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Bill Stewardson

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Hello to all.

I'm new to all this, bread and spuds have been the fundamentals of my food for nearing 58 years, now it seems they have to go.

I found out yesterday that I have T2. So, having read through the posts on here, the stuff you all have is strange to me.

How much fat/carbs per meal should I be looking to consume ? What replaces spuds on your plates ? Sorry if this is a question your all fed up of.

Bill.
 
Hi Bill, welcome to the group, sorry about your DX but you are not alone....

Personally I follow the advice of cut or reduce Bread, Rice, Pasta, Cereals & starchy vegetables, replacing them with green leafy vegetables grown above ground

As for the Fat/Carbs, it depends on your goals, I follow a low-carb diet so daily I have perhaps between 10 & 50 carbs... I don't count the fat just use quality fats (typically saturated fats from animal sources or Extra Virgin from plant sources)
 
Thanks Martin.

Drs gave me a booklet called "Diabetes Educational Pack" within which it says "base meals on starchy foods such as bread,pasta,potatoes, rice " etc.

This puzzles me given the contents of the threads in here.

I want to do the right thing ?

Bill.
 
Thanks Martin.

Drs gave me a booklet called "Diabetes Educational Pack" within which it says "base meals on starchy foods such as bread,pasta,potatoes, rice " etc.

This puzzles me given the contents of the threads in here.

I want to do the right thing ?

Bill.

Its a minefield when you start off on this journey Bill but it will get better once you start to understand things, I was the same and to be honest life without potato, pasta, rice and bread just the thought of it had me stressed and worried, After a couple of weeks on low carb I now dont miss it, I eat high protein rolls and Bergen Bread but I've not touched pasta and potato now for getting on for 2 months.

There were two things that helped me get started in understanding things, One was the great folks on this foum and the other was buying a blood glucose tester.

It is difficult at first and confusing to say the least but dont hold back on the questions as there are so many folks who can help.

Good luck with it all 🙂
 
Many thanks

Bill.
 
Drs gave me a booklet called "Diabetes Educational Pack" within which it says "base meals on starchy foods such as bread,pasta,potatoes, rice " etc.

This puzzles me given the contents of the threads in here.

I want to do the right thing ?
To be honest, the medical community is so out of touch it's not even funny..... Carbs are what got us into this mess; recommending carbs & medication is just folly.

9 months of experimentation led me to the low carb route, becoming frustrated with high BG for seemingly healthy meals & hypos due to the Glyburide I was taking at the time. as time progressed I turned away from the major sources of carbs, after going low carb I quit the Glyburide & have had outstanding results for the last 15 months with FBG (fasting blood glucose) tending to be around 5.0 most mornings.
As a community, we are so much more in tune with daily living with D; we live it every day... We are in touch with our bodies in the way that the medical profession is not. Many of us test regularly (against the advice of the medical community), this testing empowers us to control this disease on a daily basis rather than waiting for the next HbA1c test to confirm whether we got it right for the last 3 months or not.

How low carb you go is up to you, research it. Many opt for 100+ for the day, some of us opt for much lower. Our individual responses vary, each community member (and their bodies) is different though united by a common disease.

Sorry to give you a vague answer but you alone can only tell whether your diet is working for you, we can only help & advise (hence the narrative about my personal journey)
 
Martin, not vague at all and many thanks.

Obviously those with D are much better placed to give good advice.
It staggers me how polar the NHS and D sufferers are in views.
I was diagnosed last week, and still have no idea what to get in for tea !!

Seems to me that those with D should be the ones formulating guidelines.

Bill.
 
Hello Kay

Yes I looked at that thread, most of the stuff in it Ive never heard of ! Then again, I am just a thick northerner living on the side of a hill in Yorkshire.

I went to Asda yesterday to buy the correct stuff, they don't even have sugar free cordials.I did get granary bread and tinned salmon and cottage cheese, generally I was a bit lost as to what to get.
My main meal consisted of cottage cheese and salmon with turkey bacon.
That went nowhere near filling me.
It does not help when the booklet my GPS gave me says eat lots of bread, spuds and starch, which the experienced people in here say do not do.

Anyway, I am following the advice here, trying to put together a shopping list is a bit of a challenge.

Bill.
 
The thing is though there is not a one size fits all. What some can tolerate others can't.
 
Celeriac mashed with plenty butter, even some grated cheese through it, is quite a good alternative for mashed potato. You can also par boil and roast like ordinary roasters. Alternative to spaghetti or noodles is butter squash and courgette, bought ready spiralled ( Sainsbury's) or get a wee gadget from Amazon to do it yourself. For example last night I had a pan fried sea bass fillet on top a bed of courgette/butternut squash mixture, covered wth a wee drop of single cream and mushroom sauce, with a few roasted veg on the side. Delicious, filling and not much effect on my Blood Glucose. As others suggest, get a monitor and check out what foods are ok. With a bit of effort and imagination you can conjure up dishes which you thought might be condemned with a diabetes diagnosis.
 
As I'm type 1 I don't feel at all comfortable advising you but there are many type 2's that will be able to you don't have to entirely cut out things like potatoes etc but testing is the only way to tell if they work for you, try them out by reducing the portion size first, if you like Yorkshire puddings and have a Tesco near by they have a 12 pack of their own brand for £1 and each Yorkshire pudding only has 6.5g carbs and as they have fat it slows the spike, I usually have some meat usually chicken, pork loin steaks, 3 sausages ( some sausages can be very carby so always check the label) or I have a piece of fish with vegetables usually being things like asparagus, pak choi, beansprouts, broccoli, cauliflower etc and then have 2 Yorkshire puddings or 100g boiled jersey royals x
 
Hi Bill,

I was DX in April and was given very similar information from DNS as you. I got myself a BG test kit (against their advice) and ate healthy, without the reduction of carbs as I was only told to "watch out for sugar". My BG levels didn't improve. I found this site and followed the advice of the low carb approach and found that it started to make a difference. With testing , i found that anything lower than 15g of carbs per meal worked for me (depending on what the food is - i have eaten Sunday roast and calculated at over 30g, and was fine???). Luckily i enjoy cooking, so don't mind the experiments and my family are very supportive and are also enjoying the low carb meals. i have managed to drop around a stone in weight in around 6 weeks which can only help the situation. I find breakfast is the hardest meal to sort out, but I have found that Greek Yogurt with berries and flaxseed sees me through till lunch.

The people on here are brilliant and very patient and are happy to help with any kind of question. Good Luck
 
Hi. At first It can be very confusing esp about what and what not to eat.
Without regular testing before and two hours after meals, you really won't know how your body copes with certain foods, because sadly we all react differently, ie I can eat porridge, others have to avoid it like the plague also it would not be polite for me to say on here , what I think of the dietary advise that is often handed out to us by some in the NHS . I was diagnosed back in the early 90s it was well understood then that carbs were a diabetics enemy.

As for what to eat, if you eat meat , it's fine as are high meat content sausages ( black farmer and heck sausages are nice) high meat content burgers, eggs cooked anyway you like, cheese, mushrooms, non starchy veg, a couple of new potatoes, fish esp oily, butter, cream, some nuts are not high in carbs. Some here make cauliflower rice to go with their Indian curry.
Personally I do not do low fat, if it's not naturally low fat I won't have it, ie I go for full fat yogurt rather than low fat. Often foods made to be low fat have more carbs in them than the normal version.

Cordials, do you mean squash? If so try looking for the diet ones, Robinsons ones are nice.

Many here use the Codefree meter available from Amazon or directly from Homehealth , it is the cheapest on to self fund the ongoing cost of the test strips . But do see if you can persuade your gp/nurse to prescribe a meter first.
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
We use the mmol/l measurement in the uk and you're entitled to claim vat relief.
 
Hi. At first It can be very confu
Hi. At first It can be very confusing esp about what and what not to eat.
Without regular testing before and two hours after meals, you really won't know how your body copes with certain foods, because sadly we all react differently, ie I can eat porridge, others have to avoid it like the plague also it would not be polite for me to say on here , what I think of the dietary advise that is often handed out to us by some in the NHS . I was diagnosed back in the early 90s it was well understood then that carbs were a diabetics enemy.

As for what to eat, if you eat meat , it's fine as are high meat content sausages ( black farmer and heck sausages are nice) high meat content burgers, eggs cooked anyway you like, cheese, mushrooms, non starchy veg, a couple of new potatoes, fish esp oily, butter, cream, some nuts are not high in carbs. Some here make cauliflower rice to go with their Indian curry.
Personally I do not do low fat, if it's not naturally low fat I won't have it, ie I go for full fat yogurt rather than low fat. Often foods made to be low fat have more carbs in them than the normal version.

Cordials, do you mean squash? If so try looking for the diet ones, Robinsons ones are nice.

Many here use the Codefree meter available from Amazon or directly from Homehealth , it is the cheapest on to self fund the ongoing cost of the test strips . But do see if you can persuade your gp/nurse to prescribe a meter first.
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
We use the mmol/l measurement in the uk and you're entitled to claim vat relief.

sing esp about what and what not to eat.
Without regular testing before and two hours after meals, you really won't know how your body copes with certain foods, because sadly we all react differently, ie I can eat porridge, others have to avoid it like the plague also it would not be polite for me to say on here , what I think of the dietary advise that is often handed out to us by some in the NHS . I was diagnosed back in the early 90s it was well understood then that carbs were a diabetics enemy.

As for what to eat, if you eat meat , it's fine as are high meat content sausages ( black farmer and heck sausages are nice) high meat content burgers, eggs cooked anyway you like, cheese, mushrooms, non starchy veg, a couple of new potatoes, fish esp oily, butter, cream, some nuts are not high in carbs. Some here make cauliflower rice to go with their Indian curry.
Personally I do not do low fat, if it's not naturally low fat I won't have it, ie I go for full fat yogurt rather than low fat. Often foods made to be low fat have more carbs in them than the normal version.

Cordials, do you mean squash? If so try looking for the diet ones, Robinsons ones are nice.

Many here use the Codefree meter available from Amazon or directly from Homehealth , it is the cheapest on to self fund the ongoing cost of the test strips . But do see if you can persuade your gp/nurse to prescribe a meter first.
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
We use the mmol/l measurement in the uk and you're entitled to claim vat relief.
 
Many thanks Ljc,

One side says no carbs, other side swears by them.
I see my nurse next week and will push for a testing device, or I will buy one.

It does annoy me that you are given advice from the NHS which seemingly is utterly wrong. Now I am permanently hungry along with permanently tired, one way or the other I will suss all this out.

Bill.
 
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If you're hungry have a huge steak or lamb chop with your usual veg ie cabbage or sprouts and a small serving of new potatoes. You won't be hungry on that! If you don't have to lose weight then you shouldn't have to go hungry, that's not right. Mention to the docs that you're feeling tired. If they don't give you a meter get a Codefree from ebay. Also try that Burgen bread, I think it's from Lidl. I've never tried it but others swear by it and it would fill you up with best butter on. Have a bowl of strawberries and cream for afters. Test test test. 🙂
 
The Burgen bread is available in the like of Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury's etc but some people do have trouble with that too, Lidl do a protein roll that many of the members enjoy although I've tried neither of these myself as Ditto says if you fill up on non carby stuff you shouldn't be too hungry and even try snacking on cheese, cold meats and nuts etc unless of course you have an allergy!! lol x
 
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