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Welcome Spireite72 - you are now a member of the best forum ever!
 
Zillah said:
Welcome Spireite72 - you are now a member of the best forum ever!
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Thank you just looking through the recipes pages it’s so confusing what I can and can’t eat.
 
I have to be careful giving advice to your due to you having to take insulin and therefore having to eat certain things so how I understand it is like this, as type 2 diabetics we are unable to deal with the sugar in our bloodstream, it effectively is trapped in our blood and cannot reach the parts it needs to reach, therefore it stays in our blood and this can cause problems so the less glucose we ingest, the less we have to worry about, I think its important to point out although we tend to blame sugar, we should in fact be blaming carbohydrates, sugar is a carbohydrate but so are lots of other foods, some foods high in carbohydrates are bread, rice, pasta & potatoes, this really sucks because they are a staple of our modern diet, but the less of these food groups we have the better BUT whilst you are taking insulin, you need to be careful not to mess with too few carbohydrates as the insulin can lower your sugar too much and cause low blood sugars or "hypo" which is also bad, you over shoot your target of lower blood sugar, its a balancing act, i'm sorry if i'm teaching you to suck eggs I am just trying to explain it how I would understand it.

I am nervous of overwhelming you with information and possibly making things worse so please take what ive said with a large pinch of salt, but then throw the pinch in the bin, not on your dinner lol

My advice for what its worth in your case and at your stage would be to basically cut out the junk food, fizzy drinks, alcohol and eat real, wholesome foods that you cook at home, your going to be on a bit of a roller coaster for a while so I would say the changes you make need to be done in a very measured way
 
@Spireite72
It’s perfectly normal to feel this way, I have went through times like this even though having type 1 for many years now. There are many users on the forum that understand what you are going through and there will always be someone here if you need any advice on anything.
 
Hi Spireite and welcome to the forum. 🙂 Things will definitely get better in time in terms of managing your diabetes and it certainly will be easier and less stressful than supporting Chesterfield. 😉
 
Matt Cycle said:
Hi Spireite and welcome to the forum. 🙂 Things will definitely get better in time in terms of managing your diabetes and it certainly will be easier and less stressful than supporting Chesterfield. 😉
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That’s very true
 
Think I had a small panic attack this morning I have a rash that is itching and driving me crazy think it could be a reaction to one or more of my meds. Waiting for a call back from my doctor about my insulin and the problems with my sugars getting lower after I eat. My DN is off sick today.
 
Spireite72 said:
Think I had a small panic attack this morning I have a rash that is itching and driving me crazy think it could be a reaction to one or more of my meds. Waiting for a call back from my doctor about my insulin and the problems with my sugars getting lower after I eat. My DN is off sick today.
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Hope the doctor sorts it for you :(
 
As you area lucky type two you might be able to stop insulin if you can cut out the foods which are causing your blood glucose to go up more than you can cope with.
Stopping eating bread, pasta, rice, cereals in general, potatoes and other starchy veges plus sugars, including fruit with high amounts of carbs can be a bit of a shock, but that can - and does, stop diabetes dead.
It would mean no problem with driving so it might be something to think about - you'd not be entitled to testing equipment on free prescription, and you might well be advised to go low fat rather than low carb - even though there are no essential carbs but there are essential fats. Plus all the stuff about eating low fat for heart health seems to be collapsing under a weight of facts rather than fabricated research - Dr Atkins was, after all a cardiologist first and foremost - and I have seen my levels going down eating LCHF - though it is only high fat by today's standards, I don't add extra fat.
Your blood glucose levels going down after you eat might be a good thing as it is possibly showing that you don't require as much insulin as you are injecting - I do hope so, but perhaps calling the surgery to get advice would be a good idea - injected insulin is dangerous when it is not in balance with what you need so don't go to bed low, eat and set an alarm to check BG during the night.
 
Drummer said:
As you area lucky type two you might be able to stop insulin if you can cut out the foods which are causing your blood glucose to go up more than you can cope with.
Stopping eating bread, pasta, rice, cereals in general, potatoes and other starchy veges plus sugars, including fruit with high amounts of carbs can be a bit of a shock, but that can - and does, stop diabetes dead.
It would mean no problem with driving so it might be something to think about - you'd not be entitled to testing equipment on free prescription, and you might well be advised to go low fat rather than low carb - even though there are no essential carbs but there are essential fats. Plus all the stuff about eating low fat for heart health seems to be collapsing under a weight of facts rather than fabricated research - Dr Atkins was, after all a cardiologist first and foremost - and I have seen my levels going down eating LCHF - though it is only high fat by today's standards, I don't add extra fat.
Your blood glucose levels going down after you eat might be a good thing as it is possibly showing that you don't require as much insulin as you are injecting - I do hope so, but perhaps calling the surgery to get advice would be a good idea - injected insulin is dangerous when it is not in balance with what you need so don't go to bed low, eat and set an alarm to check BG during the night.
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Thank you the alarm idea is great could stop me worrying so much. My diet at the minute is low carb and low fat it’s a balancing act between my heart and the diabetes at the minute. Saturated fats and salt are a no. Cut carbs to 20/30g a day lots of green veg. I seem ok with protein so chicken turkey and fish are working at the minute.
 
Drummer said:
you'd not be entitled to testing equipment on free prescription
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Definately insist on test strips as you are on insulin. You can go hypo. You also need to match your insulin to your carb intake.
 
If your Dr still believes that there is a link between saturated fats and heart disease then it is probably best not to challenge him, but do avoid seed oils high in omega 6 as they seem to be showing up as bad boys - poultry and fish fat is not highly saturated and seems to be a good thing, in that you can live on it. Olive oil is my main source of salad dressing, with wine vinegars or organic apple cider vinegar, I do use coconut oil for baking, though I think that olive oil might give better results - it is early days for me as I am only just beginning to eat more carbs. Low carb low fat is quite dangerous to keep up for weeks at a time, as your body is breaking down protein to make glucose, rather than using fat for energy by ketosis.
Eating low carb got me out of the diabetic range in 80 days from diagnosis so it can be really effective, but it is so effective that if you do not need insulin then it can be dangerous. Many type twos are actually over producing insulin on their own and I had some crash dives in mid afternoon when recovering, without any medication, as my insulin resistance changed over the course of the day and became less later in the day.
 
Thanks for the tips much appreciate.
Drummer said:
If your Dr still believes that there is a link between saturated fats and heart disease then it is probably best not to challenge him, but do avoid seed oils high in omega 6 as they seem to be showing up as bad boys - poultry and fish fat is not highly saturated and seems to be a good thing, in that you can live on it. Olive oil is my main source of salad dressing, with wine vinegars or organic apple cider vinegar, I do use coconut oil for baking, though I think that olive oil might give better results - it is early days for me as I am only just beginning to eat more carbs. Low carb low fat is quite dangerous to keep up for weeks at a time, as your body is breaking down protein to make glucose, rather than using fat for energy by ketosis.
Eating low carb got me out of the diabetic range in 80 days from diagnosis so it can be really effective, but it is so effective that if you do not need insulin then it can be dangerous. Many type twos are actually over producing insulin on their own and I had some crash dives in mid afternoon when recovering, without any medication, as my insulin resistance changed over the course of the day and became less later in the day.
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thanks for the tips much appreciate. I’m learning a lot it’s great to be able to get advice and support from the real people in the know. Almost feels like after the hospital were I was really looked after its here you go now get on with it.
 
From what you said about the hospital menu they didn't look after you that well. Now you are home with your family you can make much better food choices. I have found lots of recipes on www.ditchthecarbs.com, try the fathead pizza, it's delicious! My non diabetic husband loves it and now won't eat "normal" pizza. You have done a great job bringing your BG levels down, well done!
 
Spiriete I would ask you surgery for a meter & testing strips...you are on insulin which as @Ralph-YK says could cause hypos...there's no reason for them to refuse...did you get a call back from your surgery yet?
 
Bubbsie said:
Spiriete I would ask you surgery for a meter & testing strips...you are on insulin which as @Ralph-YK says could cause hypos...there's no reason for them to refuse...did you get a call back from your surgery yet?
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i have a tester and my strips on prescription gave me one in hospital. Yes doctor called yesterday wasn’t to concerned told me my levels are good. And to make sure I eat some carbs with each meal so the insulin works properly. I see my surgery DN next week she’s phoning me Tuesday so we can sit down and go through everything.
 
Jeandp said:
From what you said about the hospital menu they didn't look after you that well. Now you are home with your family you can make much better food choices. I have found lots of recipes on www.ditchthecarbs.com, try the fathead pizza, it's delicious! My non diabetic husband loves it and now won't eat "normal" pizza. You have done a great job bringing your BG levels down, well done!
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Thank you so much. The link is great and very helpful still trying to get my head round food and they look very nice recipes.
 
Spireite72 said:
i have a tester and my strips on prescription gave me one in hospital. Yes doctor called yesterday wasn’t to concerned told me my levels are good. And to make sure I eat some carbs with each meal so the insulin works properly. I see my surgery DN next week she’s phoning me Tuesday so we can sit down and go through everything.
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Okay so you have had a response from your surgery at least...it is still very early days for you...are you doing any reading/research yet...often at the start the wealth of information can be overwhelming...a bit here & there its difficult to 'join up the dots'...I had the feeling I'd never get the hang of this dammed diabetes...you will...but it does take some time...it might be useful to do a little research...get yourself a list of questions ready...don't be worried to ask them...diabetes is one condition we can largely manage ourselves...once we get the right advice & support...good luck.
 
Had a sit down and chat with my family yesterday. Looking into diets and best way forward( winging it a little at the moment) with all the pros and cons and we have decided the LCHF is probably the best way forward. The hospital told me if I look after my diabetes my heart will look after itself with the help of a few meds. With my BGL improved massively it feels so good to start taking control of this. Onwards and upwards feel a little emotional and proud of myself. Going to discuss it with my DN next week
 
Spireite72 said:
Had a sit down and chat with my family yesterday. Looking into diets and best way forward( winging it a little at the moment) with all the pros and cons and we have decided the LCHF is probably the best way forward. The hospital told me if I look after my diabetes my heart will look after itself with the help of a few meds. With my BGL improved massively it feels so good to start taking control of this. Onwards and upwards feel a little emotional and proud of myself. Going to discuss it with my DN next week
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Good Spireite...I saw your waking BG this morning...it was spot on...you're likely to find things do go up or down a little as you continue but there will come a point where things start to make sense...you can put things in perspective...feeling more confident is such an important part of good management...so many positive examples here & elsewhere...I do the LCHF routine...not everyone feels comfortable with it...but we all have to find what works best for us...testing...monitoring you BGs will tell you what works best for you...support from your family is massively important...likely you may all find your diagnosis brings about great health benefits for the whole family...be interested to hear if they decide to stop the insulin...give us an update when you can...good luck.
 
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