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Piskey2019

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Good evening.

My name is Liz and my doctor diagnosed me with Type 2 diabetes today.

I do need to get my weight down and am starting Weightwatchers tomorrow, so trying to absorb everything - but at the moment my head is all over the place (some would say nothing new in that)

Anywho just popped in to say hello 🙂 and give a quick wave
 
Welcome & straight away you ae heading in the right direction. Good luck tomorow🙂
 
Thank you Hobie.

Probably it will make more sense tomorrow morning 🙂
 
Hi @Piskey2019 welcome to the forum 🙂. How did your weight watchers go?
 
Hi. I'm afraid my first WW day didn't go well. I am so used to SW that I found changing over very difficult.
I have been checking out various SW and diabetes blogs etc., to see how to incorporate it and am going to have a go at that. I think for me it's better to stick to what I know and give it a real go.
 
Slimming clubs are not all that much use to a diabetic.They are after all, about losing weight, when what we need to do is control blood glucose.
Once the metabolism starts to recover from the high influx of carbohydrate then things should become more normal and weightloss is often a lot easier, but the fact that weight gain is a symptom rather than the cause of Type two diabetes is often lost on doctors and nurses.
 
Good evening.

My name is Liz and my doctor diagnosed me with Type 2 diabetes today.

I do need to get my weight down and am starting Weightwatchers tomorrow, so trying to absorb everything - but at the moment my head is all over the place (some would say nothing new in that)

Anywho just popped in to say hello 🙂 and give a quick wave
Hi Liz, welcome to the forum 🙂 I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis, how did it come about? Do you have any family history of diabetes? The good news is that, now you have a diagnosis, you can set about improving your situation. Diabetes is a serious condition, but it is manageable, and it's more than likely that by learning how to manage your blood sugar levels well you will end up feeling much happier and healthier than you may have for some time 🙂

Whilst weight loss can be an important factor, if you need to lose some, the first thing to address is reviewing your diet and learning how to tailor it so that it is friendlier to your blood sugar levels 🙂 Quite often, the modifications you make will result in weight loss without 'trying' - although, of course you will have changed your diet! The most important thing to watch out for is anything containing carbohydrates. This doesn't mean that you need to cut them all out of your diet, but we all have different tolerances, so you need to discover your own and what works for you as an individual. I'd suggest starting by reading Maggie Davey's letter, which will give you a good overview and an idea of what to look out for. Also, highly-recommended is Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year by Gretchen Becker, which will guide you through these early weeks and months, so I urge you to get hold of a copy 🙂

As I said earlier, it's most important to understand your food choices and what effect they are having on your blood sugar levels. The only real way to do this is to test your blood sugar before and after eating, as described in Test,Review, Adjust by Alan S. If you don't have a meter and a prescription for test strips (these are often not issued in order to 'save money', although it's a false economy, because the more you know in this game, the better controlled you will be and probably therefore need less medication in future) then it's really worth funding your own. The cheapest option we have come across is the SD Codefree Meter which has test strips at around £8 for 50. Read Testing on a budget to understand how you can use the precious strips efficiently and economically 🙂 I'd recommend starting off by writing a Food Diary, noting down the amount of carbohydrates in everything you eat and drink each day. This will give you a very good, true picture of your current carbohydrate consumption, and you can then use it to look for areas where you might improve things by perhaps reducing portions of some things, or finding more blood sugar-friendly replacements (e.g. have less potato and more green veg, replace rice with cauliflower rice - there are plenty of suggestion in our Food and Recipes section 🙂) If you get a meter then you will also be able to note down the before and after readings, and eventually you will see a clear pattern of what foods you tolerate well, and what you might need to change. It's all a bit tedious - or interesting, depending on your point of view! - but it is well worth it. In time you shouldn't need to test as often, except occasionally when you try new things, or as 'confidence' tests to ensure you are still on track 🙂

Finally, if you can get some regular, daily exercise in then this will really help - not so much in it's effect on losing weight, but principally because it will make your body more sensitive to the insulin it is producing. This means less insulin is needed by your body, and can mean that less of that sugar/ carbohydrate will turn to fat - similarly, reducing your overall carbohydrate intake will mean your body needs to produce less insulin, so you can perhaps see how all this works together to help your body manage itself better 🙂 Be patient, because this can all take a little while, but once you have 'cracked it' you will be set for a much healthier future 🙂

Please let us know if we can help in any way, if you have any questions or concerns. There are lots of friendly, experienced people here who will be more than happy to put your mind at ease 🙂
 
Thank you both for your replies - I do get a bit stressed with 'official' dieting as it were, so will see how things go otherwise.

I have found the book you have recommended Northerner and have ordered it. Should arrive sometime on Friday.

My diagnosis came about (I should say that my mother is also type 2), because I have had an incredibly dry mouth for the last couple of months, felt like i was having to peel my tongue of the roof of my mouth. As a result I always have a drink with me including in church which I don't like drinking in church, but no-one minds and you do what you have to. Also I was getting incredibly tired so much so I couldn't really function properly.

Anyway I went to see the doctor about it because i'm on several different painkillers - (he has taken me off one because of the potential effects on the kidneys) as well as high blood pressure pills and I was hoping it was one of those that was causing the problem.

I did already have a meter (my ex-husband was convinced I was diabetic which I wasn't at the time but to keep him happy I got one) and was checking my blood levels and recording it. I took it down to the doctors and said what was happening and showed him the results and he straightaway said you're diabetic. Great. I do have to have the blood tests tomorrow morning, but from what my doctor said it sounds like it is a formality and he has already coded me as diabetic (I can check some of my records online). My meter is code free and I even bought a new one to make sure it wasn't a fault in the machine.

Diet wise I have already discovered that Frijj milkshake seems to spike my blood sugars :-/.
 
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Thank you both for your replies - I do get a bit stressed with 'official' dieting as it were, so will see how things go otherwise.

I have found the book you have recommended Northerner and have ordered it. Should arrive sometime on Friday.

My diagnosis came about (I should say that my mother is also type 2), because I have had an incredibly dry mouth for the last couple of months, felt like i was having to peel my tongue of the roof of my mouth. As a result I always have a drink with me including in church which I don't like drinking in church, but no-one minds and you do what you have to. Also I was getting incredibly tired so much so I couldn't really function properly.

Anyway I went to see the doctor about it because i'm on several different painkillers - (he has taken me off one because of the potential effects on the kidneys) as well as high blood pressure pills and I was hoping it was one of those that was causing the problem.

I did already have a meter (my ex-husband was convinced I was diabetic which I wasn't at the time but to keep him happy I got one) and was checking my blood levels and recording it. I took it down to the doctors and said what was happening and showed him the results and he straightaway said you're diabetic. Great. I do have to have the blood tests tomorrow morning, but from what my doctor said it sounds like it is a formality and he has already coded me as diabetic (I can check some of my records online). My meter is code free and I even bought a new one to make sure it wasn't a fault in the machine.

Diet wise I have already discovered that Frijj milkshake seems to spike my blood sugars :-/.
Sounds like you are on the right track 🙂 My advice would be to try and keep your meals simple and boring for a while, whilst you get accustomed to the sort of response you are getting in your blood sugar levels 🙂 Milkshakes and smoothies are generally to be avoided as they can be particularly carb-heavy, whether that is due to added sugar, lactose in the milk, or fruit sugars - moreover, because they are liquids they get very rapidly digested and hit the levels very quickly. Ideally, what you are aiming for are meals containing ingredients that will digest slowly and steadily as they will have a somilarly slow and steady impact on your levels. You might like to look at the GL (Glycaemic Load) Diet - it's not a weight loss diet, but tells you how to combine ingredients so that they digest in the manner I have described. The GL Diet for Dummies is a very good introduction 🙂

Let us know how things go tomorrow, and if your GP tells you not to test, you can ask him how else you are supposed to know what items you can safely retain in your diet and what you should reduce or exclude - testing is the only way to ascertain this! 🙂
 
Thank you Northerner will look into the GL Diet. The milkshake did give me a bit of a surprise but at least now I know.

Will remember that bit about testing, and I have read about DESMOND, but I don't know if my surgery offers it. My mum doesn't think they offered it to her, but I will ask them tomorrow and see what they say - don't ask don't get as they say.
 
The Frijj milkshake I just checked is 11 percent carbs, so a 400ml bottle - at 44 gm of carbs, exceeds my whole day's carb target.
It has sugar, and modified starch, plus the lactose from the milk - so there is no wonder that it jacked up your blood glucose.
 
Thank you Drummer that would certainly explain it. Frijj is off my list now anyway. That's ono thing I've learned.
 
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