol.

And the more carbs you eat, the MORE cholesterol your body produces. Your liver keeps producing cholesterol as long as there's insulin circulating.

I'm not surprised you're getting hungry. Your body needs fat to feel sated, so if you've cut your carbs AND your fat, you body has nothing to feel full on.

You almost certainly need more fat in your diet.

 

[Val999]

I was told by my doctor to reduce saturated fats when a blood test revealed that my cholesterol was high so am very confused now.

 

[robert@fm]

Unfortunately, a lot of medical advice is outdated or just plain wrong; how on earth the myth of the "balanced" diet, which advocates treating diabetes (which is known to be a carbohydrate intolerance) with a high-carb diet (like telling kidney-disease sufferers to sprinkle plenty of salt on everything) took hold, is beyond me. 🙄

 

[Val999]

My chief difficulty in all this is that the diabetes requires that I reduce carbs and the high cholesterol reduce saturated fats. When I look at food labels often what is OK for one is bad for the other and vice versa. I guess I will just have to do the best I can and await the results of the next blood test as I don't have the means to test myself.

To cap it all one of my dogs was sick on the carpet this evening !

 

[robert@fm]

My chief difficulty in all this is that the diabetes requires that I reduce carbs and the high cholesterol reduce saturated fats.

Did you read @DeusXM's post? To reduce your high cholesterol you need to reduce carbs — reducing fats won't touch your cholesterol, it will just leave you feeling hungry.

[ETA:] Regarding medical advice, given the choice of believing what I am told by those who have studied a condition, versus what I am told by those who actually have to live with that condition 24/7, I know which I find more credible. 🙄 (Clue: only one of those two groups absolutely have to get it right, because their very lives and health depend on it.)

 

[Val999]

Yes I did read that Robert but it was not in line with what my doctor told me ie to cut down on saturated fats but that was before I got diagnosed with diabetes. I will continue to cut down on carbs then and not worry about the fats much.

 

[DeusXM]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin

It's a long read but basically a very good explanation of why the demonising of fat has been misguided and why doctors persist in giving the wrong advice.

It may shock you to find out that the only proper study ever carried out on the effect of a low-fat diet for women delivered the 'wrong' result ie it actually proved it didn't work. You may also be shocked to find just how flimsy the evidence is for problems caused by saturated fat.

And if you're worried about cholesterol...I live off of cheese and meat. I fry everything in butter.

My triglycerides, last time they were tested, were LOWER than average for someone WITHOUT diabetes.

 

[Val999]

Many thanks for that DeusXM and I will definitely cut my carbs and not worry about the fat. I love cheese too and am a meat eater like yourself.

 

[Mark Parrott]

I started LCHF as soon as i was diagnosed. My cholesterol was 7.2. In the last 3 months I have avoided bread (except the very seeded versions) pasta, rice & potatoes & eat butter, cheese, bacon & everything full fat to my heart's content. Just got my results yesterday & cholesterol has dropped to 6.2. Work in progress but getting there.🙂

 

[Val999]

For those who eat cheese is there a cracker you can put it on without too many carbs or do you just eat it on its own. Sorry for all the questions folks but its all new to me. Thanks