NHS - it’s all about sugar

[Eddy Edson]

No, Unwin's interaction with Taylor only came when Unwin wanted to know how to publish his success in using LCHF. Taylor, despite claiming its all about calories, was at least helpful in letting Unwin know what to measure and how to keep records.

I feel that the reason the NHS emphasis is on Calories is that they can still keep the Big Food companies happy.
The same applies to DUK - if there are 2 approaches which can work in most cases, why not choose the one which keeps your sponsors happy?

The trouble is that although sustained weight loss works if enough weight is lost and maintained, this immediately puts off slim T2D's like me. I've seen estimates that as many as 10% of T2D's aren't (and never have been) obese. Putting them on a starvation diet is difficult to say the least!

The great thing about cutting carbs is that it works for both slim and obese T2's and also helps T1's maintain good BG control with lower use of Insulin. - Try doing that with a starvation diet!

Thanks for the Unwin/Taylor correction.

I guess one apparent advantage of the weight-loss approach is that once you have lost the weight you don't have to worry about artificial carb restrictions any more, which may make things more sustainable & easier to get good nutritional balance (assuming you don't buy into the "all carbs are bad", "carbs not calories cause weight gain" etc etc beliefs).

The starvation diet isn't a necessary part of the approach, as Taylor makes clear. Cutting calories enough to grind off a few hundred grams a week for a while is good enough.

I was also a "slim T2D" and this worked just fine for me.

 

[grovesy]

I have just heard Taylor talking on a Radio Phone and he was stressing it was personal fat threshold that counts and everyone has a differnt threshold.

 

[Lanny]

The older generation, (eighty years plus). Always refer to diabetes as 'sugar'. My elderly neighbour has said to me her GP thinks shes got 'Sugar'.

The literal translation of diabetes in Chinese is sugar in urine because it the early days of testing for it that IS what was found: sugar in the urine; you’re diabetic! 🙄

 

[DaveB]

Unwin was a student of Taylor's, apparently.

The big difference is that Dr Unwin focusses on Carb reduction whereas Dr Taylor focusses (wrongly in my opinion) on Calories.

 

[DaveB]

No, Unwin's interaction with Taylor only came when Unwin wanted to know how to publish his success in using LCHF. Taylor, despite claiming its all about calories, was at least helpful in letting Unwin know what to measure and how to keep records.

I feel that the reason the NHS emphasis is on Calories is that they can still keep the Big Food companies happy.
The same applies to DUK - if there are 2 approaches which can work in most cases, why not choose the one which keeps your sponsors happy?

The trouble is that although sustained weight loss works if enough weight is lost and maintained, this immediately puts off slim T2D's like me. I've seen estimates that as many as 10% of T2D's aren't (and never have been) obese. Putting them on a starvation diet is difficult to say the least!

The great thing about cutting carbs is that it works for both slim and obese T2's and also helps T1's maintain good BG control with lower use of Insulin. - Try doing that with a starvation diet!

Hi. Don't forget many of those slim T2s like me are in fact Late onset T1s and should ensure they have the two tests for T1 particularly the C-Peptide which checks insulin output.