School closures: Classrooms ‘could be shut until 2025’

[Lily123]

We're still dealing with all the dangerous high rise apartment blocks all over the country, people effectively trapped in dangerous buildings (combustible claddings) which until fixed can't be sold, add to that increased mortgage costs, awful. The inside of these apartments are just as dangerous, all sorts of issues.

Now we are moving on to schools, hospitals, prisons etc. What's next? Low rise apartment blocks?

It always seems it could do with these materials that have now been discovered to be unsafe,should undergo more rigorous testng before use. They are already tested as we all know but it seems that they pick the cheapest rather than the most safe

 

[Satan’s little helper]

Or perhaps the return of the nightingale hospitals.

That was what I was thinking. (Couldn’t remember the name.) Did they ever get used?

 

[Amity Island]

It always seems it could do with these materials that have now been discovered to be unsafe,should undergo more rigorous testng before use. They are already tested as we all know but it seems that they pick the cheapest rather than the most safe

The bottom line to all these defects/problems is cost cutting. They knew at the time all these materials (raac concrete, combustible cladding etc) were sub-standard. If you pump concrete full of air, of course it will lose its strength. How any professionals would recommend putting air into structural concrete is beyond stupidity.

 

[Amity Island]

That was what I was thinking. (Couldn’t remember the name.) Did they ever get used?

Despite much initial fanfare, the NHS Nightingale Hospitals - part of the UK's planned response to COVID - were barely used. Now, years later, there are claims money spent on the sites has been lost.

Hundreds of the beds bought for Nightingale wards are being sold for as little as £6, despite being bought for £2,500 each, the Mirror has reported

According to a written answer by former health minister Lord Bethell in January 2021, the forecast for total costs including set-up, running costs, stand-by costs, and costs of decommissioning across all Nightingales was expected to reach around £532 million covering the tail end of 2020/21 and 2021/22.

What's happened to the Nightingale Hospitals?

Seven NHS Nightingale Hospitals were set up in England early in the pandemic but in the end they were barely used.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

The bottom line to all these defects/problems is cost cutting. They knew at the time all these materials (raac concrete, combustible cladding etc) were sub-standard. If you pump concrete full of air, of course it will lose its strength. How any professionals would recommend putting air into structural concrete is beyond stupidity.

Wasn’t RAAC borne out of post-war necessity initially? Though it did hang around way past it’s sell-by date, and then the “Hmmmm…. wekd better keep an eye on that” quickly became “Lalalalalala not listening!!”

 

[Bruce Stephens]

Wasn’t RAAC borne out of post-war necessity initially? Though it did hang around way past it’s sell-by date, and then the “Hmmmm…. wekd better keep an eye on that” quickly became “Lalalalalala not listening!!”

Once you've got a nice cheap, light, building material it's going to be hard to not use it.

Nobody wants to spend more than they need to, and something that looks like it'll last 20 years (say) is probably going to be regarded as fine. There's probably some votes in building a nice school or hospital that would last for a century without too much drastic rebuilding, but probably not nearly enough to do it.