New information today Coronavirus 19

[MrDaibetes]

Morning all,

There's some really confusing messaging out there isn't there! I have checked this out with the head of Care here at Diabetes UK who has been very clear that people with diabetes need to follow strict social distancing measures but do not need to self isolate for 12 weeks. The 12 week isolation is for those very high risk… some cancers, post transplant, respiratory conditions such as CF. Of course those with diabetes and in a high risk group must isolate, but not because of the diabetes. Hopefully that provides some clarity.

Thank you for clearing this up social distancing still sucks but fingers crossed we will get through this quickly.

 

[Blue flash]

Morning all,

There's some really confusing messaging out there isn't there! I have checked this out with the head of Care here at Diabetes UK who has been very clear that people with diabetes need to follow strict social distancing measures but do not need to self isolate for 12 weeks. The 12 week isolation is for those very high risk… some cancers, post transplant, respiratory conditions such as CF. Of course those with diabetes and in a high risk group must isolate, but not because of the diabetes. Hopefully that provides some clarity.

But what does "strict" social distancing mean? Should I continue to goto work in office desks have been rearranged so we further apart. Work have advised would need medical certificate from GP or NHS111 advising against work

 

[Deleted member 27171]

@Blue flash wherever possible those with diabetes should work from home. If that absolutely isn't possible then, avoiding public transport (if you can), keeping 2m away from others, increased hand washing, reduced face touching are amongst the advised precautions. This is all outlined on gov website and they also have guidance for employers which reiterates the working from home advice.

[Withdrawn] [Withdrawn] Guidance on social distancing for everyone in the UK

www.gov.uk

 

[Val_858]

Hi Guys.. new here.. i am a community nurse with type 2 Diabetes so social distancing is going to be a big problem for the job i am into.. we do wound dressings, assist patient to wash and dress and give iv antibiotics mainly so a 2 meter distance is impossible.. my employer has instructed us whenever we visit patients that we ask if anyone in the household has Covid19 symptoms or self isolating..if no we can enter..no mask required just normal apron and gloves..
I have finished a 7 day self isolation after exhibiting flu like symptoms 5 days after returning from Barcelona for a holiday..
I am about to return to work and am really worried..any suggestions to tell my employer

 

[Gucci69]

 

[Gucci69]

 

[stevert]

as from this weekend government recommending people with diabetes to self isolate for 12 weeks

Patients with asthma and diabetes told to enter three-month quarantine

Patients with underlying health conditions, including asthma and diabetes, have been instructed by the Government to take extreme measures to shield themselves from the coronavirus (Covid-19), starting this weekend.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk

From what i can make out on the gov.uk website it is only people with a higer risk of severe illness e.g cancer patients & severe chest conditions etc that are told to enter 3 month quarantine. Supposedly these group of people are being contacted from monday to advise what action to take.

It appears we are advised to practice stringent social distancing, although there is conflicting information out there and is easier said than done in certain jobs etc.

Personally i can see the UK going on lockdown similar to Italy in the coming days/weeks.

Hopefully we can all get through this, worrying times ahead.

Very confusing, One day we are told to self isolate the next i have to go to work, Why have the government made another U-turn, The world health organisation says we should be self isolating but Boris knows better.

 

[grovesy]

Hi Guys.. new here.. i am a community nurse with type 2 Diabetes so social distancing is going to be a big problem for the job i am into.. we do wound dressings, assist patient to wash and dress and give iv antibiotics mainly so a 2 meter distance is impossible.. my employer has instructed us whenever we visit patients that we ask if anyone in the household has Covid19 symptoms or self isolating..if no we can enter..no mask required just normal apron and gloves..
I have finished a 7 day self isolation after exhibiting flu like symptoms 5 days after returning from Barcelona for a holiday..
I am about to return to work and am really worried..any suggestions to tell my employer

If I were you I would ring Diabetes UK helpline, as many workers in your situation are being asked to care on.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

It does not appear on the Vunerable groups list on the Government website. I watched video on a leading Dr. Twitter feed in the last hour.

Thanks @grovesy Ive just added that video to the Coronavirus Information thread

Coronavirus / Covid19 Information

The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Matt Hancock has launched an expanded public health awareness campaign on COVID-19 (Coronavirus). It urges people to wash their hands more often for 20 seconds. You can find their campaign on their social media channels below. Twitter:

forum.diabetes.org.uk

 

[grovesy]

Yes I saw that.
I dont know if we can find any more clarity for frontline medical workers of all types, those working in care, or care settings.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Very confusing, One day we are told to self isolate the next i have to go to work, Why have the government made another U-turn, The world health organisation says we should be self isolating but Boris knows better.

The .gov advice has been consistent throughout from what I’ve seen. That web page has been slightly tweaked, but not any advice for people with diabetes. What HAS confused things is Johnson/Whitty news briefings and then subsequent news items (eg the Pulse article) which have wrongly included people with diabetes and/or specifically type 1 and asthma in the more severely ’at risk’ group. Which they aren’t, and never have been according to the .gov page

 

[Thomas Ind]

From what i can make out on the gov.uk website it is only people with a higer risk of severe illness e.g cancer patients & severe chest conditions etc that are told to enter 3 month quarantine. Supposedly these group of people are being contacted from monday to advise what action to take.

It appears we are advised to practice stringent social distancing, although there is conflicting information out there and is easier said than done in certain jobs etc.

Personally i can see the UK going on lockdown similar to Italy in the coming days/weeks.

Hopefully we can all get through this, worrying times ahead.

Will we be getting letters or not?

 

[Thomas Ind]

Morning all,

There's some really confusing messaging out there isn't there! I have checked this out with the head of Care here at Diabetes UK who has been very clear that people with diabetes need to follow strict social distancing measures but do not need to self isolate for 12 weeks. The 12 week isolation is for those very high risk… some cancers, post transplant, respiratory conditions such as CF. Of course those with diabetes and in a high risk group must isolate, but not because of the diabetes. Hopefully that provides some clarity.

Is this what you have been told from PHE?
Can we have clarity as to what "Stringent Social Distancing" means especially for health care workers.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

Will we be getting letters or not?

Only the people asked to self isolate will get letters as far as I know. So no, I'm not expecting a letter. (It seems quite likely that there are people who will get one of these letters who also has diabetes, but most of us aren't in that group. We're just expected to practice social distancing like everyone else (but to take it especially seriously).)

 

[grovesy]

The .gov advice has been consistent throughout from what I’ve seen. That web page has been slightly tweaked, but not any advice for people with diabetes. What HAS confused things is Johnson/Whitty news briefings and then subsequent news items (eg the Pulse article) which have wrongly included people with diabetes and/or specifically type 1 and asthma in the more severely ’at risk’ group. Which they aren’t, and never have been according to the .gov page

According to Asthma UK the risk for Asthmatics depends on your treatment you have, they had a list of the treatments on a link of their Facebook page yesterday.
You also need to look closely at the doses of the medications too.

 

[grovesy]

Will we be getting letters or not?

Is this what you have been told from PHE?
Can we have clarity as to what "Stringent Social Distancing" means especially for health care workers.

You will only get the letter if NHS , regards you as is the very high risk group.
If you dont get the letter and you think you should be they have said to contact your GP or Clinician, but the letters are only being sent out this week. They are saying they think it will be about 1.5 million people.

 

[Deleted member 27171]

In relation to questions about health and social care workers, the only guidance comes from” Infection prevention and control guidance for pandemic coronavirus” a PDF document which can be downloaded from the GOV.UK webpage - COVID-19: infection prevention and control - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-infection-prevention-and-control

On page 32, in the section “Occupational health and staff deployment” it says “A risk assessment is required for health and social care staff at high risk of complications from COVID-19, including pregnant staff.”

So essentially it is to be decided by individual employers who should assess the risk of their employees.

 

[Jane50]

as from this weekend government recommending people with diabetes to self isolate for 12 weeks

Patients with asthma and diabetes told to enter three-month quarantine

Patients with underlying health conditions, including asthma and diabetes, have been instructed by the Government to take extreme measures to shield themselves from the coronavirus (Covid-19), starting this weekend.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk

this is for high risk patients, diabetics older people and people with asthma have to have twelve weeks with as little contact as they can, so they can go food shopping, but to try and avoid public transport

 

[Felinia]

Morning all,

There's some really confusing messaging out there isn't there! I have checked this out with the head of Care here at Diabetes UK who has been very clear that people with diabetes need to follow strict social distancing measures but do not need to self isolate for 12 weeks. The 12 week isolation is for those very high risk… some cancers, post transplant, respiratory conditions such as CF. Of course those with diabetes and in a high risk group must isolate, but not because of the diabetes. Hopefully that provides some clarity.

Well, my GP was very clear to me a week ago - self isolate for 12 weeks. I am a 69 year old Type 2 with an HbA1c of 48. I have other conditions - high BP and Diverticular Disease, both well managed - but I don't qualify to be registered for priority on the online delivery websites. So after my delivery booked for 30 April (which is getting bigger daily as I run out of things) I shall then be stuck indoors with no chance of a delivery, for at least a further 8 weeks. I'm 70 on 1 June, so perhaps I can get registered then, because I see this isolation lasting months, not weeks, as the virus comes back for a 2nd and 3rd go, when restrictions get lifted and idiots go berserk again. Just look at the latest news from Hong Kong.

 

[belugalad]

I have T2 diabetes and look after mum but she has 8 carers visiting each day for personal care,so I'm unable to isolate,they will only wear a mask if anyone in the home has symptoms.I'm expecting to have to stop seeing my 17 year old son that lives with me 50% of the time,for the first time in my life I'm pleased that he spends the great majority of his time on his computer completely immersed as that will distract him from the reality unfolding