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Newly diagnosed type 2! And struggling

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Yes exactly that!!!! It’s the crunch!
I dunno, I just assumed it wouldn’t be very good even though there are no carbs or sugar in it lol! Yeah, I’m not a fan of nuts unless they’re flavoured… I’m sure I could adjust lol
Flavoured nuts should be fine, quinoa chips are lowish carb. You may find some crunchy foods which are low carb by looking at packets of things or websites. GrapeTree have things like Habas fritas (roasted broad beans) which are crunchy.
Their nuts are also a good price.
 
If you can eat carbs from potato rice bread etc then it doesn't matter much if they are brown or not, sweet potato is not lower in carbs and did not reduce blood sugar levels when I compared ordinary to sweet, so if you can eat them then you can have your usual option.
 
If you are okay about cooking then you can make your own crisps and they won't be carby and the same for bread.
I sorted my diabetes out by changing ingredients and making all the same food I loved with them.
Celeriac is your friend.
Every day ingredient swaps.
Here are a few swaps you can make to reduce your carb intake without having to change the food choices you have become used to and enjoy.
1. Instead of potato use celeriac.
Celeriac looks a bit weird. But it has many points in its favour.
You can cook it in all the same ways you can cook potatoes. It has 2.3g carbohydrate per 100g instead of 14.9g per 100g in potatoes.
2. Instead of rice or pasta - konjac makes a great substitute.
There are a number of brands to choose from. Some are glassy types and work well for asian style cookery. Some are more like pasta in constituency and they work well in Italian and asian recipes. They have negligible carbs in a whole portion.
3. Use Pulsin pea protein powder instead of flour to make crispy batter (mix 9g with 1 egg and some almond milk to thin if needed) or to dust food instead of flour before frying. It is the best substitute for that purpose. It has zero carbs per 100g.
4. Use xanthan gum in very small amounts to thicken sauces in asian style cookery.
I use psyllium husk to thicken gravies with roasts or for stews. It can be used instead of cornflour. Psyllium husk is a fibre so adds nutritional value to the food. Psyllium husk has around 0.2g carbs per 100g and you only use a very small amount so it is a wonderful swap to reduce carbs.
5. Use unsweetened almond milk instead of dairy milk - check the brand's nutritional value because some have carbs but if you pick the right one it can be near enough zero carbs.
6. Use double cream rather than single cream. Very few carbs.
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I make crisps by using a potato peeler to get very thin slices of celeriac and then shallow frying them in extra virgin olive oil. They get browner than potato crisps but they get beautifully crispy and taste like nicely caramelised potato crisps.

You can make your own very low carb bread if you have a bread machine and that bread can then be used to make stuffing, bread sauce etc etc in exactly the same way as you would have used 'normal' bread.
This is a roast dinner I made using home made bread and gravy and because there were so few carbs in the stuffing and gravy I was able to have carrots and peas and still stay within my 20g per day (day not per meal) target. My non-diabetic husband had the same as me and he can't tell it isn't the usual carby stuff.

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This is fish in breadcrumbs made with my home made very low carb bread. It is crisp and crunchy and made no difference to my blood sugars.
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I had this the other day when I had a craving for KFC. I mixed Pulsin pea protein (Tesco sells it - it is pricy but you only need a couple of teaspoons at a time so it lasts) with some celery salt, and garlic powder and white pepper and then dusting raw chicken thighs with the mixture and then shallow frying in olive oil and ghee until it was crispy and the internal temp was around 80C then finishing it off in a hot oven for 15 min while I mixed some mayo and dill and a bit of hot sauce for the dip. No effect on blood sugars. Pea protein is near enough zero carb. The only carbs on this plate are in the cherry tomatoes.


 
Welcome to the forum @EmilyJMart

I was thinking of suggesting your Celeriac ‘Kettle Chips’ for an occasional crisp fix @NotWorriedAtAll - but you’ve beaten me to it 🙂
 
Hi @EmilyJMart - just being nosey here - how on earth did you come to be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes? Also, you don't appear to be eating any red meat - not even ham since you refer to turkey ham - and you haven't mentioned eating any fish, cheese or eggs either so is there some reason you are restricting your diet so much? I mean - for all I know you might be allergic to this that and the other, in which case that explains your not eating them - but very often people get hold of the wrong end of the stick with diabetes and diet - it isn't restrictive of itself, only by what each person's body can cope with.
 
Hi @EmilyJMart - just being nosey here - how on earth did you come to be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes? Also, you don't appear to be eating any red meat - not even ham since you refer to turkey ham - and you haven't mentioned eating any fish, cheese or eggs either so is there some reason you are restricting your diet so much? I mean - for all I know you might be allergic to this that and the other, in which case that explains your not eating them - but very often people get hold of the wrong end of the stick with diabetes and diet - it isn't restrictive of itself, only by what each person's body can cope with.
Hello! Well over the years I’ve struggled with my weight with my biggest reaching 21 stone. I had realised but over 2 years I’d lost 5 stone without diet change which was the diabetes that was causing the weight loss. I was told I had type 2 through having a blood test because I felt unwell and couldn’t find the reason why (now we know). Yes I have cut out red meat. I loved red meat too… I just thought of the benefits from not having it. Also regarding dairy products, I have never had them through my own choice as I don’t like them.. I do have the odd egg white though so putting them in my diet as much as possible. I did have ham but thought turkey ham would be healthier. Without my testing strips at the minute I’m sticking with safe foods.
 
Hello! Well over the years I’ve struggled with my weight with my biggest reaching 21 stone. I had realised but over 2 years I’d lost 5 stone without diet change which was the diabetes that was causing the weight loss. I was told I had type 2 through having a blood test because I felt unwell and couldn’t find the reason why (now we know). Yes I have cut out red meat. I loved red meat too… I just thought of the benefits from not having it. Also regarding dairy products, I have never had them through my own choice as I don’t like them.. I do have the odd egg white though so putting them in my diet as much as possible. I did have ham but thought turkey ham would be healthier. Without my testing strips at the minute I’m sticking with safe foods.
Loss of that much weight without trying even over 2 years should be sending red flags to your GP that you may be Type 1 not Type 2. They do tend to go from the clinical profile of age (not a child) and overweight and to be fair that does probably fit in the majority of cases but not all.
There is no reason not to eat red meat if you like it as it is those carbohydrates which are the issue.
Making sure you are having plenty of protein, healthy fats and vegetables should give you plenty of options.
By adopting a good testing strategy, you will soon find that the value of having the test strips, you would probably save the cost of the strips in your food shopping by it enabling you to make better choices food wise. e.g., making what would have been 2 portions now do 3.
 
No I’m definitely type 2 unfortunately. Last blood tests in 2019 showed pre diabetes but the doctors failed to tell me. If I’d known then I’d of controlled my diet better instead of being so ignorant.
 
Well - @Leadinglights and I are thinking the same, ie that you could actually have Type 1 diabetes - but anyway, get going with that testing, before and 2hrs after meals.

If you do have Type 2 what you're aiming for is between 4 and 7 before eating, then an increase no greater than 3 above that, after. However don't expect the 4 - 7 instantly - although if the increase before/after is less than 3, it does mean your body can apparently cope OK with whatever the meal was.
 
5 stone weight loss over 2 years without trying or changing diet is not down to Type 2 diabetes, which would have caused you to put on weight. Whilst I appreciate that you may be happy to lose that weight if you were overweight to start with, weight loss is not a symptom of Type 2, so like @Leadinglights says, I would question your diagnosis.
Type 1 in more mature adults often has a slow onset and is sometimes referred to as Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults or LADA and is often mistaken for like Type 2 and may even respond to Type 2 medication and dietary changes for several years before there is insufficient insulin production and levels start to rise significantly.
What makes you so certain that you are Type 2?
 
5 stone weight loss over 2 years without trying or changing diet is not down to Type 2 diabetes, which would have caused you to put on weight. Whilst I appreciate that you may be happy to lose that weight if you were overweight to start with, weight loss is not a symptom of Type 2, so like @Leadinglights says, I would question your diagnosis.
Type 1 in more mature adults often has a slow onset and is sometimes referred to as Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults or LADA and is often mistaken for like Type 2 and may even respond to Type 2 medication and dietary changes for several years before there is insufficient insulin production and levels start to rise significantly.
What makes you so certain that you are Type 2?
Surely the doctors would know the difference right? They would of picked it up sooner? I couldn’t of possible gone through 30 years without knowing I had diabetes? However you have me thinking as I did have gestation diabetes twice. However I did ask my diabetic nurse about the weight loss over the years and she said that would of been the diabetes. I can only go by what a professional says.
 
Weight loss can happen with T2. The body burns fat and muscle to make energy as it is not getting it from the blood sugar due to insulin resistance.
 
Gestational diabetes is strongly linked to type 2, so that is likely part of why your nurse/GP think type 2.

With that much unexpected weight loss it may be worth asking if you can have the tests that may indicate whether or not it is type 1 though just to be more certain
 
For crunch you could try celery sticks filled with peanut butter or cheese / Philadelphia cream cheese. I usually pack a whole stick (cut in half to fit) in my lunchbox. Lidl and Aldi do 1 kg tubs of 100% peanut at a good price.
 
I was a crisp addict
I still am, I love them but I have gone from eating them everyday to 2or3 25g packets per week. I tested with my meal 2 hours after and I was ok but it's all the other stuff in crisps that I also need to watch out for which is why cutting them way back is still a good idea. I don't have crisps as snacks but as part of my lunch

Bread. Massive reduction in bread, still have both white and brown but I've cut back huge amounts. I've cut out the bread from lunch when I started but now I'm on a single slice if I do have bread - usually with soup (3-4 slices per week)

the rice / pasta issue for me is portion control. The amount of pasta you can have might be different but a very small amount of pasta is ok just load the plate with more sauce veg and salad. - try to make your own so you know there isn't lots of sugar in the sauce. On days I eat pasta I don't have any garlic bread :(

Check out the food with photos thread on the food board. That's been great for ideas, snacks and meals.

Something I read not long ago was a positive spin on their diagnosis, they said it made them completely switch up their diet and try out loads of new meals and dishes they wouldn't have ever tried.

Just try and push to get a meter and test strips on prescription, I had to push for them and got them to start but they probably won't give me more after Oct/Nov. I've done better testing after 2 hours so I know the impact the meal I just ate is having instead of just cutting out everything I enjoy and then failing to stick to my new diet and exercise routine. Now I can still eat the things I enjoy (except cakes and pastries) but know how much I can have and have set myself limits I can stick to and succeed at instead of every other diet I have just failed to stick to.

Once you know you can eat SOMETHING you don't need to test for that meal again regularly if you don't want to. I no longer test after breakfast because I eat the exact same thing every day.
 
For crunch you could try celery sticks filled with peanut butter or cheese / Philadelphia cream cheese. I usually pack a whole stick (cut in half to fit) in my lunchbox. Lidl and Aldi do 1 kg tubs of 100% peanut at a good price.

I find Aldi products very hit and miss, but their peanut butter is a huge hit for me - I haven't found one I like more anywhere else, and I've had a lot.

I used to like their almond butter as well, but they appear to have stopped doing that.
 
Finding all of this a bit like a school day! Learning a lot! Thanks.

i have found a lot of recipes and ideas online. Dr. Michael Mosley’s books I’ve found extremely useful with ideas and have experimented with variations for my tastes and condition.

Any other treasure troves of recipes can anyone recommend?
 
Finding all of this a bit like a school day! Learning a lot! Thanks.

i have found a lot of recipes and ideas online. Dr. Michael Mosley’s books I’ve found extremely useful with ideas and have experimented with variations for my tastes and condition.

Any other treasure troves of recipes can anyone recommend?
There are lots of recipes in the food/recipes forum (drop down tab at left hand corner)
Some people find www.sugarfreelonderer has lots of stuff which look yummy
 
Hey guys! So I’m newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. It’s quite evident I went undiagnosed for a few years. However moving forward I’m in need of some help… I’m stuggling on what to eat. I’ve completely changed my eating habits which is great but I’m getting bored of just chicken, veg, eggs and turkey ham. I’m not one for breakfast so finding myself just eating a piece of fruit. I’m missing my carbs enormously.. I was a crisp addict and that was all I would eat. Now I’ve completely cut them out I’m wondering if there was any that I could have with the odd lunch that wouldn’t spike my sugars. Also, what about gravy and stuffing etc? I know I can’t have potato unless it’s sweet but those two staples I am missing a little. Can someone please help me with snack ideas and more meal ideas. I’ve changed my bread, pasta, and rice to whole meal/wholewheat but it’s obviously dry as don’t know what I can use as sauces or anything. I’ve turned into a plain Jane , a healthy plain Jane but plain . Someone please help. Thanks for having me
instead of crisps you can have pork scratchings, or nuts, or parmesan crisps (dry fry blobs of cheese with herbs).
 
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