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Reason for my high white blood cell count

trophywench

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Type 1
Nobody was particularly concerned about that but what did concern the experts was my consistently high lymphocyte level. More tests ensued after November and I got the results last week. I have something called CLL. As it doesn't appear to be affecting me much at all at the mo there is no treatment to be pursued and what's going to happen is 'active surveillance' aka watchful waiting - blood test every 6 months and looking for any increase in several specific elements.
 
Sorry to hear that Jenny, but hopefully it will continue not affecting you much.
 
Nobody was particularly concerned about that but what did concern the experts was my consistently high lymphocyte level. More tests ensued after November and I got the results last week. I have something called CLL. As it doesn't appear to be affecting me much at all at the mo there is no treatment to be pursued and what's going to happen is 'active surveillance' aka watchful waiting - blood test every 6 months and looking for any increase in several specific elements.
I was watching for your update on this Jenny. Sorry to hear CLL has been confirmed but hopefully you’ll be in the third who never require treatment. Please drop me a pm if you think I could help with anything. I speak fluent CLL!
 
I knew someone on here had told me they knew about it but couldn't remember who. Apparently they had to send a sample (from UHCW) over to Birmingham to check on whatever the 'iffy' things are which said that bit of my blood had 60% and 50+ = CLL.

The only thing I'm not too happy about is our GP being entrusted to get the tests done. Husband is still waiting for his annual PSA test and I haven't had my annual diabetes check for last year, all my 'repeat' prescriptions were due for review last October........ this year next year sometime never......
 
jenny sory to hear this take care
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I knew someone on here had told me they knew about it but couldn't remember who. Apparently they had to send a sample (from UHCW) over to Birmingham to check on whatever the 'iffy' things are which said that bit of my blood had 60% and 50+ = CLL.

The only thing I'm not too happy about is our GP being entrusted to get the tests done. Husband is still waiting for his annual PSA test and I haven't had my annual diabetes check for last year, all my 'repeat' prescriptions were due for review last October........ this year next year sometime never......
I have a condition that requires regular blood tests. The tests aren't complicated, but to ensure they get done, at the correct times, my Consultant is happy to entrust me with a pile of blood papers so that I can have them done, as required, without troubling the GP.

Things have taken a bit of a turn in recent months when I changed GP to a practice 1 mile closer to home (but more importantly with a far better GP/Patient ratio). At the old place, tests were sent to Leicester labs. New GP sends to Warwickshire. Hospital now can't see any GP test results, and where required, the GP must email them through.

The GP is not my PA!

Just another sign of the not-joined-up IT systems.

Obviously, I'll just have near-repeat tests done, at the hospital, so that the consultant and GP don't have to play the merry dance.
 
Hi Jen

Sorry to hear this. Hopefully yours will be one that needs no treatment. I seem to recall that Alan (from Aus that we met at one of the DSF meets) suffered from the same thing. I keep in touch with him through FB and years later he’s still travelling the world so don’t be too discouraged.
 
Sorry to hear about your CLL @trophywench

Hope your appointments, reviews, and blood checks all start flowing again as the year progresses, and winter pressures on the NHS ease a smidgen.
 
Well - we have the nutty system that means in the main that blood tests instigated by any hospital does not get recorded on the NHS App that patients have access to. Only ones instigated by the GP. Yes of course the consultant writes and tells us what the results are with a copy of that letter being sent to the GP. But the consultant doesn't put them on the App. I assumed when all this was sorted it would be integral so the Path Lab results would automatically populate the App. Silly old me.
 
Well - we have the nutty system that means in the main that blood tests instigated by any hospital does not get recorded on the NHS App that patients have access to. Only ones instigated by the GP. Yes of course the consultant writes and tells us what the results are with a copy of that letter being sent to the GP. But the consultant doesn't put them on the App. I assumed when all this was sorted it would be integral so the Path Lab results would automatically populate the App. Silly old me.
I had to see the GP earlier in the week and explained my predicament. He just did it, but agrees, it's bonkers.

Somewhere along the line, it obviously got too expensive to join stuff up properly. Of course, the fact that GPs can use a variety of systems, like SystmOnline, Patent Access etc., just adds to the complexity and a real life example of when "choice" isn't necessarily a great thing.

Hey ho.

I'll just take responsibility for ensuring he doesn't need to repeat that exercise, without good reason.
 
Where my son in law is a GP the GP and hospital systems for results are integrated so available to both. He couldn't believe it when I said it isn't in Coventry and Warwickshire.
 
Where my son in law is a GP the GP and hospital systems for results are integrated so available to both. He couldn't believe it when I said it isn't in Coventry and Warwickshire.
They are not in Essex either, but they are thinking of introducing in the future.
 
Hi Jenny, sorry to hear about the CLL diagnosis and hope that it doesn't develop any further. Keep badgering your doctor to get regular review blood tests. I found out earlier this year I have a bone marrow disorder. Not serious at the moment but 6 monthly blood checks to monitor it. I will hold them to that.
I hope your husband gets his test done soon and you both get appointments and reviews done as soon as possible.
 
They are also not joined up today in the Integrated Care Board of Bucks, Berks and Oxford.
Somewhere along the line, it obviously got too expensive to join stuff up properly. Of course, the fact that GPs can use a variety of systems, like SystmOnline, Patent Access etc., just adds to the complexity and a real life example of when "choice" isn't necessarily a great thing.
Alas, @AndBreathe, when I lived in Bucks and had my surgery in Oxford, then my subsequent chemo in Bucks but overseen by an Oxford Oncologist (2020) all parties were disadvantaged by the lack of joined up IT. A Bucks Consultant pointedly observed that the truth was "Trusts don't trust" and there was considerable reluctance to pursue any commonality. Not just because of IT security risks, but some senior staff resented the idea that "their patients" could then be managed from elsewhere OR their diagnosis and treatments could be quietly overseen from elsewhere. I sensed that there were "senior staff" who were rather furtively obstructing the idea of any integration.

I was at that time unaware of the initiative (pre-Covid, I think started by Jeremy Hunt when he was Secretary of State) to create the current large Regional Integrated Care Boards (ICBs), which trundled along post Covid and finally went live in mid 2022. These ought to have overtaken the "resistance" but if I'm generous, I can see that post Covid catch up meant that the development work needed for ICBs got overtaken by events!

I moved from Bucks to Berks in mid '23 and at that moment Oncology between Bucks and Oxford was still not joined up. Oxford Oncology had an admin team embedded in Bucks whose job was to act as the conduit between the 2 Trusts and I know for certain that Oxford HPB tapped into that friendly team in enemy territory to get access to my Oncology sponsored CT scans. There was also, at one point, a cat-fight about who should pay for a blood test that Oxford sought; Oxford couldn't raise the phlebotomy request on a Bucks provider.

I have commented elsewhere that Oxford is a very refreshing place to be for health care. The Diabetes Centre Reception have been actively promoting, for at least 12 months, an initiative whereby any outpatient can use their appointment letter in conjunction with their allocated MRN # and sign up to create a patient access account within the Oxford University Hospital Trust. Regardless of where they actually live. This allows me to see, independently of what is on my NHS login, any correspondence or results that Oxford hold about me. This is going a long way to help me consolidate my medical data for myself. I would like to hope that other Trusts have similar initiatives in place or being considered. Integration isn't going to be soon, I fear.

Conversely, according to my NHS records my GP has made over 150 actions on my medical records since I've been in Berks, the vast majority of which tell me nothing of any possible use. There is a date, name of someone in the Medical Centre and sometimes a title that might describe an activity. But letters or Reports that summarise some event might be mentioned, but nothing about any findings, test results or consequential decisions. UNLESS that information was initiated within the Medical Centre. Since my dealings with my GP or the Medical Centre are very infrequent, there is in practice little of use to me in my NHS online records.

It all feels a mess littered with lost opportunities.
 
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