How do I keep REGULAR.......now I dont eat porridge , bran and jacket potatoes ?

[Purls of Wisdom]

It is becoming a bit of psychological problem for me. I look for diabetes friendly food. Initially I thought weetabix or Quakers Oats are OK. Then so called well wishers tell me that Weetabix or Quakers oats are not good for me. Weetabix contains sugar, you know. Frustratedly I think, great, one more thing off the list, which I liked. Now what? Can I eat anything guiltfree? The list is limited as it is. I ve tried overnight Oats, they are OK but not my first choice.

Lately I've been feeling poorly. Lost my appetite. No food. No NR. No high BG levels. Suddenly I ended up in the hospital with high Ketones. Lack of food in the system, I was told.

Being a mental heath sufferer for years and on meds, giving up food comes easy to me. My coping machanism i guess.

Now I do not feel like eating. I know I need to eat to stay alive but to eat what. Without being forced and causing hyper readings.

Sorry I am babbling, hope i am making little sense.

Thanking you. X

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

What do you eat instead of bread, porridge and potatoes? I would starve

My thoughts exactly. I do not eat potatoes, pasta or rice. It has not been easy. But without bread, Oats and WM chapattis ... I do not think I can survive.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

It is becoming a bit of psychological problem for me. I look for diabetes friendly food. Initially I thought weetabix or Quakers Oats are OK. Then so called well wishers tell me that Weetabix or Quakers oats are not good for me. Weetabix contains sugar, you know. Frustratedly I think, great, one more thing off the list, which I liked. Now what? Can I eat anything guiltfree? The list is limited as it is. I ve tried overnight Oats, they are OK but not my first choice.

Lately I've been feeling poorly. Lost my appetite. No food. No NR. No high BG levels. Suddenly I ended up in the hospital with high Ketones. Lack of food in the system, I was told.

Being a mental heath sufferer for years and on meds, giving up food comes easy to me. My coping machanism i guess.

Now I do not feel like eating. I know I need to eat to stay alive but to eat what. Without being forced and causing hyper readings.

Sorry I am babbling, hope i am making little sense.

Thanking you. X

I got hammered when I went low fat.
I was told the only way to go was to cut carbs, and that was all I had to focus on as well.

I chose to step back, assess what I needed for me overall, not just fixate on BG.
It took a while, but I sorted a solution that fixed everything.
In my case my focus was mainly on weight.
I put exercise into the mix, then decided on a diet to comment my lifestyle, and the diabetes just fell into line after that.

All I could say is focus on what you want, take small steps, and look at overall quality of life.

 

[snowball12]

It is becoming a bit of psychological problem for me. I look for diabetes friendly food. Initially I thought weetabix or Quakers Oats are OK. Then so called well wishers tell me that Weetabix or Quakers oats are not good for me. Weetabix contains sugar, you know. Frustratedly I think, great, one more thing off the list, which I liked. Now what? Can I eat anything guiltfree? The list is limited as it is. I ve tried overnight Oats, they are OK but not my first choice.

Lately I've been feeling poorly. Lost my appetite. No food. No NR. No high BG levels. Suddenly I ended up in the hospital with high Ketones. Lack of food in the system, I was told.

Being a mental heath sufferer for years and on meds, giving up food comes easy to me. My coping machanism i guess.

Now I do not feel like eating. I know I need to eat to stay alive but to eat what. Without being forced and causing hyper readings.

Sorry I am babbling, hope i am making little sense.

Thanking you. X

You are not babbling, this is the place to vent. I too suffer with mental health for many years. I have lost interest in food as well. I am rarely hungry. For me food is the enemy. I eat because I have too. My Dr is not happy with my hbc1a figures but he is never happy. The more he stresses me the higher my anxiety goes along with my sugar. Totally and utterly fed up with everything.

You can talk to me anytime

 

[rebrascora]

What do you eat instead of bread, porridge and potatoes? I would starve

Breakfast is usually lovely creamy natural Greek yoghurt with mixed seeds and berries and a cup of coffee with real double cream. I often don't have lunch but it can be meat or cheese or eggs with a salad or soup or some veggie sticks with a sour cream and chive dip. Evening meal might be curry on a bed of green beans and courgettes and cabbage (usually cooked with a knob of butter (no rice) or ratatouille with high meat content sausages or with halloumi or gammon with cauliflower cheese and whatever other veg I have, usually cabbage or steak and celeriac chips and salad with cheese coleslaw or belly pork or tonight might be marrows (at least one of my courgettes got away on me) stuffed with a mince, mushroom and onion filling with green beans. The options are endless. Sometimes I just have a pot of olives and some nice cheese if I can't be bothered to cook anything, or some peppadew peppers stuffed with cream cheese or feta or some cooked meat with coleslaw and pickled beetroot..... and there might be the slightly more than occasional packet of pork scratching for a pretty much zero carb crunchy snack.

Doing without bread and potatoes was mind boggling at first (I was never that bothered about rice ... and pasta was just a means to bulk out a nice tasty sauce) so now I just have the tasty bit with some veg instead of all that "beige bulk" and amazingly I just don't miss them, even the bread and potatoes and I did love those. The less of them you eat, the less you crave them and the more you realize that the other food is far tastier. The fat in my diet provides slow release calories so I don't stint on that and eat lots of cheese and nuts and cream in my coffee and fatty meat and olives and avocado occasionally and my ratatouille is cooked in plenty of lovely olive oil and my veg is cooked with a knob of butter or dollop of cream cheese. You might think that this is going to cause me high cholesterol but my levels have dropped in the 3 years since I have been eating like this and my consultant tell s me to keep doing whatever I am doing. I feel fitter and healthier than I have in 20 years and my joint pain is reduced and my weight is stable and my gut and bowel health is the best it has been pretty well all my life, so this way of eating seems to really suit my body.... and now that I have got to grips with what to eat and how to cook it and tried different veggie alternatives like mashed cauliflower and celeriac chips, and roasted swede, I don't really feel like I miss the potatoes and bread at all. I very rarely feel hungry and I eat a lot less than I used to but it is calorie dense food and I still have plenty of energy and my mental health is improved..... and I love that I am now mostly in control of my comfort eating..... something which has plagued my life for years (still get the odd wobble but few and far between.

I do still go out for a meal or special occasion or share fish and chips with my partner from the chippy very occasionally Maybe once every couple of months), but I usually have a reduced portion of the carb rich foods. What I find is that my BG levels are much harder to manage the day after and I sometimes start to get cravings the next day which creates upheaval that I don't need so I am mostly happier to tick along on my low carb higher fat way of eating and the fat is important to make it enjoyable and sustainable long term.... particularly once you reach target weight. .

 

[Deleted member 21371]

We're all different.
Sometimes I walk past Gregg's.
Sometimes I go in.

 

[42istheanswer]

It is becoming a bit of psychological problem for me. I look for diabetes friendly food. Initially I thought weetabix or Quakers Oats are OK. Then so called well wishers tell me that Weetabix or Quakers oats are not good for me. Weetabix contains sugar, you know. Frustratedly I think, great, one more thing off the list, which I liked. Now what? Can I eat anything guiltfree? The list is limited as it is. I ve tried overnight Oats, they are OK but not my first choice.

Lately I've been feeling poorly. Lost my appetite. No food. No NR. No high BG levels. Suddenly I ended up in the hospital with high Ketones. Lack of food in the system, I was told.

Being a mental heath sufferer for years and on meds, giving up food comes easy to me. My coping machanism i guess.

Now I do not feel like eating. I know I need to eat to stay alive but to eat what. Without being forced and causing hyper readings.

Sorry I am babbling, hope i am making little sense.

Thanking you. X

Standard Weetabix contains very little sugar, however your body will sooner or later convert the complex carbs it contains into sugar. Whether or not your body can cope with weetabix as a breakfast is very individual, as you can see from the variation in the thread whether or not people have it. If you test your blood sugar before and 2 hours after, you'll be able to see whether it's OK for you. If your blood sugar goes up too high with 2 weetabix, you could potentially try one with some raspberries and nuts and see how that goes

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Have a look at "low GI" and "low GL".
As said above, Weetabix is a complex carb, it takes a longer time to be digested compared to a simple carb like sugar.
As it's digested slowly, any rise in blood sugar is low, over a lower time, than a quick hit of a simple carb dumping all at once.
Many type 2's find their insulin response is able to cope with the slow drop feed of a complex carb.

 

[Drummer]

Be aware that we are all different.
I checked GL and GI foods - very little to recommend them.
Resistant starch - I think my gut just looked upon it as a challenge.
The only way to be sure is to test.
I got a meter and found that I get more carbs from peas and beans that listed, by about 80%. To replace potato, I tried out various low carb veges cooked in different ways.
I use cauliflower rather than rice with curry, and swede instead of potato to make bubble and squeak.

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

Standard Weetabix contains very little sugar, however your body will sooner or later convert the complex carbs it contains into sugar. Whether or not your body can cope with weetabix as a breakfast is very individual, as you can see from the variation in the thread whether or not people have it. If you test your blood sugar before and 2 hours after, you'll be able to see whether it's OK for you. If your blood sugar goes up too high with 2 weetabix, you could potentially try one with some raspberries and nuts and see how that goes

A fairly easy and doable suggestion. Thanks. Goes up by how many mmol/L?

 

[snowball12]

Breakfast is usually lovely creamy natural Greek yoghurt with mixed seeds and berries and a cup of coffee with real double cream. I often don't have lunch but it can be meat or cheese or eggs with a salad or soup or some veggie sticks with a sour cream and chive dip. Evening meal might be curry on a bed of green beans and courgettes and cabbage (usually cooked with a knob of butter (no rice) or ratatouille with high meat content sausages or with halloumi or gammon with cauliflower cheese and whatever other veg I have, usually cabbage or steak and celeriac chips and salad with cheese coleslaw or belly pork or tonight might be marrows (at least one of my courgettes got away on me) stuffed with a mince, mushroom and onion filling with green beans. The options are endless. Sometimes I just have a pot of olives and some nice cheese if I can't be bothered to cook anything, or some peppadew peppers stuffed with cream cheese or feta or some cooked meat with coleslaw and pickled beetroot..... and there might be the slightly more than occasional packet of pork scratching for a pretty much zero carb crunchy snack.

Doing without bread and potatoes was mind boggling at first (I was never that bothered about rice ... and pasta was just a means to bulk out a nice tasty sauce) so now I just have the tasty bit with some veg instead of all that "beige bulk" and amazingly I just don't miss them, even the bread and potatoes and I did love those. The less of them you eat, the less you crave them and the more you realize that the other food is far tastier. The fat in my diet provides slow release calories so I don't stint on that and eat lots of cheese and nuts and cream in my coffee and fatty meat and olives and avocado occasionally and my ratatouille is cooked in plenty of lovely olive oil and my veg is cooked with a knob of butter or dollop of cream cheese. You might think that this is going to cause me high cholesterol but my levels have dropped in the 3 years since I have been eating like this and my consultant tell s me to keep doing whatever I am doing. I feel fitter and healthier than I have in 20 years and my joint pain is reduced and my weight is stable and my gut and bowel health is the best it has been pretty well all my life, so this way of eating seems to really suit my body.... and now that I have got to grips with what to eat and how to cook it and tried different veggie alternatives like mashed cauliflower and celeriac chips, and roasted swede, I don't really feel like I miss the potatoes and bread at all. I very rarely feel hungry and I eat a lot less than I used to but it is calorie dense food and I still have plenty of energy and my mental health is improved..... and I love that I am now mostly in control of my comfort eating..... something which has plagued my life for years (still get the odd wobble but few and far between.

I do still go out for a meal or special occasion or share fish and chips with my partner from the chippy very occasionally Maybe once every couple of months), but I usually have a reduced portion of the carb rich foods. What I find is that my BG levels are much harder to manage the day after and I sometimes start to get cravings the next day which creates upheaval that I don't need so I am mostly happier to tick along on my low carb higher fat way of eating and the fat is important to make it enjoyable and sustainable long term.... particularly once you reach target weight. .

You are so lucky to like veg and salad, enjoy

 

[Leadinglights]

A fairly easy and doable suggestion. Thanks. Goes up by how many mmol/L?

Are you not yet adjusting your insulin for the amount of carbs you are having. If you are then surely you can have weetabix, porridge, chapatis or whatever you like.

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

Are you not yet adjusting your insulin for the amount of carbs you are having. If you are then surely you can have weetabix, porridge, chapatis or .orridge, chapatis or whatever you like.

I am afraid not. Allow me to give you an example. I calculated carbs for lunch. Added 2u as correction. BG levels were 14.3 mmol/L. Fast forward an hour and half, sensor reads 15.7 mmol/L been out and about meanwhile. Returned home to 19.2. I ve not eaten a crumb during this period.
Can any one pls explain? Cos I can't. Ta!

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

You are so lucky to like veg and salad, enjoy

I cook most of the times. Thought I will be OK food wise upon diagnosis. Can cook lentils curries and what not. I couldn't be more wrong. The carbs are humongous in everything. One must not eat carrots, turnips , parsnips and middle of a cucumber. Nuts and fruits are good but in small variety.

All this do's one day and don'ts the other day, leaves me baffled and depressed.

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

Be aware that we are all different.
I checked GL and GI foods - very little to recommend them.
Resistant starch - I think my gut just looked upon it as a challenge.
The only way to be sure is to test.
I got a meter and found that I get more carbs from peas and beans that listed, by about 80%. To replace potato, I tried out various low carb veges cooked in different ways.
I use cauliflower rather than rice with curry, and swede instead of potato to make bubble and squeak.

My gut sees wheat as its arch enemy!

 

[42istheanswer]

I am afraid not. Allow me to give you an example. I calculated carbs for lunch. Added 2u as correction. BG levels were 14.3 mmol/L. Fast forward an hour and half, sensor reads 15.7 mmol/L been out and about meanwhile. Returned home to 19.2. I ve not eaten a crumb during this period.
Can any one pls explain? Cos I can't. Ta!

That sounds like your insulin ratio may need adjusting if you're on insulin (sorry hadn't twigged that you were in my initial answer)

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

Have a look at "low GI" and "low GL".
As said above, Weetabix is a complex carb, it takes a longer time to be digested compared to a simple carb like sugar.
As it's digested slowly, any rise in blood sugar is low, over a lower time, than a quick hit of a simple carb dumping all at once.
Many type 2's find their insulin response is able to cope with the slow drop feed of a complex carb.

... and how do the T1 respond? Not that I am any wiser as regards to my diagnosis. Lol not.

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

That sounds like your insulin ratio may need adjusting if you're on insulin (sorry hadn't twigged that you were in my initial answer)

My DSN is very slowly making adjustments but no joy for everyone to see. I am beside myself.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

... and how do the T1 respond? Not that I am any wiser as regards to my diagnosis. Lol not.

Are you type 1?
You are showing as type 2?

Having said that, if you are on insulin I would suggest you ignore everything most of us have said so far, and look at responses from those that can advise on carbs and insulin.

 

[Purls of Wisdom]

I got hammered when I went low fat.
I was told the only way to go was to cut carbs, and that was all I had to focus on as well.

I chose to step back, assess what I needed for me overall, not just fixate on BG.
It took a while, but I sorted a solution that fixed everything.
In my case my focus was mainly on weight.
I put exercise into the mix, then decided on a diet to comment my lifestyle, and the diabetes just fell into line after that.

All I could say is focus on what you want, take small steps, and look at overall quality of

Are you type 1?
You are showing as type 2?

Having said that, if you are on insulin I would suggest you ignore everything most of us have said so far, and look at responses from those that can advise on carbs and insulin.

To my utmost despair, I am still not told which type I am, 5+ months since diagnosed. The first treatment offered to me was insulin. I was rushed to HSP with raised ketones. Possible DKA. All symptoms pointing to Type 1. The experts keep changing their opinion.

I ended up in A&E yesterday with high ketones (type 1?). But the doctor also thought that I am T2DM.

Who should I ask?