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Marmalade advice

MikeyBikey said:
I use Waitrose Reduced Sugar Marmalade sparingly which actually has less carbs than Stute's marmalade. Whilst I like the flavour someone I recommended it to said it was too sharp. Seems OK unrefrigerated.
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Contains potassium sorbate as preservative, not sure this would be available for those making at home!
 
I do love a good marmalade. We make all our own jam, and my Mum used to make home made, but I’ve never ventured in. For shop-bought I much prefer thick cut, as that seems to me to have a much better flavour.

I seem to be in a minority though. My supermarket no longer does the Frank Cooper’s Oxford Marmalade I liked, and apart from the single own-brand thick cut, literally everything else across multiple shelves has barely a wisp of peel in it 🙄

A teaspoon’s-worth is only 3-5g of carbs, so as others have said the bread you have it on (15-20g) is where the majority of the carb-load in that breakfast is coming from.
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
I do love a good marmalade. We make all our own jam, and my Mum used to make home made, but I’ve never ventured in. For shop-bought I much prefer thick cut, as that seems to me to have a much better flavour.

I seem to be in a minority though. My supermarket no longer does the Frank Cooper’s Oxford Marmalade I liked, and apart from the single own-brand thick cut, literally everything else across multiple shelves has barely a wisp of peel in it 🙄

A teaspoon’s-worth is only 3-5g of carbs, so as others have said the bread you have it on (15-20g) is where the majority of the carb-load in that breakfast is coming from.
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When I was a teenager in the late 1970s I used to dig up Victorian bottles (it was a popular hobby around London at that time) and it was amazing the number of (complete and broken) earthernware marmalade pots that there were in the dumps! Marmalade must have been incredibly popular in late Victorian times. Most of them were Keiller, although we did find quite a lot of Frank Coopers too.

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CliffH said:
When I was a teenager in the late 1970s I used to dig up Victorian bottles (it was a popular hobby around London at that time) and it was amazing the number of (complete and broken) earthernware marmalade pots that there were in the dumps! Marmalade must have been incredibly popular in late Victorian times. Most of them were Keiller, although we did find quite a lot of Frank Coopers too.

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Oooh! That’s lovely @CliffH
 
CliffH said:
Well they cost next to nothing on eBay if you want one: much less effort than digging them up :rofl:
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There is an old Victorian ash tip on the bankside that I own above my house. The foxes and badgers are pretty good at digging such marmalade pots and old glass bottles up. Having said that, the battle to climb the VERY steep incline through thick undergrowth is probably more work than collecting the old bottles and jars they unearth!
 
rebrascora said:
There is an old Victorian ash tip on the bankside that I own above my house. The foxes and badgers are pretty good at digging such marmalade pots and old glass bottles up. Having said that, the battle to climb the VERY steep incline through thick undergrowth is probably more work than collecting the old bottles and jars they unearth!
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You're lucky I don't know where you live, or I'd be over there with my garden fork! Even though I can buy whatever Victorian bottles I want nowadays on eBay, it's nothing like the thrill of actually digging them up - even ones that are worthless in monetary terms. Have you kept any of the bottles?
 
@CliffH and @everydayupsanddown sigh, I could be tempted to try marmalade for first time since diagnosis. If Mum ran out of marmalade we bought Keillers. As children we remembered our Grandpa had thick cut Oxford Marmalade. I'm of an age where as children we had sweet Robertsons marmalade and collected tokens for what are now insensitive badges. The last marmalade I bought was M and S Dark Seville Orange marmalade. Maybe i will buy some next time I decide to have a kipper.

 
I have kept a few over the years but also given a few away. Of course some are broken. I often wonder what Victorians would think of us digging up their rubbish and using their discarded items as ornaments and I somehow doubt that future generations would want to go digging on our old waste tips.... 😱
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
I do love a good marmalade. We make all our own jam, and my Mum used to make home made, but I’ve never ventured in. For shop-bought I much prefer thick cut, as that seems to me to have a much better flavour.

I seem to be in a minority though. My supermarket no longer does the Frank Cooper’s Oxford Marmalade I liked, and apart from the single own-brand thick cut, literally everything else across multiple shelves has barely a wisp of peel in it 🙄

A teaspoon’s-worth is only 3-5g of carbs, so as others have said the bread you have it on (15-20g) is where the majority of the carb-load in that breakfast is coming from.
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This year I made, lemon and lime, lime, grapefruit, ginger.
We have a quince on our allotment and I use the quinces to make the base juice which is high in pectin and then add the various marmalade components or crab apples as we have that as well.
 
rebrascora said:
I have kept a few over the years but also given a few away. Of course some are broken. I often wonder what Victorians would think of us digging up their rubbish and using their discarded items as ornaments and I somehow doubt that future generations would want to go digging on our old waste tips.... 😱
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... and now of course I'm wondering if one of the ones you've kept is anything like this 🙄
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rebrascora said:
I have kept a few over the years but also given a few away. Of course some are broken. I often wonder what Victorians would think of us digging up their rubbish and using their discarded items as ornaments and I somehow doubt that future generations would want to go digging on our old waste tips.... 😱
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The attraction of pre-Twentieth Century bottles is that they weren't machine-made, so they're all slightly different from each other.
 
rebrascora said:
I have kept a few over the years but also given a few away. Of course some are broken. I often wonder what Victorians would think of us digging up their rubbish and using their discarded items as ornaments and I somehow doubt that future generations would want to go digging on our old waste tips.... 😱
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Well I don’t know… ‘mid century’ is very trendy in interiors (or is it not any more… I struggle to keep up), and that’s stuff that, in many cases would have been discarded as something newer had come out.
 
I was thinking more about digging through thousands of tons of degrading plastic and likely any other toxic substances, to find anything of any interest, rather than simple ash, pot and glass which my "tip" seems to consist of and which happily supports a healthy flora and fauna.
 
CliffH said:
The attraction of pre-Twentieth Century bottles is that they weren't machine-made, so they're all slightly different from each other.
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Yes, the glass bottles are not uniform at all and some have air bubbles in them.
 
CliffH said:
You're lucky I don't know where you live, or I'd be over there with my garden fork! Even though I can buy whatever Victorian bottles I want nowadays on eBay, it's nothing like the thrill of actually digging them up - even ones that are worthless in monetary terms. Have you kept any of the bottles?
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I have a box of old bottles dug up in our back garden - the road had no rubbish collection service when first built. There were a lot of the insides of batteries, the lead having dissolved away over time, there were poison bottles - the ones with ribs, there were meat paste and cosmetic cream lids, Camp coffee bottles, the old small milk bottles with the wide necks for a waxed cardboard disk to close them.
Although we have been here four decades the garden has never been dug all over, so when I get a rush of blood to the head and dig over a new patch there are still things turning up. I could make a cabinet of curiosities.
There are a few things I found on the Norfolk Broads after the dredger had been at work, presumably lost or tossed overboard over the years.
 
rebrascora said:
I was thinking more about digging through thousands of tons of degrading plastic and likely any other toxic substances, to find anything of any interest, rather than simple ash, pot and glass which my "tip" seems to consist of and which happily supports a healthy flora and fauna.
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Ha true!

Though I do have half a sci-fi idea about a story revolving around intrepid space explorers searching fragmented historic records and archaeology of a desolate dead planet, seeking hugely valuable buried seams rich in vital compounds and elements which are incredibly rare, valuable, and hard to find anywhere else as they’ve all been used and burned up. And in the end it turns out they are looking for landfill sites on earth, with all the stuff we’ve thrown away, and the lithium, gold, oils, ferrous oxides, cellulose, and polymers they contain
 
rebrascora said:
I was thinking more about digging through thousands of tons of degrading plastic and likely any other toxic substances, to find anything of any interest, rather than simple ash, pot and glass which my "tip" seems to consist of and which happily supports a healthy flora and fauna.
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Digging dumps around London, I was also surprised by the number of oyster shells I found: oysters were a cheap source of seafood for Londoners in the Nineteenth Century, until they were over-farmed.
 
Drummer said:
I have a box of old bottles dug up in our back garden - the road had no rubbish collection service when first built. There were a lot of the insides of batteries, the lead having dissolved away over time, there were poison bottles - the ones with ribs, there were meat paste and cosmetic cream lids, Camp coffee bottles, the old small milk bottles with the wide necks for a waxed cardboard disk to close them.
Although we have been here four decades the garden has never been dug all over, so when I get a rush of blood to the head and dig over a new patch there are still things turning up. I could make a cabinet of curiosities.
There are a few things I found on the Norfolk Broads after the dredger had been at work, presumably lost or tossed overboard over the years.
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Very interesting! From what you describe, your dump's probably about 1920. Do the meat paste and cosmetic cream lids have transfers on, like this one?

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