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Bruce Stephens said:
I think typically a week or so, here. (I presume it depends on how busy a lab is rather than anything intrinsic to the test.)
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Thanks Bruce, the other results were really fast, so much so not only did I hear the next day but my GP told me she is organising a liver scan and an appointment at the Lipids clinic, so everything else moving fast, 🙂
 
Leadinglights said:
Normally fairly quickly, definitely worth checking tomorrow. The delay is sometimes because the doctor has to review before it is released.
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Ahh Ok, I do check on the App, I was really shocked when I did check though as she has updated my weight and BMI so my BMI has gone from 27 to 35! not something I am proud of
 
Jenny65 said:
This is interesting as its similar to Lipotrim which has a whole information page about the benefits of following it (with medical supervision) if you are T2 diabetic. I have filled in the patient screening form and my GP has approved for me to follow it, which is basically 3 shakes a day (600 cals a day) to lose 10% of my weight as a start up to long term weight loss. I have ordered 4 weeks of shakes and a shaker container and will start this on 22nd July when I get back from my sons wedding in Ireland. At the moment I am eating low fat, low sugar, low salt and low carb (thank god I dont have any allergies or I would have to eat just air and water! 🙂 ) The VLCD is best followed after cutting back on carbs so it wont be such a shock to my system but it looks just like the Newcastle Diet so hopefully I will have success with it too.

I hope they allow me to try and manage with life style changes as I suspect the biggest change will be stopping smoking as that can apparently affect insulin levels as well as increase the chances of high cholesterol. Walking every day to get my fruit and veg will be good as the shop is 2 miles away so its a 4 mile daily walk and 30 mins using my aerobic stepper for me. I have basically been a coach potato, snaking on unhealthy rubbish, smoking etc since working from home. I am ashamed as I work for an ambulance trust so should know the statistics but in my head they didn't apply to me, or there was always tomorrow to get fit. Oddly enough I embarked on a 3 day juice detox just before the blood test, I struggled to drink them each day, one was an activated charcoal drink that took toxins from your body, but mainly they were all made from vegetables and fruit. I managed 1 full day but on day 2 was hungry and snacked on ham! I think if I knew about my health I would have stuck to it to the letter.

I wont be allowed to follow lipotrim if I am on meds as the doctor has to agree for you to come off them for the duration of the diet. Not sure it it is the same with statins for high cholesterol but I guess weight loss for both conditions can only be a good thing.

Thank you for responding @travellor , I really appreciate it

How far along are you on your journey?
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Ten years after diagnosis.
Reversed eight years ago.
No diabetic complications.
Eating a healthy, Mediterranean diet (mostly!)
 
As said earlier, drink the wine, enjoy the day.
I did put in a lot of work to reverse my diabetes, but I also promised myself I wouldn't let diabetes take over my life.
It is possible to fall into the trap of worrying about a one off finger prick reading, and beating yourself up about it.
I just set out to have a normal life again, and "normal" people do have the odd spike.

Having said that, all alcohol isn't equal.
And even if your liver may be processing the alcohol, it's not a free pass.
Beer is high in carbs true.
(some more than others)
But so is desert wine, some red wines, spirits like rum, some types of brandy, even whiskies aren't equal, but as said gin isn't, and I did try a 80% proof vodka once that definitely wasn't.
If it tastes sweet, it's high in sugar, so it'll come back at you.
Mixers can hide that, tonic will take the edge off sweetness.

But, for one day, you need to remember you won't have that day again, and while some restraint is good, (I could eat a family box of donuts as a snack previously), I wouldn't beat myself up for a glass of wine and a slice of cake 🙂
 
I remember someone on here saying, it's not the alcohol that does the damage it too much alcohol and the temptation to then have high carb snacks that does, or something like that.
Enjoy your day!!!!
 
Leadinglights said:
I remember someone on here saying, it's not the alcohol that does the damage it too much alcohol and the temptation to then have high carb snacks that does, or something like that.
Enjoy your day!!!!
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No no no.
Again that's purely focused on BG.
Too much alcohol in itself is bad, regardless of being terrified you'll succumb to a bag of chips on the way home!
God help if you have a meat and potato pie with them!
 
That was my sense of humour there, just in case anyone happened to wonder!

The serum test Jenny has reported to us, can be easily added to any 'armful of blood' test we happen to have. I've requested it to be added at odd times over the years - it is the equivalent of a fingerprick test using a glucometer, but simply done by the lab rather than by anyone using a glucometer and a testing strip. Having used various glucometers over the decades, if I wanted to check on its accuracy, I'd have the meter and strip ready in my hand and nabbed an extra drip of blood onto it as the phlebotomist removed the needle from my arm. Note whatever my meter said, and compare that to the lab result when that came back.

Nobody without diabetes would ever have a result of 19.8 cos their pancreas should have taken care of it before it ever got that high. The question is - how long has Jenny's body been unable to take care of it? Anyone's guess of course so waste of effort speculating, and of course she'll be getting some of the 'essential 15' annual tests as soon as possible. (Jen. I say 'some of' cos at least some of the 15 only ever apply to 'younger' women) See
https://www.knowdiabetes.org.uk/know-more/type-2-diabetes/15-healthcare-essentials/
 
travellor said:
As said earlier, drink the wine, enjoy the day.
I did put in a lot of work to reverse my diabetes, but I also promised myself I wouldn't let diabetes take over my life.
It is possible to fall into the trap of worrying about a one off finger prick reading, and beating yourself up about it.
I just set out to have a normal life again, and "normal" people do have the odd spike.

Having said that, all alcohol isn't equal.
And even if your liver may be processing the alcohol, it's not a free pass.
Beer is high in carbs true.
(some more than others)
But so is desert wine, some red wines, spirits like rum, some types of brandy, even whiskies aren't equal, but as said gin isn't, and I did try a 80% proof vodka once that definitely wasn't.
If it tastes sweet, it's high in sugar, so it'll come back at you.
Mixers can hide that, tonic will take the edge off sweetness.

But, for one day, you need to remember you won't have that day again, and while some restraint is good, (I could eat a family box of donuts as a snack previously), I wouldn't beat myself up for a glass of wine and a slice of cake 🙂
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Very well put, and I share your love of doughnuts in a previous life 🙂
 
trophywench said:
That was my sense of humour there, just in case anyone happened to wonder!

The serum test Jenny has reported to us, can be easily added to any 'armful of blood' test we happen to have. I've requested it to be added at odd times over the years - it is the equivalent of a fingerprick test using a glucometer, but simply done by the lab rather than by anyone using a glucometer and a testing strip. Having used various glucometers over the decades, if I wanted to check on its accuracy, I'd have the meter and strip ready in my hand and nabbed an extra drip of blood onto it as the phlebotomist removed the needle from my arm. Note whatever my meter said, and compare that to the lab result when that came back.

Nobody without diabetes would ever have a result of 19.8 cos their pancreas should have taken care of it before it ever got that high. The question is - how long has Jenny's body been unable to take care of it? Anyone's guess of course so waste of effort speculating, and of course she'll be getting some of the 'essential 15' annual tests as soon as possible. (Jen. I say 'some of' cos at least some of the 15 only ever apply to 'younger' women) See
https://www.knowdiabetes.org.uk/know-more/type-2-diabetes/15-healthcare-essentials/
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Thanks for the link Trophywench, theres some good information on there. To be honest the support I have received has come from this forum, My GP and the nurse all seemed reluctant to offer any advice apart from saying more tests are needed. It was my own decision to embark on weight loss, exercise and give up smoking, seems strange as I was asking loads of questions too so sort of manipulated a response, the only one the GP told me when I asked if there was a leaflet on diabetes she could give me, she said no, dont google just use the NHS site. But I am glad I ignored and did google as I found you all and you have answered and reassured me so much so thanks for all the support. I also asked if I could go on a VLCD and she said yes as long as I am not om medication but then she said they comment about alcohol raising your blood pressure when I asked if I could have one drink at the wedding, so not reassured the GP understands diabetes which is a concern considering how common it is.
 
Just bought a diabetic recipe book from Amazon, it looks good and had great reviews, although one concern is, ideally I need a recipe book for diabetes with high cholesterol book as the diabetes one probably is too high fat. If anyone has a book of recipes that are suitable and can recommend it, please do.
 
Jenny65 said:
Just bought a diabetic recipe book from Amazon, it looks good and had great reviews, although one concern is, ideally I need a recipe book for diabetes with high cholesterol book as the diabetes one probably is too high fat. If anyone has a book of recipes that are suitable and can recommend it, please do.
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Personally, I stuck to NHS advice, cut down on high GI food, and cut the calories, and exercised.
 
Jenny65 said:
Just bought a diabetic recipe book from Amazon, it looks good and had great reviews, although one concern is, ideally I need a recipe book for diabetes with high cholesterol book as the diabetes one probably is too high fat. If anyone has a book of recipes that are suitable and can recommend it, please do.
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You could just substitute low or reduced fat instead of the full fat ingredients as long as they are not higher carbs which sometimes they are.
 
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