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Mid morning spike

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@pm133 My comment about some people implying carbs are evil wasn’t aimed at you. I almost clarified that it wasn’t last night, but didn’t. I should have done. Sorry.
Inka. I've never suggested carbs are evil. I merely said that 25 - 30g is too much for me at breakfast. Everyone is different. If I even have a slice of Burgen toast with Marmite (12g) and leave it 25 minutes to dose - bearing in mind Apidra is supposed to be quicker than Novorapid - I will get a spike. For that reason I rarely eat breakfast nowadays. Later in the day I can have all sorts, even desserts made with sugar at dinnertime, and hardly ever spike over 9.
 
Inka. I've never suggested carbs are evil. I merely said that 25 - 30g is too much for me at breakfast. Everyone is different. If I even have a slice of Burgen toast with Marmite (12g) and leave it 25 minutes to dose - bearing in mind Apidra is supposed to be quicker than Novorapid - I will get a spike. For that reason I rarely eat breakfast nowadays. Later in the day I can have all sorts, even desserts made with sugar at dinnertime, and hardly ever spike over 9.

Nor did I mean you @Pattidevans It was a general comment.
 
Just as a completely left-field observation... I saw an ‘exercise in T1‘ presentation by Rob Andrew (a renowned expert) who suggested one particularly successful strategy for more stable BGs for T1s was to exercise before breakfast.

Saves a huge amount of the juggling of insulin sensitivity changes... insulin on board... carbs on board... and all the rest!
 
I saw an ‘exercise in T1‘ presentation by Rob Andrew (a renowned expert) who suggested one particularly successful strategy for more stable BGs for T1s was to exercise before breakfast.

Gosh... I'm like a zombie early in the mornings!
 
I can eat brown seeded bread with no spike if I have full fat cheese on it . Think as a type 1 we won’t always get it spot on so we can only try our best x
 
Just as a completely left-field observation... I saw an ‘exercise in T1‘ presentation by Rob Andrew (a renowned expert) who suggested one particularly successful strategy for more stable BGs for T1s was to exercise before breakfast.

Saves a huge amount of the juggling of insulin sensitivity changes... insulin on board... carbs on board... and all the rest!
I always walk our dogs an hour after breakfast no spikes whatever I eat then
 
My BG goes through the roof if I exercise before I bolus on a morning and if I just inject a couple of units for FOTF and then exercise I am on a bit of a sticky wicket for hypoing. I suppose I maybe need to change the form of exercise... ie walk instead of run
 
My BG goes through the roof if I exercise before I bolus on a morning and if I just inject a couple of units for FOTF and then exercise I am on a bit of a sticky wicket for hypoing. I suppose I maybe need to change the form of exercise... ie walk instead of run

Not alone there, would be in double figures due to liver dump if exercised before eating

Dont often spike badly after brekkie, even thou food is 50g carbs, has fat in porridge in way of full fat yogurt, bg goes up as it would with anyone non diabetic, so dont worry about short term rise.
 
@pm133 My comment about some people implying carbs are evil wasn’t aimed at you. I almost clarified that it wasn’t last night, but didn’t. I should have done. Sorry.

Yes, some carbs are definitely harder to handle than others. I’d also add that eating more than a person’s individual tolerance is harder. That is, if I eat more than, say 100g carbs per meal, I have to split my bolus and often do a bolus after eating.

I tend to eat similar amounts of carbs for breakfast and lunch just to remove some of the mental load of Type 1. But gradually we learn what works for us and kind of get an intuition about how a meal is going to go. I do aim to stop spikes but sometimes things beyond my control thwart me eg my predicted routine changes and I’m sitting down rather than out walking as I planned, or my pump site decided to go ‘bad’. On those occasions I correct to deal with any spike. I see that as another strategy rather than a failure.

The hardest thing about Type 1, in my opinion, is the need to be watching and changing things so often. It’s very frustrating. Sometimes I do just leave moderate spikes because I can’t be arsed, and my control is excellent overall.

No problem. It's always tricky to have conversations over text. Face to face is so much easier. 🙂

Normally I like to have a consistent diet as well. Same thing morning and afternoon with my lovely daughter cooking us something nice at night. It allows me to pretty much stay in range all day except for an hour at breakfast.

The last couple of days I've been a bit naughty though and had too much chocolate.
White chocolate and peach loops tonight absolutely sent me stratospheric. Up to 17.5. I rode my exercise bike until smoke came out of it and that worked for a bit but I remained at 12-13 for a few hours. I left it to make sure it didn't come down on it's own. When it remained there after 4 hours when my bolus ran out, I finally took a 2 unit correction and within 20 minutes I was back down to 7 again. That was unpleasant and I will be avoiding those particular "treats" from now on. Milk chocolate seems to be fine - especially Galaxy but white seems to be a real issue and requires more "juice".

I actually quite enjoy experimenting like this though as long as I only do it maybe once a week. This week I need my hand slapped for doing it 3 nights in a row.
Anyway, that's my lot for a week. I'm taking time off.
 
My BG goes through the roof if I exercise before I bolus on a morning and if I just inject a couple of units for FOTF and then exercise I am on a bit of a sticky wicket for hypoing. I suppose I maybe need to change the form of exercise... ie walk instead of run

This is why I don't correct for FOTF at all. I would absolutely hypo if I did that as my FOTF seems to be a temporary thing - maybe 10-15 minutes.

I'm the same with exercise if I don't bolus first. I have just decided not to exercise until after I've eaten.
 
I’m trying the exercising before breakfast this morning! Though I am definitely a need breakfast to get going person so will be interesting to see if I swim well without it or not.
 
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