Kellog's All Bran Flake Cereal

[trophywench]

Scott - the only thing anyone with diabetes has trouble eating - is carbohydrates! Our bodies just can't deal with them properly and so, the very best thing to start off with is work out which ones in your diet, are the most processed - the more processed it is, the more difficult it is for our body to deal with.

So the premier culprit is probably sugar itself - turning sugar cane or the root veg sugar beet, into white granules of sugar takes one heck of a lot of different actions. So does producing flour from grain. So you start by cutting down on anything that tastes sweet and at the same time, what my mom used to call anything stodgy - so that includes the savoury stuff with flour in it too - anything with any sort of pastry in or on them are candidates.

All protein foods are fine (all the nice things like meat, fish, eggs) and more or less any veg that grows above ground

You don't need to drop every suspect - start off by considering - by reading the Nutritional Info on packaging - which ones in your house have the highest counts and cut down on them first.

A moderate - ie normal - amount of fat is usually fine too unless there's anything else going on healthwise that affects it - by the way, the easiest way of reducing most people's cholesterol level that may have been revealed to be a bit high in blood tests - is to reduce carbohydrate consumption!

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Scott - the only thing anyone with diabetes has trouble eating - is carbohydrates! Our bodies just can't deal with them properly and so, the very best thing to start off with is work out which ones in your diet, are the most processed - the more processed it is, the more difficult it is for our body to deal with.

So the premier culprit is probably sugar itself - turning sugar cane or the root veg sugar beet, into white granules of sugar takes one heck of a lot of different actions. So does producing flour from grain. So you start by cutting down on anything that tastes sweet and at the same time, what my mom used to call anything stodgy - so that includes the savoury stuff with flour in it too - anything with any sort of pastry in or on them are candidates.

All protein foods are fine (all the nice things like meat, fish, eggs) and more or less any veg that grows above ground

You don't need to drop every suspect - start off by considering - by reading the Nutritional Info on packaging - which ones in your house have the highest counts and cut down on them first.

A moderate - ie normal - amount of fat is usually fine too unless there's anything else going on healthwise that affects it - by the way, the easiest way of reducing most people's cholesterol level that may have been revealed to be a bit high in blood tests - is to reduce carbohydrate consumption!

Saturated fats are an utter killer for me.
It sends my cholesterol through the roof!!!!
Healthy fats ie. unsaturated weren't too bad, but obviously high calorie so I dropped them to lose weight.

Carbs had little effect on cholesterol, so it's certainly not a universal cure all for the rest of us.

 

[trophywench]

I never suggested it was a universal cure - everyone of us is different - we each have to try and identify what works for ourselves.

Try simple things first - then if they don't work - try something else.

There's always been more than one way of skinning a cat.

(Apparently - not an avenue I've ever been tempted to explore, myself …. )

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I never suggested it was a universal cure - everyone of us is different - we each have to try and identify what works for ourselves.

Try simple things first - then if they don't work - try something else.

There's always been more than one way of skinning a cat.

(Apparently - not an avenue I've ever been tempted to explore, myself …. )

I entirely agree, the accepted cholesterol methodology worked very well for me. No reason to change it.
Cut saturated fats, see the improvement.

If that fails, go for alternative theories.

 

[Drummer]

fats and cholesterol are an entirely different subject.
If a person is diabetic the problem is carbohydrates.
A lucky type two can reduce their blood glucose levels to normal by not eating the starches and sugars in the modern diet to the extent necessary for their body to cope with them.
Since starting to eat a low carb diet my tests have dropped to normal for blood glucose and my cholesterol seems to have gone down as well, despite eating saturated fats as part of it.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

fats and cholesterol are an entirely different subject.
If a person is diabetic the problem is carbohydrates.
A lucky type two can reduce their blood glucose levels to normal by not eating the starches and sugars in the modern diet to the extent necessary for their body to cope with them.
Since starting to eat a low carb diet my tests have dropped to normal for blood glucose and my cholesterol seems to have gone down as well, despite eating saturated fats as part of it.

My point exactly.
It's seems to be a well repeated myth they aren't linked for many of us.

It's not a universal rule.
Testing shows my bad cholesterol tracks my intake of saturated fats, carbs have no effect.
We aren't all the same.

 

[SkinnyLiz]

Acceptble level of carb varies from person to person.
As a Low carb diet is anywhere between 50-150g carb a day, went for the middle ground and aimed for 100g a day to start with.
That was five months ago.
Was losing too much weight, (naturally skinny) so now aiming for 120g.
Significant weight loss because also have to restrict fats due to IBS.

Some advantages of low carb,
Full fat yoghurt, much creamier and more satisfying. Same for cottage cheese.
Can add butter to veggies.
Cooked breakfasts. bacon, sausage, egg, mushrooms, tomato, spinach, smoked fish, just keep the baked bean portion small- or miss it out entirely, only one slice of toast, if any though.
Cheese is on the menu.

I recommend the Calorie and Carb Counter book published by Diabetes UK, very informative, a huge help in making food choices.

Dont despair, its a lot to take in all at once. You have made a good start by joining the forum and asking for advice.
Now its time to start making changes.
Wishing you a happy and healthy life.

Liz

 

[FredT]

A 30g serving is small, like a teeny sad cereal puddle in the bottom of your bowl, and 2/3 of that is carbs. Add milk and that’s a v carb heavy breakfast.

I couldn’t eat that, some could. One thing I’ve learnt really rapidly on here is we are all very different, and even our requirements change. I’ve been diagnosed less than a month, and during that month I’ve gone from being able to tolerate 1/2 cup oats to having to ditch them for a non carb breakfast.

I was encouraged to get a blood glucose monitor and test, and I agree with everyone here who thinks this is the right thing to do. It’s the only way you can see if what you’re eating is working for you.

I tried a cup of whole grain cereal, unsweetened almond milk, a few blueberries and ground flaxseed. I thought the taste was great but it caused a nasty BG spike. When I do eat breakfast eggs, sausage or bacon have very little effect. Even one slice of so called healthy bread raises my BG. Avoid carbs!
I’m still learning so I test often. Over here (California) Contour Next EZ are cheapish and the strips are about $70 for 300 on Amazon.