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Marko2020

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So after 5 months my sugars went from 96 to now 94. I'm on 3 different diabetes pills, however I was eating all wrong.

I know i can get this down without going on insilin and hope they let me do it.

My triglycerides have gone up though to 5.4 mmol/L and I need to work on that.

Is there anything more I can do to get all these down? I try not to have much carbs but I can't have vegetables as I'm just sick with them and the taste and texture etc.

I did eat a lot of bad stuff and I know if I didn't have them then that result would be much lower, however it does scare me it isn't going down much. A year ago I was 106 . I've lost 8 pounds as well and going to try do more. I've been housebound for about 2 years so that doesn't help.

I don't know if this is diabetes related but I have a bad pain in my upper right stomach and feels like a muscle stuff and has been like this for about a year. Drs don't know what's going on either as liver test and kidney came back not bad.

Any foods anyone can recommend I add?
 
On the plus side at least things don't seem to be getting any worse, so what 'bad stuff' are you eating? I would have thought that the thing which would be most likely to bring your BG down further would be to cut that stuff out.
 
I was really bad. When my brother died I just lost the will to live. I had 1 to 2 chocolate bars a night, crisps and ice lollies.
I won't be doing that any more as I've come to realise food comfort doesn't solve the issues of him being gone etc.

I juat hope it isn't too late though and that my pancreas is kind of working.

I'm on metformin 4 tablets a day. Glimiperide the highest dose and recently stiplaglipton. They tried me on rybelus but it gave me too many side effects.
 
One thing you might do @Marko2020 is to think about getting a meter and doing some testing.

With HbA1c's up in the 90's, you will probably have spot readings (what you get from a meter) mostly between 10 and 20 whereas what you are looking for are readings between 5 and 10. What you will find is that your levels increase after eating but the rise will depend on what you have eaten and you can use that information to see what things give you the smaller increases. That way you can adjust your diet to suit you.

Its an approach that suited me and many others on the forum. In the early days I cut out a piece of cake with my afternoon brew, solely on the finding that it would shove my BG well into double figures, as would a coffee shop cappuccino. Anything with wheat flour in it also did the same but this time instead of cutting things out, I found ways and means of reducing the quantities in my diet.

For me,blood glucose monitoring can be a very powerful tool when it comes to working out the best diet provided you look at the results in the round. You can get very confused and unnecessarily worried if you try to look at the results in too much detail.
 
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One thing you might do @Marko2020 is to think about getting a meter and doing some testing.

With HbA1c's up in the 90's, you will probably have spot readings (what you get from a meter) mostly between 10 and 20 whereas what you are looking for are readings between 5 and 10. What you will find is that your levels increase after eating but the rise will depend on what you have eaten and you can use that information to see what things give you the smaller increases. That way you can adjust your diet to suit you.

Its an approach that suited me and many others on the forum. In the early days I cut out a piece of cake with my afternoon brew, solely on the finding that it would shove my BG well into double figures, as would a coffee shop cappuccino. Anything with wheat flour in it also did the same but this time instead of cutting things out, I found ways and means of reducing the quantities in my diet.

For me,blood glucose monitoring can be a very powerful tool when it comes to working out the best diet provided you look at the results in the round. You can get very confused and unnecessarily worried if you try to look at the results in too much detail.
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I would wish every newly diagnosed person to be able to do this, at least for a few months, rather than rely on perhaps out-of date info from whomever is assigned from their surgery.
 
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Thank you very much, I'm going to try ask for a meter so I cana test. I want to make wiser choices as I don't like being this high.
 
Marko2020 said:
Thank you very much, I'm going to try ask for a meter so I cana test. I want to make wiser choices as I don't like being this high.
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Good luck with that. GPs, in accordance with NICE Guidance, often won't prescribe test meters and strips. It's shortsighted - but achieves a short term economy. Many T2s choose to self-fund meters and strips.

Virtually every meter requires their unique test strips and the cost is with the strips, rather than the meter. A cheaper meter probably has more expensive strips!
 
I've had diabetes for 12 years now and it's just the past 2 years I've lost control, ever since I went on anti psychotic drugs. I'm going to fight against them and not eat when they make you . It's very hard as it takes over your thinking and that's all you think about.

The health center just called and diabetic nurse wants to talk with me. If they say about insilin I won't do it as I know I can beat this by cutting out lots of junk food and making wiser choices. I'm glad my sugar level went down a tiny bit but it's still in the 90s and that isn't good.
 
Marko2020 said:
I've had diabetes for 12 years now and it's just the past 2 years I've lost control, ever since I went on anti psychotic drugs. I'm going to fight against them and not eat when they make you . It's very hard as it takes over your thinking and that's all you think about.

The health center just called and diabetic nurse wants to talk with me. If they say about insilin I won't do it as I know I can beat this by cutting out lots of junk food and making wiser choices. I'm glad my sugar level went down a tiny bit but it's still in the 90s and that isn't good.
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It sounds like you're in a very tough situation :(. Would it be worth asking your diabetic nurse (or whoever's prescribing your antipsychotics) to refer you to a diabetes specialist Psychologist, if one exists in your geographical area? Failing that, a Psychologist in your mental health team would be worth a try.
 
Sincere condolences for the loss of your brother @Marko2020

And good luck with the overhaul you are planning to make on your menu. I’m sure you’ll begin to feel much better once you’ve cut out the junk and your levels start to gently come down towards the recommended range.

The monitoring and observing technique that @Docb mentions is a very clear and immediate way of seeing how your body is coping with foods you are eating. Especially if you have ‘before’ and ‘2 hrs after’ readings to see the rise from the meal.
 
I have a medical review on 21st October with the psychiatrist so I'm going to ask to wean off them pills as I was only on them for sleep. They don't even work for that .

I'm just hoping the diabetic nurse will let me try beat this by changes before she tries insilin as I've had 90s and 100s for 2 years now. I got diabetes so young at the age of 28. I still feel I'm not type 2.
 
Insulin, if offered could be a really useful help while you sort everything else out. I was on insulin for about a year and came off it.
 
Marko2020 said:
I have a medical review on 21st October with the psychiatrist so I'm going to ask to wean off them pills as I was only on them for sleep. They don't even work for that .

I'm just hoping the diabetic nurse will let me try beat this by changes before she tries insilin as I've had 90s and 100s for 2 years now. I got diabetes so young at the age of 28. I still feel I'm not type 2.
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If, @Marko2020, you feel you might not be T2, then are you thinking you might be T1? The treatment path for T1 includes insulin - many times a day. Or do you think you might be some form of T3(a-k)? Unwise eating choices leading to diabetes are not normal indicators for a T3 diagnosis.

As @stackingcups has just said, insulin could be a really useful medical aid to getting your BG into a much better place. Meanwhile with a sustained and seriously elevated BG for 2 years that is not only putting you at considerable risk of physical damage to your body but will not be good for your mental state. When I have longer periods with high BG it makes me very lethargic, stops me from thinking clearly and both these factors seem to increase (worsen) my natural insulin resistance making it harder to manage my BG properly.

Don't fear insulin, if that is offered. It's not difficult to self administer nor painful and it might be exactly what you need as an interim recovery path. Yes, it does include some "faff" and can be inconvenient. But all of that is manageable and something that is not a psychotic medication might be ideal for getting you back to normal BG levels and able to think more clearly - in my NON-MEDICAL opinion.
 
With all my mental health problems it's hard enough trying to live as it is without added insilin added to the mix. I can barely look after myself as it is. That's why I'm going to try everything I can do. I remember they offered me rybelus but I refused it because of bad side effects but I may try it again.
 
I know I'm just so scared of needles and with having ocd i get obsessed with checking etc and when I see high numbers I panic etc. It's hard dealing with diabetes and mental health. I'm also bed bound and have been for 2 years due to sciatica and now my body isn't conditioned.
 
Can I turn this round everyone or is my pancreas done? Being bed bound for 2 years with no exercise has been very tough and I struggle even now. Will stopping the junk food make any difference at all?

I'm just worried I do all this and my results don't change. I would of thought if my pancreas has stopped then I would be a lot worse and not lowered at all.
 
Marko2020 said:
Can I turn this round everyone or is my pancreas done? Being bed bound for 2 years with no exercise has been very tough and I struggle even now. Will stopping the junk food make any difference at all?

I'm just worried I do all this and my results don't change. I would of thought if my pancreas has stopped then I would be a lot worse and not lowered at all.
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There is every reason to be hopeful that by cutting out the 'junk' foods and eating a low carb diet will have a positive effect. Do you do your own shopping and cooking or are you reliant on others, if so it is important that they understand your dietary needs.
If you spend a little time looking at some of the meal plans on the DUK site or on the Freshwell program https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/ you may find there will be something that you could adopt.
Many do find a low carb approach very successful and that is no more than 130g carbs not just sugar per day, it is not NO carbs so you can still have some foods with carbs but you need to make good choices and watch portion size.
You could spend a little time keeping a realistic food diary of everything you eat and drink with an estimate of the carbs to see how far from the suggested amount and it will help to see where to could make some savings to get close to that. It may be that 1 slice of bread, 2 potatoes rather than 4, half a portion of rice or pasta would make a big difference as well as cutting out any cakes, biscuits or crisps or other high carb snacks.
However it may be that for you something like the Soups and Shakes low calorie regime could give you a kick start in getting your levels down and that in itself could improve how you feel. High blood glucose affects every cell in the body including the brain.
 
I eat a lot of chicken nuggets etc. I don't know if they are bad or not? I have someone who cooks for me as i can't walk but they make things that go in the oven or grill more. I'm changing potatoes to baked and chips to potato wedges.

I keep getting loads of gas lately and acid reflux. No medication the dr gives me works except gaviscon.
 
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