Noodles

[6pac]

Try something like this… smell a bit funky when you cook them but you get used to the taste. I ended up preferring them to pasta.

Thanks for the tip. 😎

 

[Barrowman]

I’ve had a few bouts of pancreatitis which I assume has caused me to become diabetic.

Hi @6pac and welcome to the forum. Like you, I have had attacks of Pancreatitis, three in total the last one being in 2003 fortunately not had one since and don't want to have another, very painful I'm sure you will agree.
Anyway, my doctor suggested that my T2 diabetes was very probably a result of the pancreas not producing enough insulin due to the attacks - that's his theory anyway.

 

[6pac]

Hi @6pac and welcome to the forum. Like you, I have had attacks of Pancreatitis, three in total the last one being in 2003 fortunately not had one since and don't want to have another, very painful I'm sure you will agree.
Anyway, my doctor suggested that my T2 diabetes was very probably a result of the pancreas not producing enough insulin due to the attacks - that's his theory anyway.

Hi barrowman thanks for the welcome.
Yes pancreatitis is very painful, my first attack was the worst and nearly killed me. I spent 14 days in intensive care and another few weeks in various wards of the hospital. It was by far the worst experience of my entire life. I’ve been hospitalised with it three times since but luckily the attacks were less severe. The doctors did tell me it was highly probable I’d become diabetic due to the damage to my pancreas so it hasn’t come as a total surprise but it’s still knocked me for six.

 

[EmmaL76]

Hi barrowman thanks for the welcome.
Yes pancreatitis is very painful, my first attack was the worst and nearly killed me. I spent 14 days in intensive care and another few weeks in various wards of the hospital. It was by far the worst experience of my entire life. I’ve been hospitalised with it three times since but luckily the attacks were less severe. The doctors did tell me it was highly probable I’d become diabetic due to the damage to my pancreas so it hasn’t come as a total surprise but it’s still knocked me for six.

Well that doesn’t sound very pleasant at all. Sorry you been through all that.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Would it not be the toast that’s causing the spike, I’ve also read all bread, including whole meal should be off limits?

Personally I’m not sure blanket ‘good’ and ‘bad’ food labels are very helpful for me. And I genuinely don’t think I should consider anything “off limits”.

Personally I find it more helpful to think about frequency and portion size. So how much of *whatever* gives me an acceptable glucose variation (how much did my BG jump up between before eating and about 2hrs after).

Then how often am I happy to see that sort of rise? Bigger the rise, the less often maybe?

Especially as we are coming up to the festive season… I don’t have the willpower to resist everything every time - but by choosing my moments and deciding how much of what I am happy with (and how often or how rarely) I can enjoy my food much more.

It also makes me more discerning. If I know something is likely to cause more of a BG rise, I want it to be worth it. A smaller amount of lovely crusty seedy rye bread? Yum! A beige bland supermarket wholemeal? Hmmmmm… not so much.

 

[6pac]

Personally I’m not sure blanket ‘good’ and ‘bad’ food labels are very helpful for me. And I genuinely don’t think I should consider anything “off limits”.

Personally I find it more helpful to think about frequency and portion size. So how much of *whatever* gives me an acceptable glucose variation (how much did my BG jump up between before eating and about 2hrs after).

Then how often am I happy to see that sort of rise? Bigger the rise, the less often maybe?

Especially as we are coming up to the festive season… I don’t have the willpower to resist everything every time - but by choosing my moments and deciding how much of what I am happy with (and how often or how rarely) I can enjoy my food much more.

It also makes me more discerning. If I know something is likely to cause more of a BG rise, I want it to be worth it. A smaller amount of lovely crusty seedy rye bread? Yum! A beige bland supermarket wholemeal? Hmmmmm… not so much.

Thanks for the explanation, that’s helped to put my mind at rest a little. I thought the diagnosis of diabetes meant there were going to be foods that I could never have again. Phew!!

 

[Drummer]

Wow this is so complicated.
I’ve had a few bouts of pancreatitis which I assume has caused me to become diabetic. I’ve yet to see a doctor since getting the diagnosis over the phone, they just prescribed metformin.
From what you say, I should ignore the food labels for a while and get a glucose testing kit. Can I just buy them over the counter?

No - the food labels are important as they show you how much carbohydrate there is in a food, so you can avoid the high ones. I stick to foods with less than 11 percent carbs, as a rule, but I discovered that some foods affect me more than others so I can adjust the portion size so as to stay in normal numbers.
The test meters can be bought over the counter, but the most significant factor is the cost of the test strips.
I use a Tee 2 + meter from Spirit Healthcare which I bought from their website, but there might well be a cheaper option now as it was 5 years ago now. I am sure someone can supply more information on that.

 

[Drummer]

Oh - I just read to the end of the thread and see that you are a type 3C diabetic. You can put such useful information in your signature so it shows up on every message.
As a type 3c your treatment and diet are far more like a type 1 as far as I know, with possibly some more factors added in - your GP should not be treating you as a type 2 - I'd have thought that you ought to be in the care of the hospital to test your production of insulin and need for various treatments.

 

[6pac]

Oh - I just read to the end of the thread and see that you are a type 3C diabetic. You can put such useful information in your signature so it shows up on every message.
As a type 3c your treatment and diet are far more like a type 1 as far as I know, with possibly some more factors added in - your GP should not be treating you as a type 2 - I'd have thought that you ought to be in the care of the hospital to test your production of insulin and need for various treatments.

Thanks for the reply’s Drummer, I really appreciate this. I’m waiting for an appointment to see my specialist who treated me for the pancreatitis at the hospital, I’ll be sure mention 3c and see what his thoughts are.
I’ll update my signature with some numbers and add the 3c if I get the confirmation ok. Thanks again buddy. (And everyone else who’s contributed to this thread) This forums been a massive help.

 

[6pac]

Just a quick update, I’ve ordered a BGM which should be here in a few days and I have a 15 minute telephone appointment with the Hepatology department on the 14th. Hopefully I’ll have some info to work with then. Thanks for your time guys. 😉

 

[Dave Harbud]

Would it not be the toast that’s causing the spike, I’ve also read all bread, including whole meal should be off limits?

Bread causes spikes - some types worse than others. I have tried baked beans on their own and they have the same effect. I did hear of a T2 diabetic who brought his blood sugar under control simply by eliminating all bread.

 

[6pac]

Bread causes spikes - some types worse than others. I have tried baked beans on their own and they have the same effect. I did hear of a T2 diabetic who brought his blood sugar under control simply by eliminating all bread.

Thanks Dave, my shiny new glucose tester arrived today so hopefully I’ll be able to see how I’m coping with different foods. I’ll post a couple of results in this thread when I have them. Thanks again for your reply 😉