Not that high glucose after meals but remains that way all day

[Hank_The_Tank]

Hey.
I believe i am in pre-diabetic state, or have some sort of insulin resistance or something. Anyways, my blood glucose is within good ranges after eating, 1 hours and 3 hours after eating. Its basically around 115 already at 1-2 hour mark after eating even if i eat a lot of sugar and bad foods. Whats weird is that its around 100 even in the morning, some times even as high as 108-110 fasted. It looks like it doesnt ever go really up, but it also rarely comes down.
Well it does go down, if i am in a caloric deficit and im actually losing weight, which i am not trying to do, since i am in professional sports and i actually need to keep my weight up. Is this some sort of condition or something i should learn about? Why is it so?

p.s - past some point, i also cant gain weight... i went up as high as 7000kcal a day, and i just got head aches and really bad feeling, but i couldnt gain a gram of weight no more. My coach says i might have some insulin resistance or smth, so the food doesnt really go anywhere because of that? Is that a thing?

 

[Lily123]

Welcome to the forum

The units we use to measure BG are mmol/l rather than mg/dl which yours are in.
100 is about 5.5 mmol/l and 110 is about 6.1 mmol/l. These are in range

With the weight, what sports do you play?

 

[Dragonheart]

Hey.
I believe i am in pre-diabetic state, or have some sort of insulin resistance or something. Anyways, my blood glucose is within good ranges after eating, 1 hours and 3 hours after eating. Its basically around 115 already at 1-2 hour mark after eating even if i eat a lot of sugar and bad foods. Whats weird is that its around 100 even in the morning, some times even as high as 108-110 fasted. It looks like it doesnt ever go really up, but it also rarely comes down.
Well it does go down, if i am in a caloric deficit and im actually losing weight, which i am not trying to do, since i am in professional sports and i actually need to keep my weight up. Is this some sort of condition or something i should learn about? Why is it so?

p.s - past some point, i also cant gain weight... i went up as high as 7000kcal a day, and i just got head aches and really bad feeling, but i couldnt gain a gram of weight no more. My coach says i might have some insulin resistance or smth, so the food doesnt really go anywhere because of that? Is that a thing?

Your fasted figures are in the normal range. And remember meters are not precise and have a 15% margin of error so those morning readings could easily all be much the same in reality.

Being back there within an hour or so does not imply insulin resistance as those of us that are type 2 take longer to return to normal unless we chose very wisely what we eat.

If you do a lot of sports then that might mean you get regular dumps of glucose to fuel you (which you then burn off). The exercise also might be why you struggle to gain weight. Some people just don’t accumulate a lot of fat for a number of reasons. Type 2 (of which insulin resistance/prediabetes is the precursor) does not prevent you gaining weight at all, in fact quite the opposite. A type 1 untreated might lose weight or someone with severe type 2 but nothing at all is suggesting you are either to me. (I’m not a dr and that isn’t medical advice to be clear)

What are you/your coach thinking you should be seeing?

If you are concerned ask your dr to run an hba1c test to check the overall effect of your levels over the last 12 weeks or so.

 

[Hank_The_Tank]

These are in range

Yes, but they are a bit over the norm. Like 10% over but still. Im just starting to look into it as soon as i can.

With the weight, what sports do you play?

I am a professional fighter and instructor, and i also do powerlifting. So i am around 115kgs at 190cm, with abs. I am concerned about diabetes now, because of my use of growth hormone and insulin for some periods of time, etc. I have no problem doing insulin for the rest of my life, i just wanna know - at what point am i considered actually sick. For now im just collecting info and readings, to know whats up. 2ius of Humalog set me way deep in good ranges.

nothing at all is suggesting you are either to me

Yea, i think so also, but im just collecting info before i get stuck with a diagnose. I just want to know how bad is it. My readings put me in "pre-diabetes" chart tho. The super low end, but still.

 

[Lily123]

The normal range for non diabetics is 4 to 6 mmol/l before eating and below 8 mmol/l two hours after (Not 100%, but seems a reliable source)

Like @HSSS said with meters having a give or take of potentially up to 15% those figures would most likely be normal

 

[Dragonheart]

Yes, but they are a bit over the norm. Like 10% over but still. Im just starting to look into it as soon as i can.


I am a professional fighter and instructor, and i also do powerlifting. So i am around 115kgs at 190cm, with abs. I am concerned about diabetes now, because of my use of growth hormone and insulin for some periods of time, etc. I have no problem doing insulin for the rest of my life, i just wanna know - at what point am i considered actually sick. For now im just collecting info and readings, to know whats up. 2ius of Humalog set me way deep in good ranges.


Yea, i think so also, but im just collecting info before i get stuck with a diagnose. I just want to know how bad is it. My readings put me in "pre-diabetes" chart tho. The super low end, but still.

A meter can vary from one to another. Some reading a fair bit higher than others. It is simply not a diagnostic tool.

See your dr and please disclose your use of insulin and growth hormones. Whilst there is a risk it might earn you a well deserved lecture it is essential they know what’s happening in order to interpret any results and give advice about what it means for your future health so you can make informed decisions.

I have no idea personally about the effects of using these unprescribed drugs but as a diabetic that had little choice in the matter if you’re willing to risk inducing diabetes unnecessarily you’re mad. Taking insulin as a type 2 diabetic does not make all the problems go away. Far from it. A type 2 using drugs to try and overcome insulin resistance gets worse over time. A drug managed type 2 might deteriorate more slowly than a totally unmanaged one but it still happens. That’s why they call it a progressive disease. The alternate is to try and recreate a non diabetic state via diet, and that’s work and a constant effort and not guaranteed to be as good as non diabetic for all. Your body, your choice but make sure you fully understand the long term repercussions of your choices.

 

[Saoirse]

Am I correct in understanding you are using insulin and possibly growth hormones without medical supervision? This is incredibly unwise. If you are concerned about diabetes then please see a doctor before you do yourself damage. Actually, just please talk to an actual medical professional

 

[Hank_The_Tank]

without medical supervision?

Of course, since using those is illegal, but i make 100% of my living by winning competitive sports, where everyone uses everything. I know this is not the place to get understanding about what it takes to support your life by actually beating up people on steroids, but that is not the actual point. Managing side effects and risks of these performance enhancing drugs is a huge part of the job. Its not like anyone just takes em. It takes decades of knowledge, study and experiments. At this point im just interested how my readings would be interpreted by people who have diabetes.

I also live in a third world country, so what might seem a simple fix in UK, doesnt really work in a place where doctors got their education in a shady school system.

 

[Leadinglights]

The readings you are getting would not give people a diagnosis of diabetes and if they had been diagnosed because their blood glucose levels had been higher and they were then getting what you are that would indicate they were now in normal range.
In the UK diagnosis and monitoring of peoples status is normally done by an HbA1C test which gives the average over the previous 3 months.
The readings you are doing are spot tests and people do test to monitor the effect foods have on their blood glucose so they can make better food choices to manage their diabetes or prediabetes if that is what they are diagnosed as having.
As mentioned in the UK the units used are mmol/l but you can convert from mg/dl by dividing by 18 or vice versa.
People would expect 4-7 mmol/l fasting/morning reading and no more than 8mmol/l 2 hours after eating.
Don't forget people on this forum are not medically qualified and are therefore unable to give medical advice but can only comment from personal experience.
I would however say using insulin if not diabetic is extremely risky.