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Jelly Babies

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trophywench said:
Ellie, we all have to eat a peck of dirt before we die!

Simply would never occur to me that there would be anything remotely dangerous in them - otherwise they'd potentially be poisoning a selection of eg M&S customers. And frankly, I really don't think it's worth my worrying about.

If you live with pets, and suffer no partic ill effects - you are more than likely pretty well immune to most things anyway!
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Copepod said:
There is some concern over chemical leaching out of plastics, such as phthalates in PVC, into food, but I think the risk is greatest with high fat foods and certain types of plastics eg cheese wrapped in clingfilm. However, jelly babies aren't known for their high fat content, and ziplock bags are usually made of polythene, not PVC. However, phthalates are being phased out of food containers.

Bacterial contamination is another matter, but not really the issue with jelly babies in plastic bags - food needs to be clean, not sterile 🙂
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But machine lubicants/oils aren't classed as dirt!

Plastic bags that aren't distend for food use, are manufactured in a grubby dirty factory, where engineers aren't worried what greases/oils they use to keep the machine's going in production, nor are things such as fly's etc considered to be a problem to production..

Plastic bags distend for food use, are manufactured in a totally different envirnoment where greases/oils used on the machines aren't going to harm humans, and fly's, instects etc are considered to be a problem in the production area...

So it's not what in the plastic but what's on it...
 
I would think any bag intended for buttons will be clean enough for jelly babies. If the spare button comes out covered in grease, they'd get a few complaints. And unless it's exposed to something really nasty, it's unlikely to be harmful bacteria wise.

There's far more worryign things on a bus seat than in one of those bags I'm sure. 😱

Rob
 
I sometimes use an old test strip tub which will fit a few in, or the jelly babies that come in a re-sealable bag, the other ones just go everywhere once opened! 🙂
 
teapot8910 said:
I sometimes use an old test strip tub which will fit a few in, or the jelly babies that come in a re-sealable bag, the other ones just go everywhere once opened! 🙂
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Test strip tubs are even worse they have a chemical aniti damp agent in them, and it does say in the leaflet not for food use..
 
I regularly kiss and sleep with something that's been kicking about a dirty greasy factory all day, and have done this on a daily basis since I was 17. It's generally been washed by the time it gets in bed, but definitely not when it walks back through the front door and I say Hello!

I reckon I'm probably immune to suds, machine oil, engine oil, 2-pack car paint, cellulose paint and thinners, cement, weedkiller - etc etc etc etc etc by now .......

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Ellie Jones said:
Test strip tubs are even worse they have a chemical aniti damp agent in them, and it does say in the leaflet not for food use..
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Not done me any harm :D
 
trophywench said:
I regularly kiss and sleep with something that's been kicking about a dirty greasy factory all day, and have done this on a daily basis since I was 17. It's generally been washed by the time it gets in bed, but definitely not when it walks back through the front door and I say Hello!

I reckon I'm probably immune to suds, machine oil, engine oil, 2-pack car paint, cellulose paint and thinners, cement, weedkiller - etc etc etc etc etc by now .......

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Mine often comes home or gets into my car either very muddy and sweaty from running / biking / kayaking, although often I'm in the same state; not quite sure what chemicals etc he uses at work, but I've been in their workshop and there are usually traces of lubricants, metal dust etc.
 
trophywench said:
I regularly kiss and sleep with something that's been kicking about a dirty greasy factory all day, and have done this on a daily basis since I was 17. It's generally been washed by the time it gets in bed, but definitely not when it walks back through the front door and I say Hello!

I reckon I'm probably immune to suds, machine oil, engine oil, 2-pack car paint, cellulose paint and thinners, cement, weedkiller - etc etc etc etc etc by now .......

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Ha,ha.........made me laugh! :D
 
Copepod said:
Mine often comes home or gets into my car either very muddy and sweaty from running / biking / kayaking, although often I'm in the same state; not quite sure what chemicals etc he uses at work, but I've been in their workshop and there are usually traces of lubricants, metal dust etc.
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And I bet the mud and water aren't too sterile either ! 😱

I'm all for ingesting small amounts of muck from daily life. If everything's too sterile and safe, we'll all end up allergic to the ordinary things. But I can see where Ellie's coming from. Some chemicals are carcinogenic or just plain toxic and there's no guarantee any non-food container is cleaned out. But in general we're pretty robust animals and can handle small amounts of what's in circulation.🙂

ROb
 
After leaving school my best friend got a temporary job in a slaughter house before going to university, he worked in the gut room where they would dismember the animals. At lunch time he would scrub up as if he was a surgeon going into surgery whilst the other guys would sit down and eat their sandwiches without a second thought, this would always turn my stomach when he told me this but it didn't do these guys any harm.

Personally I like to keep things as sterile as possible, don't suffer much in the way of tummy upsets and infections and intend to keep it that way by avoiding unnecessary contaminates.
 
I'm no clean freak and don't live in a spotless house, mind you that's not going to happen owing two dogs..

But I am very fussy when it comes to food, it's storage, prep area, preping and cooking etc.

But I am a qualified chef, and one of my Food hygiene certificates is the same as an envirnomental health officers.. So yes I do get stroppy about what some may consider minor, but generally it's the 'it won't harm' that causes more food poisoning cases than the ones that people know causes harm...

Biggest soruces for E-coli food poisioning lays in two areas, not washing ones hands after contact with animals or not washing salad foods off probably, as E-coli is found in earth!

As to cancinogens... My ex-BIL work colleague was diganosed with testicular cancer and the consultant told his colleague it was probably due to his job as a machanic... Men don't wash their hands before they go to the toilet only afterwards oill/lubicants used in cars and machines are cancinogenic!
 
I also understand where Ellie and others are coming from of course. However I also think sometimes people go too far .....
 
Rightly so on both counts. 🙂

Rob
 
A little bit of muck is no bad thing but a little common sense is needed too.

As for the jelly babies, i have a little ziplock bag I keep a couple of dozen in, they're stored in my kitbag.
 
I used to carry choc bars (penguins, etc) in coat pockets when I was less well informed.

They'd stay there for months if not needed and would gradually get small holes in the wrappers until they'd start to collect fluff and dirt. When eventually needed they could be very dirty. But they did the job. I guess I was lucky and/or resistant to pocket fluff :D

Rob
 
Penguins (chocolate biscuits) in trouser pockets are a big mistake! (due to melting point of chocolate v body temperature) But penguins (birds) don't always appreciate they they shouldn't out their beaks in trouser pockets! Perhaps the King peguins were getting retribution on behalf of the burrow dwelling Magellenics that we had been prodding with bamboo poles to see if they had eggs or chicks. Volunteer Point is one of many places in the Falkland Islands where Kings and Magellenics are found together. Penguins don't read the rules for tourists, which means penguins sometimes approach tourists, so tourist have t oback off. I saw one tourist taken by surprise - they were lying down to take a low level photo, when a brown fluffy King penguin chick jumped onto their back, and stayed for so long, that eventually the tourist had to roll over and make the chick get off.
 
Just about every shop I've been in has jb's on promotion at 74p, yesterday I called in Tesco and they had jb's at ?1.48 a packet - buy one get one free:D
 
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