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Parent of Teenager in need of Help!!

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Sharron - Cornwall

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Hello,
I'm new to this site, my daughter was diagnosed with type 1 aged 10 she is now 16. Her control is terrible (has been for about 2 yrs) and she has just come out of hospital after ketosis.

Are there any parents there who have been through this stage, she wont test and forgets her insulin. If I ask her to do a test/insulin she sometimes lies or just wont do it, and often shes with friends or I'm at work so I'm not aware of whats going on. When I spend my evenings running her to dr.s or at hospital until 2am and have to work the next day, Im just getting angry.

What do I do? Any GOOD advice - please.
 
Hello,
I'm new to this site, my daughter was diagnosed with type 1 aged 10 she is now 16. Her control is terrible (has been for about 2 yrs) and she has just come out of hospital after ketosis.

Are there any parents there who have been through this stage, she wont test and forgets her insulin. If I ask her to do a test/insulin she sometimes lies or just wont do it, and often shes with friends or I'm at work so I'm not aware of whats going on. When I spend my evenings running her to dr.s or at hospital until 2am and have to work the next day, Im just getting angry.

What do I do? Any GOOD advice - please.

Hi Sharron,
A warm welcome to the forum from me i have no first hand expereince on this but I hope Tina63 does not mind me mentioning her as she has had some issues with her son that sound remarklby like what your going through at the minute so hopefully she will be on soon as well as others to help you out
 
Hi Sharron, welcome to the forum 🙂 I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter's rebellion, it is a very difficult age for her to be diagnosed at with so many other pressures on her to be like her friends. Has her health care team provided any help at all - have you discussed the problems with her DSN? Does she know any other girls her age with Type 1? I would suggest joining the email list at Children With Diabetes UK - there are hundreds of UK parents there with a great deal of experience and I am sure many of them will have endured similar worries.

I'm not a parent and was diagnosed in my late 40s so can't offer any personal advice, but we have many parents who are members here who can hopefully help out.
 
Hi Sharron - like the others I can't really say a lot as I don't have any children but I was diagnosed at age 11 and found it very hard. Unfortunately there was no testing available in the 1970's apart from the inaccurate urine tests and there was not much in the way of support for anyone of whatever age. I can empathise with your anger as I too feel frustrated when I hear of young people putting their health at risk when so much is available now to help and encourage. I do feel for you. I am sure that there will be parents on here better able to help when they next come online but in the meantime if it is any reassurance my control was awful in my teenage years (through no fault of my own) and I had several episodes of ketoacidosis, yet I am still here!

I would also suggest that like you say this is a "stage" she is going through as I remember not wanting anything to do with diabetes when younger, I just let mum sort it out. It must be a huge worry to you and I do hope things soon improve. Best wishes, Karen.
 
Hello,
I'm new to this site, my daughter was diagnosed with type 1 aged 10 she is now 16. Her control is terrible (has been for about 2 yrs) and she has just come out of hospital after ketosis.

Are there any parents there who have been through this stage, she wont test and forgets her insulin. If I ask her to do a test/insulin she sometimes lies or just wont do it, and often shes with friends or I'm at work so I'm not aware of whats going on. When I spend my evenings running her to dr.s or at hospital until 2am and have to work the next day, Im just getting angry.

What do I do? Any GOOD advice - please.

Hi Sharron,
sorry to hear you have a non complient teenager. I know it doesn't help you now but rest assured many teenagers go through this stage, she will come out the other end though and stronger person. So hang in there.

Which hospital is your daughters care under, Treliske or Derriford?
Perhaps have words with her consultant and DSN, infact it might be better to write to them both cc. This way everyones singing from the same sheet.
Another option is to tell your daughter point blank she is being selfish as you can not be expected to work all hours of the day and then run around half the night for her.
2 AM hospital? leave the toad there. She can wait until the next day to be picked up would be my attitude. 😡
Going to be hard but just don't run around after her. Signs of DKA call an ambulance for her, don't visit or go with her.
 
Hi Sharron

You have my sympathy. I am in a similar position, though fortunately for me not quite so bad as my boy has never yet had ketoacidosis, though goodness knows why not. My son was diagnosed 20 months ago just days before his 16th birthday. He went along with things fine for the first 6 months and his HbA1c fell to 6.1 from a starting point of 15.8. I thought we had cracked it. It seemed pretty straightforward. Then gradually things went downhill. First of all he started skipping injections due to exams, then stopped testing, then as his excuses seemed to be accepted by his team, he skipped more and more injections and testing almost completely ceased.

By Christmas things were getting really dire, his HbA1c was over 12, and his team did try various different approaches. They changed his insulin from rapid acting to mixed insulin to help him over his reluctance to inject at school, but still he 'forgot' to inject in the evenings, and testing really has been almost non-existent for months now. Since then his HbA1c continues to hover in the 11-12.5 range, where as it was 6.1 last summer.

I'm afraid I have no answers for you, I can only empathise. My son still 'forgets' his Lantus most bedtimes, his Novorapid most evenings and only seems to 'remember' his M3 in the mornings. It isn't unusual for him to go a full 48 hours with no insulin on board whatsoever, but for some bizarre reason it really doesn't seem to affect him. Well not so that I can see anyway.

Does your daughter attend a child or adult clinic? I only ask because my son changed to the transition/adult team this last week and he has come out of it much more positively. He said how nice it was to be talked to as an adult (and he wouldn't normally talk so readily about what had gone on in there) and feels he has a new DSN he can relate to so much better. She was nearer his age and she has taken his mobile number and is going to be in contact with him regularly by the sound of it.

What sort of relationship do you have with your daughters team? Are they easily accessible? Does your daughter talk to you at all about her diabetes? My son wouldn't talk at all the past few months. Any time I mentioned anything to do with his diabetes he would go off on one at me. No-one else in the family would try talking to him. I am just now starting to see glimmers of hope that maybe he is starting to take tiny steps to coming out the other side of it (fingers crossed).

It is so hard as a mum though. I had my husband and other male members of the family telling me to back off and let him get on with it and let him accept the consequences for his actions later on, but that would break my heart if I didn't feel I had done all I could to avoid things happening to him. I did back off very seriously for some months. Things certainly didn't improve one bit, but I suppose our relationship was a little easier. As I say, just very recently he has started talking a little and he did feel his new team are 'better'.

I really am not able to advise you what to do. I do sneak a look at my son's pens most days and note the levels down. He has no idea I do that but it gives me peace of mind that I at least know what's going on. He took 100% control from day one so we never had much involvement with the actual practical side of things and he is very private and never used to discuss it with anyone. He has very recently admitted he has told a couple of people at work, so I see that as a little more acceptance on his part too. All I wait for now though it proper conformity.

How often is your daughter seen at clinic, and what insulins is she on? Have they ever tried changing hers? Though I am not really convinced about the M3 mixed insulin, at least if he has that I know it covers him for 8 hours of the day, which is better than just a relatively small dose of novorapid with breakfast then skipping all the rest of it that day.

I actually think, and it's only my opinion, that my son is actually pretty terrified of hypos and his reluctance to get his levels down too much is that he hates them so much he will go out of his way to avoid them. I have mentioned that to his old DSN on a couple of occasions but I have no idea whether they have discussed that with him as he goes into all his consultations on his own.

One more quick thought, is she doing it to lose weight? My son lost 7kg over the past 8 weeks. His team seemed pleased with that (he is a big lad) but didn't seem bothered that his HbA1c is going up and his weight is going down. To me that stinks of poor control. He is actually thrilled to be losing weight whilst seemingly not modifying his eating.

It is so hard being on this side of the fence and feeling powerless to change anything. All I can say is that you are not alone, so do keep on posting on here, if only to vent your feelings. I do hope things improve for you really soon.

Tina
 
Sharron

No advice on how to sort a teenager I am afraid, but it is a difficult area to live in. If you live in West Cornwall I would suggest you ask for him to be referred to Dr Creely who is brilliant... and also operates out of Treliske. Otherwise try to get him seen at the main diabetes clinic in Treliske, the main DSN there is very good. The care west of that can be iffy.
 
Sharron

No advice on how to sort a teenager I am afraid, but it is a difficult area to live in. If you live in West Cornwall I would suggest you ask for him to be referred to Dr Creely who is brilliant... and also operates out of Treliske. Otherwise try to get him seen at the main diabetes clinic in Treliske, the main DSN there is very good. The care west of that can be iffy.

Not to sure Patti, but at 16 the young lady would I would have thought still be under the childrens service. So Dr Creely wouldn't be available to her.
 
Difficult one. I was already diabetic when I hit my teens, & at that stage mum was dying of cancer so in a way I kind of felt I didn't have the 'luxury' of teen rebellion - there was too much hitting the fan already. I think the bottom line was I didn't think dad would cope. Later on I didn't want my diabetes to hold md back, so I more or less took the decision it was damn well going to work for me, not unduly hamper me.

I don't know what your relationship with your daughter is like, but could you sit down & have a heart to heart with her? Explain the impact of her behaviour on you, it's likely ultimate consequences (poss losing your job) & what that will mean in return for Her? (No cash, luxury stuff, nice things etc etc)?? Alternatively is there a way of engaging her by making compliance in her interests? (ie is she into outdoors stuff? - ie I can't let you do X til I know you're being safe & responsible etc? Or anything like that I guess? (want driving lessons next year? Prove you can control diabetes before trying to control a car then!)

I guess all of this will depend on how you guys relate & respond to each other. If you are concerned that she's abusing her insulin regime to lose weight though I'd get in touch with DWED (see Northerner's signature line!) - diabetics with eating disorders. That's a road you really don't want to go far along.

All the best, I really feel for both of you. Xxx
 
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I remember the very quick end to my rebellion 😱
I wanted to go on a school trip with my school mates. Mum gave me a look of absolute amazement..... Then dropped the bomb shell.


No you can not go, you are nothing but a baby and I can not trust you to carb count and do your injections without having to be told all the time.😱

A compromise was made which was the trip was 6 weeks away and I had to show in that 6 weeks I had grown up enough to look after myself. I was also told that if I stepped out of line during the week away then it was the last trip I went on.

I was never non compliant regarding injections all through my diabetes life just had to be prodded a lot 😱
 
Hey sorry to hear about everything going on right now, i'm 18 and have had diabetes for 11years, i may be able to offer her some advice if you'd like? or yourself some advice? more than willing to help 🙂
 
I can't offer any advice, but welcome to the forum, there have been lots of replies and ideas, so hopefully something will work.

Once children reach the teenage years they are starting to get grown up and finding their feet and not testing or taking their medication in what ever form is them trying to be independent and a form of rebellion. Although my grown up son is not diabetic, he went through the rebelious stage of finding his feet and making his mark. He grew up and can be quite sensible now, so there is hope. It is natural to worry about our children and their health, but things do improve in time.
 
Hi Sharron, my name is Chelsea im sixteen and have just been diagonsed with type one diabetes, i just wanted to say i sort of know what your daughter might be going through, being a teenager myself you feel like saying to everyone "why me?" all i needed was for someone to understand what it is like to have diabetes maybe thats all she needs someone to talk to, im sure you would do anything for your daughter like every parent would just let her know your there to talk i guess 🙂 i hope this helps
 
Hi Sharron - again not a parent, but i have had my fair share of rebellions against my diabetes.
Can't imagine what it's like for you, but i can empathise with your daughter.
Is she aware of the damage she's doing to herself? During my last rebellion my doctor said something which really hit home, she asked me how i'd feel if by the time there was a cure for diabetes i'd looked after myself that poorly that id lost my eyesight, or had a foot amputated. I'd be losing one disability only to be stuck with another. It's a little blunt, some may even say tactless. But it really struck a chord with me that i wanted to be in perfect condition for if and when the time comes for a cure. Maybe it'll do the same for her?
Emma 🙂
 
I remember the very quick end to my rebellion 😱
I wanted to go on a school trip with my school mates. Mum gave me a look of absolute amazement..... Then dropped the bomb shell.


No you can not go, you are nothing but a baby and I can not trust you to carb count and do your injections without having to be told all the time.😱

A compromise was made which was the trip was 6 weeks away and I had to show in that 6 weeks I had grown up enough to look after myself. I was also told that if I stepped out of line during the week away then it was the last trip I went on.

I was never non compliant regarding injections all through my diabetes life just had to be prodded a lot 😱


....if there was a 'like' button I would have hit it reading this post Sue......however what better incentive than showing pictures of amputations, blindness etc as a result of poor control? Harsh, ruthless... but maybe effective?
 
....if there was a 'like' button I would have hit it reading this post Sue......however what better incentive than showing pictures of amputations, blindness etc as a result of poor control? Harsh, ruthless... but maybe effective?

I'm not sure - do/did such things ever work to stop people smoking or drinking? Human beings seem to have such a strong propensity to believe it will never happen to them :(
 
....if there was a 'like' button I would have hit it reading this post Sue......however what better incentive than showing pictures of amputations, blindness etc as a result of poor control? Harsh, ruthless... but maybe effective?

Thanks Phil, the incentive did the trick for me, even though I didn't realise it was an insentive at the time. I was furious because I had been called a baby, but being shown amputations and being told this will happen to you, would have the opposit effect on me.
I would have said why bother it's going to happen anyway?
Obviously it hasn't happened to me as 47 yrs later I am complication free 🙂

My Mum always had the attitude you help yourself and we (Mum and Dad) would help as much as we can.
 
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....if there was a 'like' button I would have hit it reading this post Sue......however what better incentive than showing pictures of amputations, blindness etc as a result of poor control? Harsh, ruthless... but maybe effective?

Ok it has been 13 years since I was a teenager but rebelious till I was 29. When you are a teenager you feel. 'yeah but that wont happen to me.' The only thing that worked for me was being diagnosed with retinopathy and the opthalmolgist advising I was very close to needing lazer surgory. Now very well controlled HbA1c of 6.4 practice DSN says best she's seen.

Marc
 
Hiya

Oh dear this is always so sad when I hear stories like this. I just feel for these children, I really do.

There are other parents going through this as well (as Tina has said) and you can find lots on the email groups for CWD. There is a teenage group you can join or the main mailing list. Send an email and you will get lots of answers, some will be helpful, some not so maybe. www.childrenwithdiabetesuk.org all the email groups are on there.

On facebook there is a parents of t1 teens group as well. Happy if you want to friend me (Adrienne Burton) and I'll join you up to it if you want.

:(
 
Hope this helps

Hello there,
I've just joined this forum because I saw your post and it reminded me so much of me and wanted to offer some possible advice on your situation with your daughter.
I've had Diabetes since August 1982 and Iwas born in April 1981 so I've had Diabetes now for 30 years.
It was quite difficult growing up being normally the only Diabetic people knew.
At primary school i was the only person out of about 5 - 600 pupils and staff in the school and not alot was known in those days i got alot of special treatment which in turn segregated me from my friends and other children, making me feel freakish.
In secondary school it was alot easier as it was more common, there was at least one other Diabetic in my year and I did not feel segregated from my friends as I was able to make better decisions on my control without as much support, however it was there if needed.
When I was 16, exactly the same age as your daughter, I forgot one of my injections in the evening (I take two a day, morning and evening).
I didn't suffer from this forgetting how I used when I was younger,because i felt ok (normal for a change) so i didn't think it would be a major problem not doing that one so it went on for about 6 months. I was lieing to the doctors for a number of years not checking my blood sugars somewhat getting away with it, which worried my mum as you are, but I'm sure they saw through me.
The reason I'm telling you this is so you can maybe relate to how your daughter might be feeling.
Also if you explain the next bit to your daughter she may realise what she may miss out on if she doesn't start looking after herself.
When you're 16 the next major milestone in anybodies life is learning how to drive.
I applied for my provisional licence just before reaching 17 but it was refused because i'd had two hospitalisations within a matter of months coming out of one on my 17th birthday but when they checked my records it obviously showed up because they're not quick at the DVLA, I then had to wait for a further two years before i received it and that was before learning passing etc. I cried many tears over it thankfully now I have my licence because i stopped bending the rules.
It didn't stop at that though I fell pregnant and unfortunately lost a baby because i didn't check my sugar level as regular as i should I crashed my car after having a hypo at 22 weeks which was difficult. It was only then it hit home what everyone had been saying.
It is very hard dealing with Diabetes when all you want is to be like anyone else, that your daughter is, she just doesn't realise it yet growing up is bad enough for any teenager without the added complication of Diabetes.
I'm a mum now of a 6 year old that thankfully doesn't have Diabetes but can understand how hard it must've been for my mum.
Try not to be angry with your daughter as hard as it may be she will come good in the end it may just take time just be supportive and remind her of things she may miss out on if she doesn't change her ways.
I learnt unfortunately the hard way.
Sorry if it's a bit long winded
 
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