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I have a 'frozen shoulder' and have had an op to fix it - it didnt work so saw consultant today. He asked was i diabetic - i told him no and asked why - he said that out of all the patients he treats (he is a surgeon) 20% of them dont work and its normally because they are diabetic - and also that there is a link between 'frozen shoulder' and diabetes!
How odd? He said there is research being done at the moment regarding it - have any of you experienced having a 'frozen shoulder'?🙂Bev
 
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My mum has a frozen shoulder. She was diagnosed the same year as me. Jan 1993. Had manipulation under anesthetic. Worked for a while but not gr8 at moment. However was taking statins and since coming off them claims she is 100% better. So not sure if down to statins or a frozen shoulder. I had a really bad car accident number of years ago. Left me with constant pain in left shoulder. Again, been put to me by consultant that not sure if due to accident or some problem caused by diabetes. Seems wierd reading these threads. Always felt as though it was just me falling to bits.
 
I've suffered from frozen shoulder in the past, and still get pain from it every now and then, very very painful! I had heard of it being more common in diabetics.
 
Have u seen a physio Bev? In my experience the term 'frozen shoulder' is used too readily and is not always the correct diagnosis.

Has ur movement not improved with the surgery? Did they try injections/physio/medication?

I did a presentation at work on it last year and the research is even more veried than that for diabetes!! From what I have read it is thought that high sugars can affect the bodies collagen function and damaged blood vessels can affect the elastic properties of soft tissue. Im unsure how correct this is as the research contradicts each other.
 
There was a thread about this here a while ago and there's quite a bit of anecdotal stuff on the net. I've had problems with my left shoulder for some time, but put it down to the fact that I was twisting to inject at the top of my hip, round the back (if you can picture that - or maybe you'd rather not!😱). Having then to press down on the pen button put a strain on the muscles in my shoulder.

Having said that, I stopped injecting there quite some time ago, but still have the pain. It's a muscular pain, rather than a pain in the joint, and my GP said it was not frozen shoulder. Maybe it's the statins, I've heard they can cause muscular and joint pain.
 
janine19 said:
Have u seen a physio Bev? In my experience the term 'frozen shoulder' is used too readily and is not always the correct diagnosis.

Has ur movement not improved with the surgery? Did they try injections/physio/medication?

I did a presentation at work on it last year and the research is even more veried than that for diabetes!! From what I have read it is thought that high sugars can affect the bodies collagen function and damaged blood vessels can affect the elastic properties of soft tissue. Im unsure how correct this is as the research contradicts each other.
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Hi Janine,
I had a manual manipulation and steroid injections in December - and regained about 60% movement (previously couldnt even move arm) - but never regained any movement for putting arm up my back etc.. even after 10 lots of physio! So having it done again in a couple of weeks - hopefully i will regain more movement! Bev
 
Hi Bev, I was surprised to find out about the link between frozen shoulder and diabetes as I had one before 3 years before I was diagnosed and no one checked my blood glucose then. I was advised that even with all the physio, ultrasound, exercises and cortisone injections it would take up to two years to sort itself out - as long as I kept doing the exercises. 4 years on it is still not as flexible as I recall it once was but that may be age but no pain or discomfort after about 18 months
 
Before this thread I had only heard of a "cold shoulder".

(don't worry, i'm hanging my head in shame)
 
Hi bev i have a frozen shoulder i have had problems with it since may last year and i am due to have an operation to try and fix it next tuesday. I am not in constant pain just every so often it gets really painful will let you know how i get on.
 
katie said:
Before this thread I had only heard of a "cold shoulder".

(don't worry, i'm hanging my head in shame)
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I am always getting them..... :D
 
I was thought it was funny when I saw this link as I spent six hours in Accident and Emergency on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning in absolute agony with my arm. It was the worse flare up that I'd had so far of frozen shoulder and ended up with various painkillers my mouth and injected together with a local anaesthetic inject into two parts of shoulder. Been on three lots of painkillers and anti-inflammatory gel since then and it is now manageable - but spent Wednesday and Thursday in an absolutely zombified state because of all of the painkillers. Been told today that I need to keep on taking the three lots plus gel whilst they chase up other treatments e.g. phsyio, referral to orthopaedic person etc. Very frustrated because I can't concentrate on anything because of the painkillers and had to be signed off work which is extremely annoying thing
Trying to be positive I've completely lost my appetite so should hopefully lose some weight!!😱
 
bev said:
I have a 'frozen shoulder' and have had an op to fix it - it didnt work so saw consultant today. He asked was i diabetic - i told him no and asked why - he said that out of all the patients he treats (he is a surgeon) 20% of them dont work and its normally because they are diabetic - and also that there is a link between 'frozen shoulder' and diabetes!
How odd? He said there is research being done at the moment regarding it - have any of you experienced having a 'frozen shoulder'?🙂Bev
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I have had problems with one of my shoulders for over 10 years now. the docs were so unsympathetic to it i gave up asking about it. It comes and goes, dont know if its frozen shoulder but at times is so painful and have to take painkillers for it. I have read somewhere since that you can have this problem being diabetic but i dont think there is any real "evidence" as such. Interesting though 🙄
 
ok i'm getting scared that I going to have a "frozen shoulder" at some point. It sounds painful and irritating!
 
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