Fruit info

[Stupot]

Hi everyone, still getting to grips with my type 2, my question is are Apples, Pears & Oranges ok regards the sugars contained within them? I understand about tropical fruits being not so good so trying to find fruits that are suitable, also I might add I am trying to lose some weight as well as dealing with the Diabetes.
Secondly what about tin fruit in Juice with evaporated milk?
Lastly fully skimmed redtop milk Vs Blue top full fat milk, I keep reading your better off with the fat than you are with the carbs in the redtop?

Thankyou to those that can maybe provide some useful information.

 

[Leadinglights]

I would place apples, pears and oranges in the middle when it comes to carbs, bananas, grapes, pineapple, mango etc being high and berries being low.
Tinned Fruit even in juice is not so good and fruit juices are pretty high carbs.
Mixed frozen berries are a good option for adding to Full fat Greek yoghurt or adding to sugar free jelly and having with cream.
I would just stick with the milk you prefer as there is not a huge difference in carbs in the scheme of things (7g per 150ml), but some people have cream in their coffee instead of milk as it is pretty well zero carb
I recommend the book Carbs and Cals for finding the carb value of a whole range of foods. There is an app but it is now a subscription service but the book can be bought on Amazon for about £10.

 

[Drummer]

You can only tell if you can cope with them if you test after eating.
I do not use milk at all, a measured amount of cream in my coffee or on a dessert, simply to keep the carbs as low as possible, due to my limit of 40 gm a day. Few need to go as low as that to get normal blood glucose results.

 

[Betty13]

I would not have evaporated milk. I have Greek yoghurt. A medium sized apple is about 25g carbs. Carbs and Cals book is brill and there an app for your phone, however I believe it is subscription based now. I would have either semi or full fat milk, depending on any health issues. Low fat foods are pointless. I also have the 10 cal jellies they are great. I also eat lower carb bread. Slices under 17g Carbs per slice. It is a mine field when you are trying to navigate diabetes and weigh loss. Avoid the tropical foods. If you can bear it try more veggies. I am on a calorie controlled diet via the dietician, you'd be surprised at what I can and shouldn't eat. I was always a chicken fan.. not now I fill my plate with veg and have a small portion of chicken. Grill everything you can and steam veg.. veg stock. I got some really valuable recipe books the fast 800 recipe book by Dr. Claire Bailey it has red edges.. I wouldn't recommend the fast 800 by yourself but the recipes are brill for healthy alternatives.

 

[Betty13]

Hi everyone, still getting to grips with my type 2, my question is are Apples, Pears & Oranges ok regards the sugars contained within them? I understand about tropical fruits being not so good so trying to find fruits that are suitable, also I might add I am trying to lose some weight as well as dealing with the Diabetes.
Secondly what about tin fruit in Juice with evaporated milk?
Lastly fully skimmed redtop milk Vs Blue top full fat milk, I keep reading your better off with the fat than you are with the carbs in the redtop?

Thankyou to those that can maybe provide some useful information.

 

[Betty13]

From what I understand fat and protein take longer to absorb so you feel hungry less. Instant Carbs in sugars etc generally absorb straight away via the inside of your cheeks straight away so you feel more hungry. I drink lots and lots of water. Decaf tea and coffee sugar free cola and if anyone said I would have a brew with a little sweetener in them 15 weeks ago I would never have believed them.

 

[Robin]

If you're controlling Carbs you'll get a shock if you eat an apple ... Medium apple, 50 grams of Carbs. That's over a third of my daily allowance.
If you get onto something like MyFitnessPal, they have an excellent database plus a scanner for reading barcodes.

I think that’s more than double, most carb counting sites give a medium apple as around 20 carbs, (especially the US ones, where you have to deduct the fibre, and the US idea of a medium apple is bigger than ours!). My current Braeburns give 11.5g carbs per 100g of apple.

 

[Stuvart]

As a t2 I avoid apples/oranges and pears, for me they cause a long(3-4 hrs) lasting spike in my bg tests, weirdly I can have a small banana or half dozen or so green grapes without them causing much of a rise.
Sadly as with most foods its going to come down to what YOU can tolerate, same goes for milk types I cant really handle skimmed milk and can only deal with a small amount of full fat but yoghurt is not a problem. Its all rather a pain in the proverbial, my best advice is to try and then test to see whats good for yourself.

 

[helli]

If you're controlling Carbs you'll get a shock if you eat an apple ... Medium apple, 50 grams of Carbs

There are only 11.6g carbs per 100g so 50g of carbs from one apple would be a 431g apple.

I weigh and carb count fruit. I had three small apples (coxs orange pippin) for breakfast, yesterday. Between them (not each), I calculated and dosed for 25g carbs. My blood sugar levels were fine.

Please be aware that such inaccuracies could be fatal for someone who takes insulin.

 

[Drummer]

Keep in mind that much of the standard advice is wrong for many people, and most type two diabetics.
I eat twice a day and my meals are not large - but I don't need to count calories, just carbs. The amount of protein and fat I eat seems to keep me in good fettle, even at 70 years of age. Sometimes I don't feel hungry so I just have the meat or fish, or some scrambled egg with cheese.

 

[Nikki53]

I think that’s more than double, most carb counting sites give a medium apple as around 20 carbs, (especially the US ones, where you have to deduct the fibre, and the US idea of a medium apple is bigger than ours!). My current Braeburns give 11.5g carbs per 100g of apple.

Probably depends on what they class as 'medium'.

 

[Nikki53]

I think that’s more than double, most carb counting sites give a medium apple as around 20 carbs, (especially the US ones, where you have to deduct the fibre, and the US idea of a medium apple is bigger than ours!). My current Braeburns give 11.5g carbs per 100g of apple.

Okay. My error. I'll be more careful about what I post.
I was just repeating what MyFitnessPal said.

 

[Nikki53]

There are only 11.6g carbs per 100g so 50g of carbs from one apple would be a 431g apple.

I weigh and carb count fruit. I had three small apples (coxs orange pippin) for breakfast, yesterday. Between them (not each), I calculated and dosed for 25g carbs. My blood sugar levels were fine.

Please be aware that such inaccuracies could be fatal for someone who takes insulin.

I'm sorry.
I've deleted my post.
I was simply repeating what MyFitnessPal says. And trying to be helpful.
I'll avoid posting anything like that again.

 

[rebrascora]

Evaporated milk really spikes my levels. I used to keep it as a standby for when I ran out of fresh cream for my coffee but gave up on that idea. Real cream is a better choice but tinned fruit in fruit juice is probably not a good idea with or without the evap. as they are mostly tropical fruits and the fruit juice will be very high in sugar too. Far better to buy a bag of frozen summer berries and have a few of those with some double cream or thick Greek yoghurt for a dessert... or have cheese after a meal.

 

[Docb]

Hi @Stupot. My experience is that it is best to be a bit wary of anything that that purports to say anything prescriptive about fruit. In the early days, when I was experimenting I found that apples gave me a big spike so wrote them off as far as my diet was concerned. When autumn came I tried an apple straight off the tree and no problem. Came to the conclusion that the glucose raising effect of apples depended on the variety, the ripeness, time in store and probably a bunch of other things.

So if you are not testing be a bit wary with fruit. If you are testing then experiment and find out what suits. Out of interest I find that the small easy peel oranges sold in nets at Aldi are okay for me.