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I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes
I was rather surprised that the Dr just told me to stop cakes and biscuits - no other diet info was given. I was prescribed tables - 1 a day for the 1st week - then 2 a day. I have to return in 2months for a retest.
Any tips- ? Do I need to buy a Blood glucose level metre ?
Any help would be really appreciated -
John in Cornwall
 
Hi John and welcome to the forum. Did they tell you what you results were at all?
Testing is a great way of seeing how different foods affect you, everyone is different.
Watch the amount and types of carbs that you eat as well. And also be careful with the amount and types of fruit that you eat.
Other more experienced people will also help with advice. This is a great place for help and advice.
P.S. I love Cornwall. Most of my childhood holidays were spent there.
 
Hi Stitch- no mention of the level of Glucose - I have so far stopped cakes and biscuits and especially Cornish Cream teas !!!
Can you recommend a good easy to use Blood Glucose Monitor Please ?
Many Thanks - I'm on the Moor - very isolated here !!!
 
I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes
I was rather surprised that the Dr just told me to stop cakes and biscuits - no other diet info was given. I was prescribed tables - 1 a day for the 1st week - then 2 a day. I have to return in 2months for a retest.
Any tips- ? Do I need to buy a Blood glucose level metre ?
Any help would be really appreciated -
John in Cornwall
Hi John, welcome to the forum 🙂 Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, how did it come about?

I'm guessing you have been prescribed metformin. Be aware that many people suffer gastric upsets as a side-effect (mostly wind), but this should subside over a couple of weeks - if you find it becomes intolerable then do go back to your doctor and ask for the 'slow-release' version, which many people tolerate better 🙂

The advice you have been given is totally inadequate :( You need to consider not just sugary items, but ALL carbohydrates, as these are what cause your blood sugar levels to rise the most. So things like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and things made with flour are all things you need to be careful of. You don't need to give all these up, but you do need to find out what you tolerate well, and in what quantities, and what you need to steer clear of. I would suggest starting a food diary and noting down the amount of carbohydrates, in grams, in everything you eat and drink. You can usually find this information on food packaging, or if not (e.g. for fresh fruit or veg etc.) you can look it up on google and weigh amounts of things like rice, pasta etc.

You ask about a meter - yes, you should definitely get one. If your doctor has not supplied one (and he/she doesn't sound the type who would, given the dietary advice you were given - more likely to tell you you don't need to test 🙄)) the the cheapest option we have come across is the SD Codefree Meter which has test strips at around £8 for 50 - many of our members use this as test strips can be up to £30 for 50 for some other types and they all do the same basic job to the same standards! 🙂 I would suggest then reading Test,Review, Adjust by Alan S in order to understand how you can use blood tests to determine your tolerance for various things in order to tailor your diet to suit your aim of getting good control of your levels 🙂

For further reading, I would recommend reading Jennifer's Advice and Maggie Davey's letter, and also getting a copy of Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year by Gretchen Becker. These will give you a good grounding in what it is all about - the more you understand, the easier and less confusing it will be! 🙂

There is a lot to take in and a lot to learn! Don't expect instant success, all this takes time and a bit of hard work as you build up experience of your own personal reactions. The prize is well-controlled diabetes which will hugely reduce your risk of developing any of the many problems associated with poorly-controlled diabetes. Many people find out that they become happier and healthier due to the adjustments they make 🙂

Good luck, and please aks any questions you may have, we will be very happy to help 🙂
 
Ohhhh ... What a great reply - thanks. I am taking metformin , one a day to start with then I have to take 2 a day after the 1st week.
I did indeed get the impression that the dr was a bit disinterested. This all came about when I noticed a change in my visits to the loo and a urine test showed a bit of sugar. Mr Regular GP (not the one who gave me the metformin) ordered up a blood test. The surgery called me in to see the locum doctor who simply said: "Blood test results show you as type 2 diabetic" - stop cakes and biscuits - take these tablets and come back in 2 months for further blood tests. There was no mention of carbs or anything else.. no literature or guides so I am having to start from scratch !!!! I have now ordered the codifier metre and a sully of strips and extra lances. Next step is to get the books you recommended. Needless to say - I have stopped the 4 Hobnob biscuits with my afternoon cup of tea..( favourite of mine ) stopped the cornish cream teas - stopped putting a tablespoon full of sugar on my 3 weetabix in the mornings - and have started to walk 1 or two miles in the mornings.
Thanks for some superb advice
John in Cornwall
 
stopped putting a tablespoon full of sugar on my 3 weetabix in the mornings
You might have to reconsider the three Weetabix as well, John, many people find they send levels soaring 😱 Actually, one of the better breakfasts you can eat is bacon and eggs - mostly protein, so won't have a big impact on your levels and keeps you full for longer 🙂

A lot of people find that following a GL (Glycaemic Load) diet is helpful. It's not a weight loss diet, but an approach to selecting and combining foods so that they have a slow, steady impact on blood glucose levels. The GL Diet for Dummies is a very good introduction 🙂

Well done on the walking also! Regular exercise makes our bodies more sensitive to the insulin, so this can help to keep blood sugar levels under better control, as well as giving lots of other benefits, of course - hopefully you have some pleasant walks where you live! 🙂
 
Hi
Thanks for the Weetabix advice.
I have just downloaded my blood test results:
Haemoglobin A1c level - ifs standardised 113mmol/mol
An HbA1c of 48mmol/mol is recommended as the cut off point for diagnosing diabetes mellitus and is considered a good control for people with diabetes.
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So reading this I assume my level was 113mmol - which is rather frightening.
John
 
Hi
Thanks for the Weetabix advice.
I have just downloaded my blood test results:
Haemoglobin A1c level - ifs standardised 113mmol/mol
An HbA1c of 48mmol/mol is recommended as the cut off point for diagnosing diabetes mellitus and is considered a good control for people with diabetes.
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So reading this I assume my level was 113mmol - which is rather frightening.
John
Yes. It's not uncommon to have levels like that on diagnosis, but it usually comes down fairly quickly once you start making adjustments. It will take a period of adjustment, but hopefully by the time of your next test in two months you will be able to report a much improved situation 🙂
 
Hi John, welcome to the group...

Great job in starting to get control of this disease..... It takes a bit of work but you should soon see the rewards
 
Hello and welcome from a fellow T2.
 
Hi John
You are a good site with loads of help available. As Northerner has said it is ANY carbs that will convert to glucose once inside you and your stomach does not care where they have come from, sugar, fruit, Weetabix, hobnobs. It is all the same to your blood. So you may find it useful to start by looking at the carbohydrate information on the back of whatever you are choosing for food. It is a bit of an eye opener!! ( Ignore the bit after that which says of which sugars it make no difference). Just looking more carefully may help you to make some changes. I am amazed how tasty a rich tea biscuit seems now, where I could have eaten half a pack of plain choc digestives pre D.

The BG meter will help you to get to know what certain foods do to your BG levels. We are all different and react differently to differently to foods. As you learn more you will have the chance to make to changes.
 
Hi John
You are a good site with loads of help available. As Northerner has said it is ANY carbs that will convert to glucose once inside you and your stomach does not care where they have come from, sugar, fruit, Weetabix, hobnobs. It is all the same to your blood. So you may find it useful to start by looking at the carbohydrate information on the back of whatever you are choosing for food. It is a bit of an eye opener!! ( Ignore the bit after that which says of which sugars it make no difference). Just looking more carefully may help you to make some changes. I am amazed how tasty a rich tea biscuit seems now, where I could have eaten half a pack of plain choc digestives pre D.

The BG meter will help you to get to know what certain foods do to your BG levels. We are all different and react differently to differently to foods. As you learn more you will have the chance to make to changes.
Yes... I,ve obviously been doing a lot of damage.... every afternoon a large mug of tea with 4 sweetex - and 4 or five Hobnobs... and on hot days the tea was substituted for a pint of orange juice - the stuff that comes concentrated and you add water ... - I'm still trying to figure out what to replace the afternoon snack with !! However this is a great forum and I'm sure I shall learn a lot.
John
 
The one that most people use is the SD codefree meter, nice and easy to use and the test strips are the cheapest about.
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
I had family that used to live near Penzance.
Hi Stitch..
I have ordered the blood test monitor so I'm well on the way now. My A1c level was 113 mol/mol so after reading that yours is down to 45 gives me something to aim for !!!
I love Penzance !!!!
 
Hi John
You are a good site with loads of help available. As Northerner has said it is ANY carbs that will convert to glucose once inside you and your stomach does not care where they have come from, sugar, fruit, Weetabix, hobnobs. It is all the same to your blood. So you may find it useful to start by looking at the carbohydrate information on the back of whatever you are choosing for food. It is a bit of an eye opener!! ( Ignore the bit after that which says of which sugars it make no difference). Just looking more carefully may help you to make some changes. I am amazed how tasty a rich tea biscuit seems now, where I could have eaten half a pack of plain choc digestives pre D.

The BG meter will help you to get to know what certain foods do to your BG levels. We are all different and react differently to differently to foods. As you learn more you will have the chance to make to changes.
Question: Thanks for the info on watching Carbs - and ignoring the bit which says"of which is sugars" What daily level of Carbs should I be aiming for ?
 
Some go very low Carbhydrates lower than 100 grammes a day! I personally can't do very low!
I found that you have to find what works for you and can stick with most of the time, and can maintain long term!
 
Some go very low Carbhydrates lower than 100 grammes a day! I personally can't do very low!
I found that you have to find what works for you and can stick with most of the time, and can maintain long term!
I read on the Diabetic's-uk page that for men it's 300 grm per day...which seems rather a lot ... have I read it wrong ?
 
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