Please help me with Breakfast

[Cherrytree preserves]

I have been having bran flakes, unsweetened almond milk, taking the fibre carbs off, BUT the sugar content is still spiking my levels from a waking level of 9-11 to 15-17 even with an early dose of my nova. I need alternatives, tried weetabix tried porridge, I’m a hungry gym going production line operative who needs to be full up, keep in mind that I get up at 0530 and leave for work at 0615 each day, cooking is not an option with 4 children’s lunchboxes to make too.

 

[Kaylz]

Your from the UK right? may I ask why your deducting the fibre from the carbs stated? the fibre is already deducted on UK labels

Do you return to normal levels by the next meal or 4 hours later without taking any more insulin?

When you say early dose, how far in advance are you taking your insulin before eating?
xx

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

Ah, it’s just something another diabetic once told me, that I never looked any further into. (Should have done my own research)

Yes I do but I start to feel lethargic etc whenever I spike like this.

well around 15 minutes early as I don’t have anymore time than this.

thanks

 

[Kaylz]

I make sure to get up early so I can pre bolus for my breakfast as your more likely to be more insulin resistant in the morning, I need 25 minutes at the moment and everyone is different, there are some members that do it up to 1 hour

Fibre needs to be deducted from total carbs on American labels but the UK ones have already had it taken off

I guess if your not willing to try and pre bolus more then you could try greek yoghurt with berries and nuts etc
xx

 

[Pigeon]

A few things I have found useful...
Make a batch of crustless mini quiches (recipe on here somewhere, or Google it) in a silicone muffin pan, these can be frozen and have one or 2 each day, try different fillings such as bacon and mushroom or smoked salmon and spinach

Lizi's granola is low gi, buy when it's on offer!

Skyr yoghurt, a few berries and a sprinkling of muesli works quite well for me

Burgen bread and peanut butter

Rye bread, cream cheese and a slice of ham or smoked salmon

A few if the low carb options I found caused a later rise from the protein so after some trial and error I bolus an egg as 5g carbs, and peanut butter as 10g carbs, weird but it works!

Hope you can find something that works for you-I don't have the time to cook or pre-bolus in the morning either!

 

[Amity Island]

I have been having bran flakes, unsweetened almond milk, taking the fibre carbs off, BUT the sugar content is still spiking my levels from a waking level of 9-11 to 15-17 even with an early dose of my nova. I need alternatives, tried weetabix tried porridge, I’m a hungry gym going production line operative who needs to be full up, keep in mind that I get up at 0530 and leave for work at 0615 each day, cooking is not an option with 4 children’s lunchboxes to make too.

Hi,
Could you confirm what ratio your bolus is at 5.30 am? Mine is 1.5 per 10g carbs (no excercise planned). I have all bran with milk most mornings, take bolus 20mins before, this prevents any spikes for me.

 

[khskel]

Lizi's granola as mentioned by @Pigeon works for me. No spiking provided I pre bolus by thirty mins.

 

[rebrascora]

I've just discovered Eat Natural Granola. They are the lowest carb breakfast cereal I have found so far by a considerable amount at just 36g per 100g. The Nuts Seeds and Honey one is nice with Creamy Natural Greek Yoghurt and raspberries/blueberries. There is also a low sugar one but to be honest the honey one only has a low sugar content anyway and with a cup of coffee and cream it works well for me for breakfast.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

If you are back in range after 4-5 hours it sounds like your ratio is right, but (like me) just that you really struggle with cereals. I’ve always found ‘flakes’ particularly difficult - no matter how much fibre they claim. Weetabix was always very tricky for me too.

Seeded toast might work better, or an oat-based granola/muesli (the hint about eating with a big dollop off full fat yoghurt is a good one to try).

Many T1/exercise specialists suggest workouts pre-breakfast (so no insulin on board) but I confess I never tried that.

Hope you find something that works for you.

 

[rebrascora]

I have horses and at this time of year I have 4 to muck out which is quite strenuous activity. I am finding my morning ratio is lower than my other meals now because of this exercise post breakfast, so for 30g carbs (50g Eat Natural granola plus rasps and yoghurt) I bolus just 2 units of insulin whereas I am 1:10 the rest of the day.

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

My main issue is that I get up at the earliest possible, I have 4 children, I work 10.5 hours with one 20 minute break. I leave for work at 0615 and return home at 1800, once children’s bedtime is complete I have my evening meal, then I prep for the next day, then I go to bed 2200. Time

A few things I have found useful...
Make a batch of crustless mini quiches (recipe on here somewhere, or Google it) in a silicone muffin pan, these can be frozen and have one or 2 each day, try different fillings such as bacon and mushroom or smoked salmon and spinach

Lizi's granola is low gi, buy when it's on offer!

Skyr yoghurt, a few berries and a sprinkling of muesli works quite well for me

Burgen bread and peanut butter

Rye bread, cream cheese and a slice of ham or smoked salmon

A few if the low carb options I found caused a later rise from the protein so after some trial and error I bolus an egg as 5g carbs, and peanut butter as 10g carbs, weird but it works!

Hope you can find something that works for you-I don't have the time to cook or pre-bolus in the morning either!

This is all really good info, thankyou, I will definitely look into the quiches, I’m on a high protein relatively high fat diet, I work with 25kg sugar, 10kg fruit boxes things like that all day, (professional preserves chef) we make 1.5 TONNES of product a day at the peak of the seasons (NOW) interesting about the proteins etc though with the fact I eat 200g a day that may be making my life a little more difficult as I currently don’t count them.
Thanks again for the info.

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

Hi,
Could you confirm what ratio your bolus is at 5.30 am? Mine is 1.5 per 10g carbs (no excercise planned). I have all bran with milk most mornings, take bolus 20mins before, this prevents any spikes for me.

Hi, I’m going for 1.5 per 10g with a none sweetened almond milk and i sometimes have 100% peanut butter And I just can’t get my head around the large spike I get, with having insulin around 15 mins before. Havnt really got the time to be any earlier.

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

I have horses and at this time of year I have 4 to muck out which is quite strenuous activity. I am finding my morning ratio is lower than my other meals now because of this exercise post breakfast, so for 30g carbs (50g Eat Natural granola plus rasps and yoghurt) I bolus just 2 units of insulin whereas I am 1:10 the rest of the day.

work with 25kg sugar, 10kg fruit boxes things like that all day, (professional preserves chef) we make 1.5 TONNES of product a day at the peak of the seasons (NOW) I find myself high from 0600-1000 then I can suddenly drop like a lead balloon where it then settles nicely or nose dives down further, I just want gradual changes if you know what I mean.
thankyou for your reply and info.

 

[eggyg]

Hi @Cherrytree preserves and welcome. I can’t tolerate any cereal at all regardless of pre bolusing or ratios, like yourself porridge spikes me so much I feel lethargic and quite unwell. As you don’t have the luxury of pre bolusing ( I was exhausted just reading about your day) protein is the way forward. Just because it’s breakfast it doesn’t mean you have to have breakfast type foods. How about boiling some eggs the night before and have a couple of them with a lower calorie bread, Burgen, just over 11 grams of carbs and low GI, for example. Make yourself a cheese sandwich when you do the kids lunch boxes and eat that. Slices of cooked ham etc are all easy to grab and eat. Hope that helps a wee bit. Good luck for the rest of the season and roll on January! Elaine. 🙂

 

[Eddy Edson]

Nobody I've tried it on likes my low-carb fast b'fast, so purely FWIW: A big flat white coffee with 30g of chia seeds poured in. It's the porridge you have when you're having seeds! Huge amount of fibre, great proteins, great unsturated fats. Plus I thinks it's yummy, even if nobody else in the cosmos does.

Whether or not it does anything to yr BG would no doubt depend on what kind of milk you use in the coffee.

 

[KARNAK]

I find cereals very difficult so I have Hovis wholemeal toast with an orange or a piece of fruit afterwards. I weigh the orange to work out the carbs the toast is 11gms per slice and Bolus to suit. You have a very busy regime I was knackered just reading your post, lots of good ideas already given hope they help.

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

Hi @Cherrytree preserves and welcome. I can’t tolerate any cereal at all regardless of pre bolusing or ratios, like yourself porridge spikes me so much I feel lethargic and quite unwell. As you don’t have the luxury of pre bolusing ( I was exhausted just reading about your day) protein is the way forward. Just because it’s breakfast it doesn’t mean you have to have breakfast type foods. How about boiling some eggs the night before and have a couple of them with a lower calorie bread, Burgen, just over 11 grams of carbs and low GI, for example. Make yourself a cheese sandwich when you do the kids lunch boxes and eat that. Slices of cooked ham etc are all easy to grab and eat. Hope that helps a wee bit. Good luck for the rest of the season and roll on January! Elaine. 🙂

Thankyou for your reply, these are the kind of ideas I’m looking for, and the positive you have helps! The choices are endless with protein as the main/only food source! thanks again.

 

[Cherrytree preserves]

Nobody I've tried it on likes my low-carb fast b'fast, so purely FWIW: A big flat white coffee with 30g of chia seeds poured in. It's the porridge you have when you're having seeds! Huge amount of fibre, great proteins, great unsturated fats. Plus I thinks it's yummy, even if nobody else in the cosmos does.

Whether or not it does anything to yr BG would no doubt depend on what kind of milk you use in the coffee.

Thanks for your reply, I’m willing to give anything a go, this seems like a good shout. Will be trying this one for sure. I’m into weird and wonderful things, Thankyou.