I’m confused

[Deleted member 25429]

When I’m going into the office I normally need 3 units of novarapid in the morning to deal with the dawn phenomenon. Now I’m working from home eating the same thing for breakfast I don’t need anything,It is very low carb by that I mean under 10grms . Seems strange . Nothing else has changed.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

When I’m going into the office I normally need 3 units of novarapid in the morning to deal with the dawn phenomenon. Now I’m working from home eating the same thing for breakfast I don’t need anything

I'm finding I'm needing a bit less insulin, even though I'm doing less exercise (I used to walk to and from work most days, for example). I think it's partly the temperature and partly the changed food (at least my food's changed, I'm eating much less prepared food).

More generally I'm not worrying too much about minor changes like this. The DP is about stress hormones, and maybe your brain has noticed you're not going out every morning and those stress hormones have reduced a bit.

 

[rebrascora]

Could it be the stress of the morning commute was inflating your BG rather than DP or are you perhaps getting up later than usual with working from home because you don't have to commute and missing DP. Or doing more steady exercise on an afternoon/evening which is impacting on your morning levels the next day.

Interestingly my basal needs are changing at the moment and I've had a few days this past week when I was at the low end of the range on waking and didn't need to bolus for DP and like you I usually eat low carb and just jab myself 2 units for DP plus any correction. I gave myself 2 units this morning with a mushroom, onion and aubergine omelette with salad and it wasn't enough... just when I was feeling so happy that I had a fasting reading of 5.5 and then I have been high for the rest of the day and fire fighting with Fiasp to bring it down..... couldn't possible have anything to do with the naughty peanuts I have been comfort eating all afternoon though!

 

[trophywench]

Don't knock it ! Simply accept it gladly, I say. It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good after all - even if it makes my mother right about that one!

 

[Deleted member 25429]

My stress levels are reduced first thing in the morning as I’m taking our dog out ( unless he decides to roll in fox poo ) maybe that is what is helping . I have a stressy job especially at the moment but it’s not affecting my levels which is good

 

[Deleted member 25429]

Don't knock it ! Simply accept it gladly, I say. It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good after all - even if it makes my mother right about that one!

I deal with figures for a job , and it just doesn’t conform to any mathematical patterns ... that’s been hard for me at times but with time I’m getting more accepting of this

 

[SB2015]

I deal with figures for a job , and it just doesn’t conform to any mathematical patterns ... that’s been hard for me at times but with time I’m getting more accepting of this

From another Mathematician, I understand the frustration that Diabetes just doesn’t follow the rules.
I too have had to learn to go with flow. You need whatever inulin you need. The exercise in the morning in place of your commute could easily explain the reduction in levels, as the morning dump of glucose is getting used up during your walk. Hope you feel better soon.

 

[trophywench]

Mmmmmmm - you are a tad incorrect in that statement - usually it absolutely does conform but simply not to maths - instead to the complexities and subtle nuances of the body's processes! 999x out of 1,000 there is a medical explanation to whatever happens to BGs in diabetes. Just cos you're not heavily involved, in a thoroughly trained medical role every working day of your life, with all sorts of different people's diabetes, lifestyles and metabolisms, is why you find it a puzzle. All us lot on here, start with our own diabetes Freddie - and pick up all sorts of tips and info from others!

My lovely consultant at UHCW made me laugh one day, I'd said that I'd had to adjust my insulin to carb ratio at lunchtime, instead of 1u to 10g carb, now I needed 1u to each 8g carb. Oooh said he, Doesn't that make the maths a bit difficult? I had to guffaw. I replied, Dr S - in England (cos he hails from Kerala but speaks Oxford English LOL) we tend to learn things like our 8 times table in junior school and very useful they have been all my life ever since! By this time he was laughing too and shaking his head and admitting he'd said it without thinking properly first. Not his prime motivation, basic maths. See?

 

[mikeyB]

What has changed is not going into the office. If you drive there, or use public transport there is degree of low level stress. That increases cortisol levels, which in turn increase BG levels.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I certainly had a phase where (even though I was working from home) I needed less insulin at the weekends when I wasn’t working, and had to have a separate basal pattern. Work didn’t feel particularly stressful at the time, and neither did Saturday or Sunday seem to be more active or anything, but it stayed like that for several years.

These days my week/weekend are a bit more blended with working and non-working days a bit more jumbled, so I can use the same basal pattern all the time.