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pat7762

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hi everyone,i'm struggling with my blood count,morning 11.2, then i take my gliclazide tab wait 20min then have a coffee,2hrs later take blood again,11.4,my highest spike was 27.0 last week.i use to be able to keep it at pre food 4 to 5 and after food no higher than 8.0,something as gone wrong somewhere,can anyone help me solve this.
thank you,pat
 
hi everyone,struggling with high blood counts,this morning,before breakfast,11.2 took gliclazide 20 min before breakfast had coffee 2 hrs later 11.4,had a spike last week 27.0,never had this problem a few months ago,need help can't seem to regulate my sugar
thank,pat
 
Hi Pat - what dose of gliclazide and how long have you been on it, plus, any other drugs?
 
Sorry to hear you are struggling with your levels.
What did you have for breakfast?
Has anything changed with your diet and exercise regime to cause this increase or have you been ill recently or taking new medication which might cause levels to increase?
 
rebrascora said:
Sorry to hear you are struggling with your levels.
What did you have for breakfast?
Has anything changed with your diet and exercise regime to cause this increase or have you been ill recently or taking new medication which might cause levels to increase?
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hi,i only had coffee for breakfast
 
Maybe that is part of the problem then. Eating something can trigger the pancreas to release insulin. Have you tried eating breakfast. If so and you see even higher results then it would suggest that you are unable to produce enough insulin. The Gliclazide is supposed to stimulate your pancreas to produce more insulin but if it is unable to then you will need exogenous (injected) insulin.
It may be that your insulin producing beta cells are burn out or that you are a misdiagnosed Type 1 and your immune system has killed them off. Many medical professionals assume that if people develop diabetes in later life that they must be Type 2 but there are many of us here who developed Type 1 as mature adults. I was 55 but there are cases of people developing it in their 80s. It generally has a slower onset when you are older and can therefore appear to be more like Type 2 initially. Do you have any other autoimmune conditions?

What sort of things do you typically eat in a day for breakfast, lunch and evening meal?
What did you have that sent your levels up to 27?

Edited to change glucose to insulin in order to make sense. Thanks @harbottle for pointing out my error.
 
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rebrascora said:
Maybe that is part of the problem then. Eating something can trigger the pancreas to release insulin. Have you tried eating breakfast. If so and you see even higher results then it would suggest that you are unable to produce enough glucose. The Gliclazide is supposed to stimulate your pancreas to produce more glucose but if it is unable to then you will need exogenous (injected) insulin.
It may be that your insulin producing beta cells are burn out or that you are a misdiagnosed Type 1 and your immune system has killed them off. Many medical professionals assume that if people develop diabetes in later life that they must be Type 2 but there are many of us here who developed Type 1 as mature adults. I was 55 but there are cases of people developing it in their 80s. It generally has a slower onset when you are older and can therefore appear to be more like Type 2 initially. Do you have any other autoimmune conditions?

What sort of things do you typically eat in a day for breakfast, lunch and evening meal?
What did you have that sent your levels up to 27?
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I think you might want to correct this... 🙂
 
harbottle said:
I think you might want to correct this... 🙂
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Oops! That will teach me to type a message when I am recovering from a migraine and clearly still not able to mentally focus properly. Thanks so much for pointing it out.
 
rebrascora said:
Maybe that is part of the problem then. Eating something can trigger the pancreas to release insulin. Have you tried eating breakfast. If so and you see even higher results then it would suggest that you are unable to produce enough insulin. The Gliclazide is supposed to stimulate your pancreas to produce more insulin but if it is unable to then you will need exogenous (injected) insulin.
It may be that your insulin producing beta cells are burn out or that you are a misdiagnosed Type 1 and your immune system has killed them off. Many medical professionals assume that if people develop diabetes in later life that they must be Type 2 but there are many of us here who developed Type 1 as mature adults. I was 55 but there are cases of people developing it in their 80s. It generally has a slower onset when you are older and can therefore appear to be more like Type 2 initially. Do you have any other autoimmune conditions?

What sort of things do you typically eat in a day for breakfast, lunch and evening meal?
What did you have that sent your levels up to 27?

Edited to change glucose to insulin in order to make sense. Thanks @harbottle for pointing out my error.
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i have protien drink for breakfast most of the time,lunch,salad and salmon or tuna,steak and mash,on the 27 count i ate the wrong things like crisps and malteasers,i do have a bad sugar craving at times.
 
You are on the lowest possible dose of Gliclazide - so that could be increased if nothing else. As we get older (and I'm 75 and this annoys me) our bodies including all the internal bits we can't see) just get slower to react, and need a bit more help - so if nothing else it's definitely worth explaining this to your GP and seeing what he suggests.
 
hi,i'm at the dr's today so i will ask him about my dosage,(i'm 79) and i've been on this dosage for a really long time,i thought my diabetic nurse would have picked up on it.yestday after eating i slice of quiche which was only 1.1 sugar my count went from 8.8 to 14.9, so i know something is amiss,thank you for your help,pat
 
pat7762 said:
hi,i'm at the dr's today so i will ask him about my dosage,(i'm 79) and i've been on this dosage for a really long time,i thought my diabetic nurse would have picked up on it.yestday after eating i slice of quiche which was only 1.1 sugar my count went from 8.8 to 14.9, so i know something is amiss,thank you for your help,pat
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Carbs turn to sugar. If you didn't bake it check under nutrition for carbs. Pastry will have carbs which turn to sugar. Obviously if it was a crustless quiche ( my skinny sisters favourite) fewer carbs.
 
pat7762 said:
hi,i'm at the dr's today so i will ask him about my dosage,(i'm 79) and i've been on this dosage for a really long time,i thought my diabetic nurse would have picked up on it.yestday after eating i slice of quiche which was only 1.1 sugar my count went from 8.8 to 14.9, so i know something is amiss,thank you for your help,pat
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Please forget about sugar and focus on the carbs. My wife had a small quiche for her lunch and I just checked the nutrition panel - 31.6g carb. That's all destined to be turned into glucose. She isn't diabetic so it doesn't matter but there's no way I'd have one.
 
Martin.A said:
Please forget about sugar and focus on the carbs. My wife had a small quiche for her lunch and I just checked the nutrition panel - 31.6g carb. That's all destined to be turned into glucose. She isn't diabetic so it doesn't matter but there's no way I'd have one.
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I've had a small quiche cooked in my local garden centre with salad or veg. Not often but I reckon it's OK for a meal. However carb count on some things are astonishingly high. I remember buying a prawn laksa meal from M and S reasonably low carb [ 30.4] However a prawn pad Thai in same range was more than double the carbs [84.8] If i hadn't have checked i would have guessed pad Thai at 40 ish.
 
pat7762 said:
hi,i'm at the dr's today so i will ask him about my dosage,(i'm 79) and i've been on this dosage for a really long time,i thought my diabetic nurse would have picked up on it.yestday after eating i slice of quiche which was only 1.1 sugar my count went from 8.8 to 14.9, so i know something is amiss,thank you for your help,pat
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But what was the carb count?
Things which are low sugar but high in starch such as quiche can seem 'safe' but on closer inspection it is obvious where the glucose is coming from.
I don't eat any grain as it is 2/3rds carbs by weight as a rough guide - I stick to things 10% carbs or under.
 
I wonder mebbe that the pastry is most likely made from white/refined flour. as would be the noodles
in pad thai. might be worth swapping for wholegrain version and seeing how that pans out
 
hi everyone thanks for all your replys,dr told me i should have been on 80 mg over 18 mths ago,so now i'm on the right dosage maybe my sugar count will reduce,i do carb count try to keep daily consumption down to 1200 carbs i also do 30 on my bike
 
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