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Welshie

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I have been taking statins and bp meds for approx 4 years, changed drs 2 years ago as I moved.
back a few years ago my then drs said my blood sugar was a bit high and to watch it, end of convo.
After two years at new surgery and several blood tests in that time, I got a call asking me to go in see the nurse, she the floored me with type 2 diagnosis, asked if any ie had mentioned it before as previous test show 20 then 38 now it’s 60, poked my feet talked about seeing an eye doc, told me to wear things on my feet and to lose weight and gave me a five page leaflet and come back in a week, gave me metformin and ta ra.
Now what ?
 
The only figure that makes sense of those you have mentioned is the 60 which sounds like a HBA1C, but the previous 20&38 if they were HBA1C would not make sense as they are not Diabetic range.
 
I have been taking statins and bp meds for approx 4 years, changed drs 2 years ago as I moved.
back a few years ago my then drs said my blood sugar was a bit high and to watch it, end of convo.
After two years at new surgery and several blood tests in that time, I got a call asking me to go in see the nurse, she the floored me with type 2 diagnosis, asked if any ie had mentioned it before as previous test show 20 then 38 now it’s 60, poked my feet talked about seeing an eye doc, told me to wear things on my feet and to lose weight and gave me a five page leaflet and come back in a week, gave me metformin and ta ra.
Now what ?
Iam to new too this myself been borderline for years now before Christmas iam Dangerous .iam finding it hard to understand myself there not very helpful.
Just as if iam a doctor and should know .I got appointment 1 March to see nurse not looking forward to it as my tests done daily up and down. Cont eat at regular times. Plus have a stoma bag after hospital blunder. I have to be careful. Because had too up my sugar and salt intake .hopefully you get on ok not very helpful I have found had my eyes done lasts week .dont drive as seem you might have sore eyes after .brilliant I did drive got told off said how am I too get here not going on bus trying to keep safe x
 
The only figure that makes sense of those you have mentioned is the 60 which sounds like a HBA1C, but the previous 20&38 if they were HBA1C would not make sense as they are not Diabetic range.
Plus what's the HBA 1C stand for please xx
 
Iam to new too this myself been borderline for years now before Christmas iam Dangerous .iam finding it hard to understand myself there not very helpful.
Just as if iam a doctor and should know .I got appointment 1 March to see nurse not looking forward to it as my tests done daily up and down. Cont eat at regular times. Plus have a stoma bag after hospital blunder. I have to be careful. Because had too up my sugar and salt intake .hopefully you get on ok not very helpful I have found had my eyes done lasts week .dont drive as seem you might have sore eyes after .brilliant I did drive got told off said how am I too get here not going on bus trying to keep safe x
What do they actually do to your eyes and what are they looking for ?
 
Hi and welcome

As @grovesy says the numbers you mention don't seem to add up to anything logical as regards diabetes apart from the 60 which would likely be an HbA1c reading which is the test used to diagnose diabetes and the threshold is 48 so you are obviously well above that but we have many members who were in 3 figures at diagnosis so not desperately high. The 20 might be a spot Blood Glucose reading usually from a finger prick test which would be pretty high but without knowing for sure what has been measured it is difficult to say and the 38 makes little or no sense. I wonder if you were so shocked by your diagnosis that you misunderstood/misremembered the numbers.

It is good that you have had your feet tested and will be referred for eye screening and yes, always wear slippers in the house to protect your feet. We are prone to damage to the nerves and blood vessels in our eyes and feet and this can make them vulnerable to damage, which we might not notice due to impaired nerves until infection sets in.

As regards the Metformin, make sure to take it in the middle of a substantial meal as it has a reputation for gastric upset.... it is not commonly referred to as "Metfartin" for nothing and wind is sometimes the least of your worries with it, but side effects if you do suffer them can often settle down after a week or two. If they don't, get back in touch with your nurse and ask for slow/modified release version which may alleviate the problem.

As regards diet, diabetes is not just about sugar but all carbohydrates, so you should be looking to cut out the obvious sources of sugar like cakes, biscuits and sweets but also reduce portion size on bread, pasta, rice, couscous, breakfast cereals, pies and pastries. Basically anything made with grains and grain flour and starchy or sweet root veg. Even fruit needs to be rationed and best to avoid the exotic fruits like bananas and pineapple and mangoes etc and opt for a few berries instead. Leafy green veg is great and cauliflower is a diabetics friend as it is so versatile and meat and fish and eggs and cheese and mushrooms and nuts in moderation, and mushrooms and Mediterranean veg like peppers and aubergines and courgettes and tomatoes are all good in moderation... tomatoes are a fruit, so too many particularly cherry tomatoes which are sweeter will raise your Blood Glucose levels.

If you have any queries just ask, but read around the forum and you will find lots of useful information.
 
Thank you sue,
Apart from the first day of metformin and again when I increased as recommended I have had no nasty side effects. With regard to the numbers you at well be right as I’ve got a vague recollection of 48 possibly being mentioned. I didn’t find the nurses were much help tbh. The one kept mentioning portion control, made me feel like I ate a dustbin lid size meal. I have lost weight, large amounts, several times in my life so I know how to lose it or so I thought, now I’m not sure I have a clue lol
 
Hi and welcome

As @grovesy says the numbers you mention don't seem to add up to anything logical as regards diabetes apart from the 60 which would likely be an HbA1c reading which is the test used to diagnose diabetes and the threshold is 48 so you are obviously well above that but we have many members who were in 3 figures at diagnosis so not desperately high. The 20 might be a spot Blood Glucose reading usually from a finger prick test which would be pretty high but without knowing for sure what has been measured it is difficult to say and the 38 makes little or no sense. I wonder if you were so shocked by your diagnosis that you misunderstood/misremembered the numbers.

It is good that you have had your feet tested and will be referred for eye screening and yes, always wear slippers in the house to protect your feet. We are prone to damage to the nerves and blood vessels in our eyes and feet and this can make them vulnerable to damage, which we might not notice due to impaired nerves until infection sets in.

As regards the Metformin, make sure to take it in the middle of a substantial meal as it has a reputation for gastric upset.... it is not commonly referred to as "Metfartin" for nothing and wind is sometimes the least of your worries with it, but side effects if you do suffer them can often settle down after a week or two. If they don't, get back in touch with your nurse and ask for slow/modified release version which may alleviate the problem.

As regards diet, diabetes is not just about sugar but all carbohydrates, so you should be looking to cut out the obvious sources of sugar like cakes, biscuits and sweets but also reduce portion size on bread, pasta, rice, couscous, breakfast cereals, pies and pastries. Basically anything made with grains and grain flour and starchy or sweet root veg. Even fruit needs to be rationed and best to avoid the exotic fruits like bananas and pineapple and mangoes etc and opt for a few berries instead. Leafy green veg is great and cauliflower is a diabetics friend as it is so versatile and meat and fish and eggs and cheese and mushrooms and nuts in moderation, and mushrooms and Mediterranean veg like peppers and aubergines and courgettes and tomatoes are all good in moderation... tomatoes are a fruit, so too many particularly cherry tomatoes which are sweeter will raise your Blood Glucose levels.

If you have any queries just ask, but read around the forum and you will find lots of useful information.
Sorry I have no idea why I wrote hi sue
 
Thank you sue,
Apart from the first day of metformin and again when I increased as recommended I have had no nasty side effects. With regard to the numbers you at well be right as I’ve got a vague recollection of 48 possibly being mentioned. I didn’t find the nurses were much help tbh. The one kept mentioning portion control, made me feel like I ate a dustbin lid size meal. I have lost weight, large amounts, several times in my life so I know how to lose it or so I thought, now I’m not sure I have a clue lol
Some times when people feel overwhelmed it is sometimes better to make small changes that are manageable than to make huge changes that can be daunting.
 
Welcome to the forum @Welshie

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, and that you don’t feel you are getting much help and support from your surgery nurses :(

If you’d like a good overview of T2 diabetes, to get you started, members here frequently recommend Maggie Davey’s Letter and Gretchen Becker’s book T2 Diabetes, the first year, which you can work through gradually and will give you a solid starting point for the years ahead.

Good luck!
 
Aw thanks, yeah I read maggies letter ( 3 times my phone changed it to magpie) found it a very useful read
I’m doing ok to be honest just ticked off with my drs. I have no idea what happens next
 
I am getting very sore eyes. I have Blepharitis and use an eye mask which has been heated b adding to boiling water to heat it up and then add a cover and use the heat to assist the problem but my eyes are continually sore and eyelids are very heavy. I also use Systane as natural tears but the item doesn't give any long lasting relief. Maybe I should use Systane more often? Not sure what else I can do. It could also be due to dry eye having had a cataract op. I have been told that sometimes results from a cataract op. Any advice would be gratefully received.
 
The 'sore eyes' Lyn was warned about was in connection with an annual retinopathy scan procedure - drops are put into the eyes, to dilate the pupils so that once they actually take the photos of your retinas, they are clearly visible. It's to detect whether previous ongoing high blood glucose has caused any damage to the veins at the back of the eyes, which could affect the eyesight - ie to ward off/minimise any damage to the eyesight.

Since the drops dilate the pupils, this means that much more light can get into the eyes than normally does and hence driving thereafter is rather hit and miss - even on the greyest cloudiest day in deepest winter my eyes stream like hell once I get outside into fresh air - and they certainly don't focus very well at all for some hours afterwards. No way would I be safe to drive! - and of course should I have an accident involving the police they'd perfectly correctly throw the book at me for driving under the influence of drugs!! So - don't do it. If you can't get to wherever - ring em up and tell em that you can't get there and back from there without driving, so need an appointment some place else.

Blepharitis is an entirely different problem and not associated with diabetes as far as I know - it is certainly nothing they warn you about once you have diabetes. I'd talk to my opthalmologist for advice on eyedrops if whatever I'd been prescribed wasn't working.
 
Thank you for your advice and I do have regular eye tests and apparently my eyes are in good condition internally. I shall have to see my GP to see if she can advise me what I should be doing. So far I have used Blephasol or Johnson's Baby Shampoo for cleansing and Systane for a condition called Dry Eye. I shall start a regime of cleansing my eyelids and heating my eyelids with an eye pad and massage the eyelids and then using Systane for the gritty feeling.

On a good note I have lost a further 2lbs now. 🙂
 
Thank you for your advice and I do have regular eye tests and apparently my eyes are in good condition internally. I shall have to see my GP to see if she can advise me what I should be doing. So far I have used Blephasol or Johnson's Baby Shampoo for cleansing and Systane for a condition called Dry Eye. I shall start a regime of cleansing my eyelids and heating my eyelids with an eye pad and massage the eyelids and then using Systane for the gritty feeling.

On a good note I have lost a further 2lbs now. 🙂
My OH had some wipes for blepharitis bought off Amazon but I just looked and they are ferociously expensive.
Boots do a blepharitis eye lid foam £8.99 for 100ml.
 
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