NHS ID scheme could deter eligible patients, say MPs

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And eg in France, French people all carry ID cards, and they have to produce them, even when they are eg diabetic and their doctor has known all about them for decades - you still have to flash your card at the receptionist to prove that you are you before you can go in to see him for your regular monthly pre-booked visit or whatever you went for!
The European Health Insurance Card is used a lot here because the barcode is used to cross check that the receptionist is not mixing up the exam procedure that one has to undergo or get the wrong exam. Son passing the card on the reader will warn if one has got the wrong records for a patient.
Yeah yeah what if they are forged, what if there's someone from Zumbaslavia who's an illegal immigrant pretends they're me, what if they cunningly implant all your bank account details on it and fraudsters skim millions off my bank account blah blah blah - well surely they are much more likely to do that if I lose my own bank card or broadcast my internet banking details in another way, in what way, for what reason, would this be any more dangerous for me than it already is?
The biggest problem with id card is that here for some law are photocopied a lot so for a clerk that likes to con someone it's really easy to photocopy your card or photoshop is and give a copy...
I had also a red card with my name on it that states that I am diabetic, and I have absolutely no problem to carry in in my wallet: I in the case i have to go in A&E while unconscious I hope the nurses are looking in the wallet...
 
When I was pre-school age (ie pre 1955) me and my sis were encouraged to drink 'Welfare Orange' several times a week. Not sure if one had to pay for it, but it was provided by the Gov for young children due to the lack of fruit available generally and especially in Winter due to the war, to prevent us all getting rickets through lack of Vit C. I used to accompany mom to collect it when we needed a new bottle - always on a Tuesday since 'the Welfare' office was more or less opposite the fishmongers, and Tuesday was fish day at our house !

She always had to take both our NHS cards with her, to prove entitlement. These were all kept in a certain place in one of the cupboards in our living room, so were a familiar sight. Buff single fold cards, with everything handwritten in copperplate in blue/black ink. Don't recall what was printed on the inside or back other than the obvious headings for name, number etc. Our cards were handed over to us when we each got married, as you needed your NHS number to register with your new doctor, or at least, it made it easier for them. I know my old number was 'MOSK' and some numbers - I've always been able to remember the first bit, as you can say it ! LOL

It never appeared on any NHS correspondence until comparatively recently, but now it's on virtually every letter one receives from either hospitals or the doctor's surgery. But - I haven't the slightest idea what mine is and would have to grab a hospital appointment letter (which, just like my ma, are all kept in a certain place in my living room!) if I needed it!
 
I used to like the Welfare Orange Juice and cod liver oil capsules but I used to chew the capsules.
 
I always thought ID cards were an excellent idea. It would end a lot of fraud surely? Don't know how we'd prove who we were initially though. :D
On TV a bit ago someone said most fraud doesn't rely on what you're identity is.
 
Interesting that we are discussing this because my OH has a hospital appointment tomorrow and there's a letter contained in the information about demonstrating 'right of residence'. They are simply asking for some proof to demonstrate the patient lives in the U.K. and has done for 6 months. They've asked for a utility bill, housing contract (people should have them by law), a bank statement or any other letter showing residence at a U.K. address for the required time. Even a prescription renewal from the doctor demonstrates longevity in the U.K. They will also accept a birth certificate which matches a letter.
We also conduct most of our financial affairs by computer but I can absolutely guarantee that should the Police knock at anyone's door tonight and want to take you in for a mistaken identity, everybody would very swiftly be able to find some way of demonstrating their identity with some accompanying history of residence!

Anyone who says they have no means of identity whatsoever is in trouble! 😱
 
I used to like the Welfare Orange Juice and cod liver oil capsules but I used to chew the capsules.
My Mum used to hide the cod liver oil capsules in my mashed potatoes! 😱 🙂 Eew! How could you chew them? 😱
 
My Mum used to hide the cod liver oil capsules in my mashed potatoes! 😱 🙂 Eew! How could you chew them? 😱
I don't know i did not mind the taste my Mum used to say I might aswell have the straight oil
 
We used to get National Dried for the baby from the Clinic and the orange juice and cod liver oil. We also had malt which we loved and used to sneak into the pantry to dip into the jar. Tried it when I was grown up and yeuck! Horrible. :confused:

I've got all our NHS buff cards, but never had to use them.
 
In Peterborough we have had to produce two forms of i.d. for over four years when attending the hospital. You telling me you all havnt had to produce i.d. when attending hospital?
 
In Peterborough we have had to produce two forms of i.d. for over four years. You telling me you lot havnt?

I did read that they'd done an initial pilot in Peterborough Austin...it's obviously a cutting edge place! :D
 
When I was pre-school age (ie pre 1955) me and my sis were encouraged to drink 'Welfare Orange' several times a week. Not sure if one had to pay for it, but it was provided by the Gov for young children due to the lack of fruit available generally and especially in Winter due to the war, to prevent us all getting rickets through lack of Vit C. I used to accompany mom to collect it when we needed a new bottle - always on a Tuesday since 'the Welfare' office was more or less opposite the fishmongers, and Tuesday was fish day at our house !
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Been there got the T-shirt. Still remember ration cards.
 
Neither of us has been asked for ID at either of the hospitals we attend, but there again most of who we go to see have known us a few years and quite a number greet either or both of us by Christian name. It's a laugh really at the hospital diabetes clinic - as I walk through the door - me and the receptionist both chorus Hi, Jenny! to each other! It would be bats if I had to prove who I was to her, and mega silly when they downloaded my pump, which they supplied me with, is registered to me by Roche and they are sending their bills to my CCG in my name, because the thing wouldn't therefore download onto my section of the computer program, if all the pump details didn't agree with what's already in there which was loaded by them before I got my first one and was updated by them for the replacement one.

Admittedly at the two main hospitals the clinic receptionists don't know who you are necessarily since they are different ones nearly every time you go - and if it's for something new where they haven't seen you before, fair enough anyway.

I'll make sure I check any new appointment letters either of us get to see if anything's been added, but I've not heard anything about it yet!
 
In Peterborough we have had to produce two forms of i.d. for over four years when attending the hospital. You telling me you all havnt had to produce i.d. when attending hospital?
I've never had to produce anything, at any of 3 hospitals. Should I count the fourth, where I've only been once, as an inpatient and was taken by ambulance from one of the others. The whole time I was there they kept coming round asking my name. They'd then write it down wrong every single time, (even though I spelled it out for them) making it A Different Name. They'd then give me some tablets or take some blood.
 
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I've never had to produce anything.
Me neither, but the two times I had appointments at Urology outpatients, I was shown a list and asked if any applied . I've been to other outpatients clinics at the same hospital and wasn't asked, perhaps my SE London accent was enough proof f lol.
 
They never asked me to provide proof of identity at my recent colonoscopy and the gastroscopy. I guess they don't think anybody would want a fraudulent colonoscopy. Actually, enough proof is given when I pronounce the name of our house correctly (it's in Gaelic), first word Taigh, of course.
 
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Never been asked for any proof, although yesterday at the Eye Hospital I handed them my letter and then had to answer some basic questions (address, DOB, doctor's surgery attended).
 
I don't drive but I do have a provisional driving licence. I use it frequently to prove my ID. I also have a passport, so that's two forms of ID and one has my address on it.

I don't see why most people can't do that too. Yes, there is the cost, but over the lifetime of those things, it really isn't much.

Andy 🙂
 
Not everyone has passport, or driving licence, and passports aren't exactly cheap.
 
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