Not everyone wants a 'normal' Christmas if it means a harsher lockdown to come

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Binge in December, purge in January.

Or at least, that’s the way Britain normally does Christmas: a brief splurge of shopping, partying and stuffing our faces, before waddling into new year skint, hungover and carrying an extra half a stone. Boris Johnson is clearly a stickler for tradition, to judge from early briefings about a superspreader Yule in which up to three households could be allowed to mingle for up to five days and to hell with the consequences for intensive care units. But is a big blowout, paid for by yet more lockdown when the R number inevitably surges, really what we want this year?

January is horrible enough as it is: a season of divorce lawyers, diets and regrets. But to afford a “normal” Christmas with all the trimmings this year, it’s going to be January for months. Next week we’re likely to emerge from the current lockdown into a stricter version of the tiered semi-lockdowns that were in force before it, and stay there or thereabouts until a critical mass of Britons are vaccinated. With luck, that might mean March.

The government reportedly expected to face a “mutiny of mums” if it didn’t unlock for December, but an Opinium poll for this weekend’s Observer found over half of the public would rather have a locked-down Christmas with fewer restrictions, with broad agreement across demographics. All the way through this pandemic, a government whose own instincts tend to the libertarian have consistently assumed the nation to be more gung ho than it actually is, and I suspect may have done so again.

 
Nobody is forcing anyone to meet up at Christmas.
If more than half of the population are that worried about it, they can continue with their own personal lockdown. Nobody is stopping them.
Intensive care units will cope and we still have the nightingale hospitals to fall back on.

It's about time people stopped blaming the government for everything and took some personal responsibility. We should be capable of exercising our own judgment on safety and shouldn't need to be spoonfed by a group of out-of-touch millionaires in the cabinet.
 
During World Wars sacrifices were made at Christmas, loved ones away fighting food shortages even basics in short supply, people didn't moan they just got on with it & made most of what they had.

Government would be wrong to relax things for sake of one day, virus needs controlled & until mas vaccination is possible then mixing should be restricted, anyway many people will be pleased not to entertain relatives over festivities,
 
Sporting events fan restrictions are to be relaxed. Up to 4000 fans will be allowed to attend football matches etc. Not sure of the timescales but I think it's when lockdown ends and areas go to tier 2.
About time. We simply cannot go on cowering under the bedsheets from this thing.
 
I think the majority of people are taking responsibility, and will make decisions about V=Christmas based on their perceived risks.
I disagree with the comment we are "cowering under the bedsheets from this thing."
 
I am not convinced people are being responsible, I sat in the car while my husband popped in to Sainsbury's yesterday to buy some parsnips. The car park was heaving and nearly every car had more one person going in and coming out of the store.
 
This year it'll be at least half normal. You'll be stuck somewhere over Christmas. Just not with family. 🙂 We need a good lock down to avoid being stuck with family. Unless you're living with them 😳
Nobody is forcing anyone to meet up at Christmas.
If more than half of the population are that worried about it, they can continue with their own personal lockdown. Nobody is stopping them.
Try telling my family that. Attending is always required!
 
I thought people would be happy to not have relatives visiting so they could do their own thing for one year🙂
 
Our immediate family ( children/ partners/ grandchildren) is four households and 12 bodies. We decided as a family back in September that we would all spend Christmas at our respective homes. Our eldest daughter, she has three children and lives on a farm an hour’s drive away, is actually relieved she said as she finds it really stressful getting the kids organised and feeding all the animals and prepping the Christmas meal before going out to “ visit”, as I did back in the day as a parent of three children. I think the plan will be for us to visit our daughters and grandchildren individually, unwrap presents and go! Just because Boris says we can doesn’t mean we have to!
 
I came across this today, makes a point I don't hear being made much, but perhaps ought to be.

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I saw something the other day which made perfect sense to me. Someone defiantly said they WERE visiting their elderly parents as it could be their last Christmas. Someone retorted they WEREN’T visiting their elderly parents so it wasn’t their last Christmas.
 
I saw something the other day which made perfect sense to me. Someone defiantly said they WERE visiting their elderly parents as it could be their last Christmas. Someone retorted they WEREN’T visiting their elderly parents so it wasn’t their last Christmas.
To be fair, the person who made that retort had no business doing so.
People are entitled to make their own decisions and I'm sure elderly relatives will be part of that process and can make their own minds up without strangers judging them.
 
Just been on the phone with my mum. She's already starting getting onto me about going to her's and stopping. And it's Not Even DECEMBER Yet.
"Awwww Ralph..."
 
Well frankly much as I miss the little ones when they decide to be delightful, one has to say that very often they don't wake up that morning in that frame of mind, and there is very good reason why the human female body is designed to bear children only when it is young!!!

This Great Grandma and Grandpa are actually quite looking forward to an Xmas Day eating food they have chosen and drinking whatever they'd like to drink as Grandad hasn't got to drive anywhere, at the time it suits them, then watching the telly progs they want to watch, thanks very much. They need make no provision for anyone not liking tomatoes, baked beans, trifle sponges in trifle, booze in ditto, smoked salmon or anything else we like and others don't. If I can remember how to cook it of course .. where on earth can I get beef fillet or bone-in rib these days? LOL
 
My sons turned 18 last week and he had lived with me half of the time,but I've decided not to see him for a few months as he has a 7 year old sister at his mothers house who is at school and I see that as a risk factor for the virus being carried to our home via my son.If it takes me 6 months not to see him to keep my mother and myself safe,I will do that.It's not a long time,and it's not worth the risk to my mother who is bedbound with dementia.One Christmas is certainly not the end of the world to miss
 
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We simply cannot go on cowering under the bedsheets from this thing.
I'd rather be under a temporary bed sheet than under a permanent shroud. 🙂
 
I'd rather be under a temporary bed sheet than under a permanent shroud. 🙂
I'd rather die a free man taking my chances with covid than stay alive cowering under the bedsheets for months and possibly years. 🙂
Actually it would be very interesting to know what proportion of the population have that same view. I'm not persuaded by polls suggesting majority support for lockdown. I suspect there's a silent majority who are done with this thing and want all restrictions removed now but don't want to admit that to pollsters.
 
I'd rather die a free man taking my chances with covid than stay alive cowering under the bedsheets for months and possibly years.
But it wouldn't be that. We know things get better in summer, so if the government had half a brain collectively they could use that to get us into a better position for next winter, especially with these faster (but less accurate) cheaper tests. We could control this much more successfully.

And now we've got multiple vaccines (which seem unexpectedly effective). So even with an inept government there's a really good chance that next year will be much safer.
 
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