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gayle.xx

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I’m really new to this diabetes, haven’t really had much from my doctors, well not even spoken to my doctor! Just spoken to the nurse at our practice on a couple of occasions given the tablets and lots of leaflets and kind of told to get on with it..
my daughters are always saying should I be eating that? So probably need some help with my diet and what not to eat,
thanks x
 
Hi @gayle.xx - the main thing as far as food is concerned is to know that the main item you need to cut down on, is carbohydrate. Protein and fat won't affect blood glucose to anywhere near the same extent, if at all. It is ALL carbohydrate, whatever food it's contained in - not only sugar itself.

What sort of things are they saying that about?
 
Hi thank you Jenny,
Hot cross bun this morning, full of fruit?
I’m vegetarian as well , and don’t eat at regular times, not hungry very often and often just snack instead of a meal. Prefer savoury to sweet foods,
 
Hi and welcome.

Yes the dried fruit in a hot cross bun is part of the problem and there will likely be added sugar as well to make the dough sweet but the flour the bun is made with is probably a bigger issue.... same with any bread or bun/roll/bap, cake or biscuit. Diabetes is not just about sugar but all carbohydrates which are broken down into glucose by the digestive system and absorbed into the blood. Calling it "blood sugar" makes people assume sugar is the problem but glucose is the building block of all carbohydrates be they from grains like wheat or rice or oats.... or potatoes or fruit.... they all get broken down and become glucose and it is our high blood glucose (BG)levels which make us diabetic. Reducing the amount of all carbohydrates we eat (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, breakfast cereals and fruit) will help to bring our BG levels down.
There are carbohydrates in almost all foods to some extent or other.... even lettuce.... but you would need to eat a ton of lettuce to have any real impact on your BG levels because it contains very little..... so the key is to understand which foods are highest in carbs and restrict those and eat more of the ones that are lower in carbs to fill you up. Of course none of us what to eat a ton of lettuce everyday as that is pretty unappealing, but there are plenty of tasty low carb foods to have with your salad or cabbage or cauliflower and don't be afraid to add a dollop of butter or a dash of a nice oil to your veggies.
Not sure where you stand on eggs but they are a versatile low carb food. I love omelettes with a variety of fillings and a big side salad with a large dollop of coleslaw. Cauliflower is wonderful stuff. It can be boiled and mashed to replace potato (with the addition of a good dollop of cream cheese and some wholegrain mustard) and you can have plenty of cheese on top as that is low carb. Cauli can also be grated and used as a rice or couscous replacement (takes a lot less cooking) or cut into steaks and roasted. Celeriac makes pretty good low carb chips or swede works OK too. Lentils, beans and peas are moderately carb rich but some people's bodies seem to be able to extract more carbs from them than they are supposed to contain. Sadly I am one of those people people whose BG levels spike quite badly with pulses, so I don't have them very often.... :(

Breakfast can be tricky as it tends to traditionally be a carb rich meal (toast or cereals). Many of us have creamy Greek style natural yoghurt with a few berries and mixed seeds and perhaps a sprinkle of cinnamon or chopped nuts..... or eggs whichever way is our preference. There are special low carb recipes for muffins which don't use normal flour and can be used to make sweet or savoury "buns" to eat on the go or Nut bars can make a satisfying grab and Go breakfast.... Things like Nature Valley Protein bars are just under 10g carbs per bar so they can make a useful on the hoof breakfast. (The Salted Caramel and Choc and Peanut ones are both nice).

Anyway, just wanted to give you a bit of an insight. It is all pretty overwhelming at first and slow steady changes are better than sudden drastic ones, so start reading food labels for carb content and gradually lowering your carb intake. Feel free to ask any questions that crop up because it does take some time to get your head around it all. I can honestly say that there have been a lot of positives to come from changing my diet and I still enjoy my food, but I do eat very differently to the way I used to.
 
Welcome to the forum @gayle.xx

One of the biggest questions when newly diagnosed is often ‘what can I eat’ and while there are obvious things like cakes, biscuits, sweets and sugary drinks that you will want to cut out straight away, you might be surprised how much *all* carbohydrate affects your BG levels, including rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, pastry, grains, cereals and many fruits.

Many newly diagnosed members find it can be really helpful to keep a food diary for a week or two. Be completely honest with yourself. Note down everything you eat and drink, along with a reasonable estimate of the total carbohydrate content in your meals and snacks - it doesn’t have to be gram-perfect, the nearest 5-10g is fine. It might sound like a bit of a faff, and will involve weighing portions, squinting at the fine print on packaging, and possibly looking up things on the internet, but it will give you a really good idea of which foods are the main sources of carbs in your menu.

Once you can see which meals or snacks are your ‘big hitters’, and where carbs might be unexpectedly lurking, the process might also suggest some likely candidates for swaps, portion reductions, or using lower carb alternatives (eg celeriac or swede mash, or cauli ‘rice’).

There’s no oneway of eating that is right for everyone’s diabetes, so there’s a degree of working things out as you go along.

These meal plans might give you some starting points to try inyour own experiments?

 
Thank you, I really appreciate the messages. that’s given me a good insight, Will think about the carbs now & get some cauliflower in with the next shop. Will also add some bars on..
will show my daughters as well and they can point me in the right direction, thanks again xx
 
Hi and welcome.

Yes the dried fruit in a hot cross bun is part of the problem and there will likely be added sugar as well to make the dough sweet but the flour the bun is made with is probably a bigger issue.... same with any bread or bun/roll/bap, cake or biscuit. Diabetes is not just about sugar but all carbohydrates which are broken down into glucose by the digestive system and absorbed into the blood. Calling it "blood sugar" makes people assume sugar is the problem but glucose is the building block of all carbohydrates be they from grains like wheat or rice or oats.... or potatoes or fruit.... they all get broken down and become glucose and it is our high blood glucose (BG)levels which make us diabetic. Reducing the amount of all carbohydrates we eat (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, breakfast cereals and fruit) will help to bring our BG levels down.
There are carbohydrates in almost all foods to some extent or other.... even lettuce.... but you would need to eat a ton of lettuce to have any real impact on your BG levels because it contains very little..... so the key is to understand which foods are highest in carbs and restrict those and eat more of the ones that are lower in carbs to fill you up. Of course none of us what to eat a ton of lettuce everyday as that is pretty unappealing, but there are plenty of tasty low carb foods to have with your salad or cabbage or cauliflower and don't be afraid to add a dollop of butter or a dash of a nice oil to your veggies.
Not sure where you stand on eggs but they are a versatile low carb food. I love omelettes with a variety of fillings and a big side salad with a large dollop of coleslaw. Cauliflower is wonderful stuff. It can be boiled and mashed to replace potato (with the addition of a good dollop of cream cheese and some wholegrain mustard) and you can have plenty of cheese on top as that is low carb. Cauli can also be grated and used as a rice or couscous replacement (takes a lot less cooking) or cut into steaks and roasted. Celeriac makes pretty good low carb chips or swede works OK too. Lentils, beans and peas are moderately carb rich but some people's bodies seem to be able to extract more carbs from them than they are supposed to contain. Sadly I am one of those people people whose BG levels spike quite badly with pulses, so I don't have them very often.... :(

Breakfast can be tricky as it tends to traditionally be a carb rich meal (toast or cereals). Many of us have creamy Greek style natural yoghurt with a few berries and mixed seeds and perhaps a sprinkle of cinnamon or chopped nuts..... or eggs whichever way is our preference. There are special low carb recipes for muffins which don't use normal flour and can be used to make sweet or savoury "buns" to eat on the go or Nut bars can make a satisfying grab and Go breakfast.... Things like Nature Valley Protein bars are just under 10g carbs per bar so they can make a useful on the hoof breakfast. (The Salted Caramel and Choc and Peanut ones are both nice).

Anyway, just wanted to give you a bit of an insight. It is all pretty overwhelming at first and slow steady changes are better than sudden drastic ones, so start reading food labels for carb content and gradually lowering your carb intake. Feel free to ask any questions that crop up because it does take some time to get your head around it all. I can honestly say that there have been a lot of positives to come from changing my diet and I still enjoy my food, but I do eat very differently to the way I used to.
Thank you barbra yes I love eggs so can try different things with them, I love yogurt & fruit
but need a food overhaul I think, it’s hard eating one way for over 50 years & finding out I need to change everything and looking at these tips I need to sort myself out, thank you so much for the message , I appreciate it xxxx
 
Thank you barbra yes I love eggs so can try different things with them, I love yogurt & fruit
but need a food overhaul I think, it’s hard eating one way for over 50 years & finding out I need to change everything and looking at these tips I need to sort myself out, thank you so much for the message , I appreciate it xxxx
I was 56yrs old at diagnosis, so I too was set in my ways with food and like you, not a consistent eater. I was also a sugar addict. I could easily polish off a whole multipack of Snickers or a box of Cadbury's Cream Eggs in one go on a bad day, comfort eating, as well as consuming far too much bread and potatoes. I thought a healthy meal was 4 slices of wholemeal toast with a whole tin of Heinz baked beans.... I dead to think how many carbs there are in that meal alone but clearly portion control had been abandoned. 😱
What I love about my new way of eating is that I have more control.... control that I probably haven't had for most of my adult life and I no longer crave those high carb foods and my tastes have changed in that I now enjoy other taste sensations like sourness and bitterness and I taste food more and have a greater appreciation for it rather than just wolfing it down. Not sure if any of that makes sense but things are better now. I feel fitter and healthier and younger than I have for a lot of years and the joint pain I was struggling with which I assumed was just "old age" has eased dramatically. I was struggling to walk down steep hills.... now I can run or skip 🙄 down them.....Will leave you with that image of a now 58yr old woman skipping down the hills!! :D
 
Diagnosis needs a bit of new thinking in terms of diet as many of the foods we have been let to believe are healthy are not so for Type 2 diabetics, you have to become an avid reader of the nutritional labels on packets looking for the TOTAL carbohydrates not just 'sugars' as it is all carbs which convert to glucose. The internet is a good resource for looking for the carbs in foods with a search for food X and total carbs usually given in grams per 100g so a bit of arithmetic need for working out for your portion size. Some people do use various apps but a note book will do.
There are plenty of low carb veggie meals on the internet and on here in the food/recipes forum.
Finding some substitutes for the high carb rice, pasta and potatoes will help you reduce the carbs in your meals.
I use edamame bean or black bean pasta as it is much lower carb, butternut squash, celeriac, and cauliflower are some good substitutes as they can be roasted, baked, mashed, used in soups and curries so very versatile.
 
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