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Andy426

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I’ve joined the type 2 club this week and so far had pretty rubbish advice from my GP

Does anyone know what are the best blood glucose monitor to get is? There seems to be a plethora on Amazon but I’m not sure that I would trust the reviews on that site.

Also my diabetic nurses advice was to look online and avoid US sites. Is this kind of advice normal when you are diagnosed with a chronic illness? This was the only advice given to me for a wholesale change in my lifestyle.
 
The one to look for is one with the cheapest test strips as that is the consumable part. Both the GlucoNavii and spriit TEE2 are monitors that people find satisfactory and have the cheapest strips. Somebody mentioned that Home Health are giving free TEE2 monitors at the moment. the monitor need to read in mmol/l as that is what is used in the UK.

As you are new to all this then this link may help you https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
The Learning Zone is also full of good info and links.
Please come back with any specific questions but a bit of information about your diagnosis and what your HbA1C is as well as whether you have been prescribed any medication will help people give appropriate replies.
Welcome to the forum by the way.
 
Welcome to the forum @Andy426

Sorry to hear you are a bit disappointed with the information you’ve had so far :(

Many new members find it can be really helpful to keep a brutally honest food diary for a week or two. Note down everything you eat and drink, along with a reasonable estimate of the total carbohydrate content in your meals and snacks - it doesn’t have to be gram-perfect, the nearest 5-10g is fine. It might sound like a bit of a faff, and will involve weighing portions, squinting at the fine print on packaging, and possibly looking up things on the internet, but it will give you a really good idea of which foods are the main sources of carbs in your menu. Once you can see which meals or snacks are your ‘big hitters’, and where carbs might be unexpectedly lurking, the process might also suggest some likely candidates for swaps, portion reductions, or using lower carb alternatives (eg celeriac or swede mash, or cauli ‘rice’).

Then if you decide to go for a BG meter, you can check immediately before eating and again 2hrs later, and adjust the portions of the carbs in your meals to aim for a meal rise of 2-3mmol/L or less.

Once you’ve built up a bit of a mental database of the sources of carb that suit your metabolism you can drop back to more of a maintenance frequency of BG monitoring. But keeping meal-rises down to low levels can allow your average BG to drop back down gently and gradually which is easier on the fine blood vessels and nerve endings.

If you are carrying extra weight, then getting that down can be another powerful management strategy as it can increase insulin sensitivity, and some research suggests people can have a ‘personal fat threshold’ above which their organs begin to struggle and below which they can recover.

If you would like a good overview of T2 diabetes, to add to the knowledge you’ve already picked up, members here frequently recommend Maggie Davey’s Letter and Gretchen Becker’s book T2 Diabetes, the first year, which you can work through gradually and will give you a solid starting point.

You might also find the Diabetes UK Learning Zone a really useful resource. Lots of bite sized modules you can take at your own pace. Look at the orange tab in the main menu.
 
... carbs might be unexpectedly lurking...
That's a really good point - could someone suggest a few ingredients or food which is unexpectedly high in carbs that you wouldn't otherwise guess.

I know most people are looking at labels but there's been a lot of new people joining (myself included) who may not have gotten in to the habit yet of doing that all the time.
 
Welcome to the forum @Andy426

Sorry to hear you are a bit disappointed with the information you’ve had so far :(

Many new members find it can be really helpful to keep a brutally honest food diary for a week or two. Note down everything you eat and drink, along with a reasonable estimate of the total carbohydrate content in your meals and snacks - it doesn’t have to be gram-perfect, the nearest 5-10g is fine. It might sound like a bit of a faff, and will involve weighing portions, squinting at the fine print on packaging, and possibly looking up things on the internet, but it will give you a really good idea of which foods are the main sources of carbs in your menu. Once you can see which meals or snacks are your ‘big hitters’, and where carbs might be unexpectedly lurking, the process might also suggest some likely candidates for swaps, portion reductions, or using lower carb alternatives (eg celeriac or swede mash, or cauli ‘rice’).

Then if you decide to go for a BG meter, you can check immediately before eating and again 2hrs later, and adjust the portions of the carbs in your meals to aim for a meal rise of 2-3mmol/L or less.

Once you’ve built up a bit of a mental database of the sources of carb that suit your metabolism you can drop back to more of a maintenance frequency of BG monitoring. But keeping meal-rises down to low levels can allow your average BG to drop back down gently and gradually which is easier on the fine blood vessels and nerve endings.

If you are carrying extra weight, then getting that down can be another powerful management strategy as it can increase insulin sensitivity, and some research suggests people can have a ‘personal fat threshold’ above which their organs begin to struggle and below which they can recover.

If you would like a good overview of T2 diabetes, to add to the knowledge you’ve already picked up, members here frequently recommend Maggie Davey’s Letter and Gretchen Becker’s book T2 Diabetes, the first year, which you can work through gradually and will give you a solid starting point.

You might also find the Diabetes UK Learning Zone a really useful resource. Lots of bite sized modules you can take at your own pace. Look at the orange tab in the main menu.
Thank you, really helpful
 
The one to look for is one with the cheapest test strips as that is the consumable part. Both the GlucoNavii and spriit TEE2 are monitors that people find satisfactory and have the cheapest strips. Somebody mentioned that Home Health are giving free TEE2 monitors at the moment. the monitor need to read in mmol/l as that is what is used in the UK.

As you are new to all this then this link may help you https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
The Learning Zone is also full of good info and links.
Please come back with any specific questions but a bit of information about your diagnosis and what your HbA1C is as well as whether you have been prescribed any medication will help people give appropriate replies.
Welcome to the forum by the way.
Thank you. I was told my blood sugar result was 86 and I’ve started this week on 500g metformin. No side effects thankfully
 
That's a really good point - could someone suggest a few ingredients or food which is unexpectedly high in carbs that you wouldn't otherwise guess.

I know most people are looking at labels but there's been a lot of new people joining (myself included) who may not have gotten in to the habit yet of doing that all the time.
Carbohydrate Content Of Foods - Diabetes Care Community this list is printable
 
That's a really good point - could someone suggest a few ingredients or food which is unexpectedly high in carbs that you wouldn't otherwise guess.

Ready-made sauces spring to mind.

Highly processed foods can have added thickeners to improve texture, and then added acidity and salt, which is then balanced by adding extra sugar.

So something that looks like it might be mostly tomatoes and veg can have a heftier carb level than you might imagine?
 
I’ve joined the type 2 club this week and so far had pretty rubbish advice from my GP

Does anyone know what are the best blood glucose monitor to get is? There seems to be a plethora on Amazon but I’m not sure that I would trust the reviews on that site.

Also my diabetic nurses advice was to look online and avoid US sites. Is this kind of advice normal when you are diagnosed with a chronic illness? This was the only advice given to me for a wholesale change in my lifestyle.
i got my diagnosis by text message. but this site has been super helpful. A gluco navi is a good meter (recommneded here). I also recommend the Freshwell app and if you are type 2 low carb is gonna help you. I am now almost normal bloods after loosing 12 kg and eating target 60g of carb a day and max 100g of carb on a bad day. Diet focus for me is lots of lean protein full fat dairy and tonnes of green and colourful veg (no root veg or spuds). Beige food is banned, square of 85% cocoa choc, cheese + walnuts as a treat. I must say I feel so much better and despite my tachycardia am striding round full of energy while I was suddelnly sleeping at my desk before.
 
Thanks so much for your response.

This cheered me up. I’ve been so confused about what to do, what to eat, am I supposed to test my own BG, what the best machines are etc, etc, etc.

This forum has been really helpful so far and taking the time to read previous posts has been a great benefit.

My initial Hb (whatever’s) where 86 so fingers crossed I can bring this down.
 
I use a TEE2+ BG test meter supplied free of charge by my diabetes nurse at my surgery, with the test strips and lancets on repeat prescriptions. It might be worth asking about it at your surgery.
The TEE2+ is a Spirit Healthcare product have a look at their site here
 
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