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We could do with some good news, let's hope it’s not all fake!
 
I just looked out at the beautiful clear sky where the sun has just set, and thought, I haven’t seen such a clear sky since....Oh, The Icelandic Ash cloud! No vapour trails!
 
Well now, it feels like the world has joined me on social distancing :D Since moving back to the UK six months ago, we have been working from home, and because of the house renovations – we've barely left it, other than to ASDA and B&Q.

It's so typical though, just as we're nearing the end of the work and I was looking forward to trying to make friends and be more involved with the local community, this happens.

Keep in contact with all your family and friends, and stay sane in amongst the crazy! What will be, will be.
 
Anitram said:
I may have just had a lucky escape. We were due to meet up with friends on Saturday for a games night (three families) but cancelled in the light of current advice on social distancing. Yesterday evening my wife linked up with our friends via Skype. The partner of one, who were due to host, is now showing symptoms and the wife of the other said she had started to feel unwell. Just as well we called it off, then.

Martin
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A perfect example of why avoiding these non-essential gatherings is so important Martin!
 
Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.
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So we really should be following the Mediterranean diet then?
 
Spotted this New Zealand graphic on Twitter today which was quite a striking still from an animation about the huge effect of social distancing.

So it might be a bit annoying, it it makes a HUGE difference

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1241711012803420161
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Boom tish! :D :D :D
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LOL I was being serious! :D

This reminds me of the time me and my friend were in my backyard sunbathing and my friend said how hot the sun was and I said yes you'd never think it was 93 million miles away. She cracked up and told me I was a joker. I was being serious that time as well. Mild autism is very entertaining. :D
 
Anitram said:
The north of Italy also has the highest level of nitrogen dioxide pollution in Europe. What's it doing to people's lungs, breathing that in day in day out?
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Makes me wonder how old they'd all get with clean air!
 
Doing ok here.

Planting veg seeds, some have already germinated 🙂
I have a pile of books I want to read but so far only got halfway through one.

Just enjoying the sunshine and the garden mostly at present and seem to be doing more machine washing.

Keep safe and well everyone
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Just checking in folks.

Hope everyone is coping, and has managed to find the level of separation/isolation that they are happy offers them reduced risk, while also allowing life to continue.

Anyone found any particular difficulties or (even better) any unforeseen benefits and opportunities from this peculiar stage in all our lives?

Any top tips to share?

Any long-forgotten hobbies being resurrected?

Is ‘working from home’ working out (if you’ve been able to arrange that?)

Any book or box set recommendations?

Hang in there folks. It will all be over by Christmas (as they used to say in the war!)
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grovesy said:
They also had a fairly good health care system too!
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Lots more hospital beds than the UK, apparently ...

The high Italian fatality rates are a statistical artifact, most likely, driven by lack of testing. Because testing resources are way limited, most people don't get tested until they go to hospital, ie they're pretty damn sick. So the reported coro case numbers don't include a large number of milder, undiagnosd mainly younger cases - multiples of the reported numbers.

Ditto for the UK, where test rates have also been woeful. So in the UK you get a "raw" CFR of ~5%, hugely more than eg the ~0.5% places with lots of testing, like Germany and Oz, are seeing.

Probably the actual fatality rates are not that different. It's just that inept management in UK means that you likely have something like 10X the reported number of cases. As testing in the UK ramps up, there will be a large increase in the number of reported cases, but the raw CFR will come down.
 
Potty training (our 2 year old daughter not me!) Third attempt in 6 months. Not going well so far.

Mainly decided to try again because there don't appear to be any nappies available anywhere!
 
Ditto said:
LOL I was being serious! :D
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Well... if the population is more at risk because they are all older (living longer) than in other places in Europe, then it seems to suggest it’s a good diet for long life! :D
 
Eddy Edson said:
Lots more hospital beds than the UK, apparently ...

The high Italian fatality rates are a statistical artifact, most likely, driven by lack of testing. Because testing resources are way limited, most people don't get tested until they go to hospital, ie they're pretty damn sick. So the reported coro case numbers don't include a large number of milder, undiagnosd mainly younger cases - multiples of the reported numbers.

Ditto for the UK, where test rates have also been woeful. So in the UK you get a "raw" CFR of ~5%, hugely more than eg the ~0.5% places with lots of testing, like Germany and Oz, are seeing.

Probably the actual fatality rates are not that different. It's just that inept management in UK means that you likely have something like 10X the reported number of cases. As testing in the UK ramps up, there will be a large increase in the number of reported cases, but the raw CFR will come down.
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I have heard that high rates could be partly explained by the mixing of the generations, and there tactile behaviours.
 
An 'unexpected' following my isolation/ absence from work is finding out how amorous our elderly retired neighbours are! It's most afternoons, she tends to be very loud and our daughter pointing at the wall or if we are outside their bedroom, saying "the lady has got an owey Daddy, is she hurting?"
 
grovesy said:
I have heard that high rates could be partly explained by the mixing of the generations, and there tactile behaviours.
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No surprise if that's got something to do with it, but it's not enough to give Italy a CFR of 9%, which is the current "raw" number. The limited-testing explanation goes most of the way, I think.

This German virologist is good, and his comments agree with other virologists I follow: https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundhe...ronavirus-pandemic-germany-virologist-charite
 
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