Naan bread

[Northerner]

...I think eating a naan bread is COMPLETELY different to eating table sugar. and if you eat curry you HAVE to have naan, pita or some other indian bread, it's the law 😎 dont bother with rice though...

hehe!

I often have pitta bread with chilli - usually wholemeal pitta, slurp!🙂

 

[katie]

never use a knife and fork, just bread, it's indian law 😉

 

[PattiEvans]

I think eating a naan bread is COMPLETELY different to eating table sugar. and if you eat curry you HAVE to have naan, pita or some other indian bread, it's the law 😎 dont bother with rice though...

hehe!

Actually, don't fool yourself, white bread (including Naan) is definitely as bad as eating table sugar, if not worse. I have every intention of avoiding complications and therefore am careful with my diet, which does not mean that I have a boring diet or a non-enjoyable one. On the contrary, I have a hugely diverse diet which I enjoy tremendously, but it's adapted to suit my own body's way of handling carbs and a good understanding of insulin dosage. I enjoy a curry as much as the rest of you, but I'd avoid the Naan and the white rice (OK I may pinch a mouthful of hubby's Naan,), I simply substitute sag-aloo made with new potatoes or Lentil Dahl. The less carbs in any meal the easier it is to control insulin doses.

It's really not hard to maintain a decent Hba1c and iron those spikes out if you just gain an understanding of how your own body handles carbohydrates and yes, to begin with this means intensive testing. My Hba1c has never been over 5.7 in 6 years, the last one was 5.3.

Northerner see this link for Novorapid profile http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/joomla/insulin/iprof It doesn't peak as rapidly as Apidra but the injection devices for Apidra tend to be rubbish, so with Novorapid it is possible, with a little intensive testing, to decide when it peaks for you and therefore move your injection timing forward or back to deal with different foods.

 

[Northerner]

...Northerner see this link for Novorapid profile http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/joomla/insulin/iprof It doesn't peak as rapidly as Apidra but the injection devices for Apidra tend to be rubbish, so with Novorapid it is possible, with a little intensive testing, to decide when it peaks for you and therefore move your injection timing forward or back to deal with different foods.

Thanks Patti. I suppose the other variable that then comes into play is absorbtion rates according to the injection site?

 

[katie]

I didnt really mean in terms of diabetes, I meant as food generally. Better to have 75g of carbs in the form of naan bread, than sugar.

 

[MarcLister]

I didnt really mean in terms of diabetes, I meant as food generally. Better to have 75g of carbs in the form of naan bread, than sugar.

I agree. Slower uptake surely?

 

[C*5_Dodger]

I didnt really mean in terms of diabetes, I meant as food generally. Better to have 75g of carbs in the form of naan bread, than sugar.

Dear Katie,

It sounds obvious that sugar would be worse than naan, but consider this:
10g of sucrose breaks down into 5.26g of fructose and 5.26g of glucose, whereas starch (white flour) is almost totally converted to glucose. The rate of absorption of starch may be a little slower but with sugar the body has to deal with almost half the glucose so which is better? BTW do any of you T1s take into account the fact that sucrose only yields approx half the glucose when you calculate the amount of insulin you need?

Regards Dodger

 

[katie]

BTW do any of you T1s take into account the fact that sucrose only yields approx half the glucose when you calculate the amount of insulin you need?

Regards Dodger

thanks for the info.

We take into account the whole amount of carbohydrate - we dont look at sugar content etc.

 

[insulinaddict09]

thanks for the info.

We take into account the whole amount of carbohydrate - we dont look at sugar content etc.

What Twin said 😉😉 I calculate the whole Carb content >> then usually wont have it !! hehehe

 

[rossi_mac]

never use a knife and fork, just bread, it's indian law 😉

Thats a great law and a great way to eat generally!

Dear Katie,

It sounds obvious that sugar would be worse than naan, but consider this:
10g of sucrose breaks down into 5.26g of fructose and 5.26g of glucose, whereas starch (white flour) is almost totally converted to glucose. The rate of absorption of starch may be a little slower but with sugar the body has to deal with almost half the glucose so which is better? BTW do any of you T1s take into account the fact that sucrose only yields approx half the glucose when you calculate the amount of insulin you need?

Regards Dodger

Always so informative dodger cheers, but I'm guessing, now this may just be me, but I'd rather eat naan bread with a ruby than a stack of sugar😉

 

[MarcLister]

thanks for the info.

We take into account the whole amount of carbohydrate - we dont look at sugar content etc.

Yep. I just want to know the total carbs in what I'm eating.

 

[Northerner]

...Always so informative dodger cheers, but I'm guessing, now this may just be me, but I'd rather eat naan bread with a ruby than a stack of sugar😉

Where's your sense of adventure Rossi?😉

 

[Proudspirit]

i had a curry tonight with rice, chips and mini naan, BG b4 food 7.8, + 2hrs 7.5... Bargain

Rice was brown and chips ( a hand full) were cooked in the actifryer, curry was a ww recipe

Just thought i'd share!

Julie x

 

[C*5_Dodger]

I couldn't agree more!

Thats a great law and a great way to eat generally!



Always so informative dodger cheers, but I'm guessing, now this may just be me, but I'd rather eat naan bread with a ruby than a stack of sugar😉

Dear rossi_mac,

I too would take a naan anyday if I could tolerate the carbs. I had never thought about the blood sugar/insulin thing before since I look upon fructose as a toxin. You only store fat if you eat too much glucose, but the only way the body can metabolise fructose, any amount of fructose, is for the liver to convert it to fat, then ship it out (on VLDLs) to your fat depots.

Regards Dodger

 

[HelenM]

some alternatives to Naan here from an Indian site, they all contain fenugreek which may (or may not!) have a lowering effect on glucose levels.They're all carb counted.
http://diabetestotalcontrol.com/diabetes_recipes.html

 

[Northerner]

Update!

OK, I have tried the naan again tonight, with chicken curry again but this time with some basmati rice. I took my insulin before cooking the rice and was 4.9 before eating. I didn't eat the whole naan this time, as I had the rice - so about 50g this time rather than the 75g full naan. I gave the remainder to the birds and the rat that lives at the bottom of my garden...

• After 1.5 hours I was 8.2
• After 2.5 hours I was 7.6
• After 4 hours I was 5.9

No spike! Either that or I missed it somehow. Or maybe the inclusion of the rice slowed it down.

 

[Steff]

mmmm strange one aint it, i mean i had the dreaded pizza 2 weeks back and it effected me but then i had it last friday and it was fine with me 🙄

 

[AlisonM]

mmmm strange one aint it, i mean i had the dreaded pizza 2 weeks back and it effected me but then i had it last friday and it was fine with me 🙄

Same kind of pizza, or a different one?