FODMAP diet

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SB2015

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Has anyone tried this?

I have been advised to use this. Looking at the things to eliminate initially they are many of the things that I have settled on to reduce spikes in my glucose levels. I have a feeling that I am going to be doing a lot more recording and thinking about my diabetes over the next few months. I am hoping that the closed loop is going to be on my side with this.
 
I tried the FODMAP diet for 2 or 3 weeks @SB2015 after a stomach virus had caused major ongoing issues for months. Probably that wasn’t long enough to judge it fairly, but for me I found that some of the forbidden foods were things I could eat ok. I found it quite restrictive (I eat largely vegan and veggie foods). What I did find helped was to cut out most dairy products (I had an occasional sliver of cheese) and eat no tinned tomatoes and raw tomatoes in moderation (I found they were a real culprit). Also, I struggled eating any fruit for months so cut it all out, relying on veg for my nutrients. That settled my digestion a lot. But what really helped me were specific probiotics that I’d seen recommended for IBS. Now I can eat fruit but I still avoid dairy products as much as possible.

Sorry that isn’t more helpful. I’d give it a try and keep copious notes about what foods seem to work/not work.
 
Inka said:
I tried the FODMAP diet for 2 or 3 weeks @SB2015 after a stomach virus had caused major ongoing issues for months. Probably that wasn’t long enough to judge it fairly, but for me I found that some of the forbidden foods were things I could eat ok. I found it quite restrictive (I eat largely vegan and veggie foods). What I did find helped was to cut out most dairy products (I had an occasional sliver of cheese) and eat no tinned tomatoes and raw tomatoes in moderation (I found they were a real culprit). Also, I struggled eating any fruit for months so cut it all out, relying on veg for my nutrients. That settled my digestion a lot. But what really helped me were specific probiotics that I’d seen recommended for IBS. Now I can eat fruit but I still avoid dairy products as much as possible.

Sorry that isn’t more helpful. I’d give it a try and keep copious notes about what foods seem to work/not work.
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Thanks Inka. Just started down the process of loads of tests at present but doing my research.
I think the simplest would be to go dairy free and gluten free if I can. I am very much hoping that tomatoes come back on my list of goodies to eat, although I already avoid any tinned ones with anything other than tomatoes in. I can’t see the logic/pattern in the forbidden foods. When I was advised to try this, we had already prepared a delicious Cauliflower cheese for that evening!
I am going to wait until the outcome of scans I am having next week, before starting this, so just reading up about it.
 
Inka said:
But what really helped me were specific probiotics
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They mentioned probiotics and prebiotics too. All new to me and no idea on the difference between them (and feel like I ought to know!!!). More to find out (and feeling like I have enough to deal with already - a bit on a whinge)
 
If you’re interested, these are the ones I used @SB2015 :


They’re not cheap but by that stage I felt pretty desperate and it was clear my whole digestion was messed up. I read the reviews and a number of people said they had helped, so I thought it was worth a try. I was nervous in case they made things worse as my digestion was extremely sensitive by this stage, so I started with one capsule a day before lunch for a week or two, then upped that to two a day - one before breakfast, one before evening meal. I found that helped a lot so (due to price) I stuck at that dose, taking it for weeks. Once my stomach had returned to pretty much normal, I then reduced them to 2 a day, 1 a day, 2 a day, etc, because I was so scared about the symptoms coming back. After a few weeks, I reduced that to 1 every day.

Now I only take them if I have an illness or feel my digestion is getting a bit funny. I do still avoid the dairy and tomatoes, as mentioned above.
 
It is something that I've had the thought of doing s few times. I can't offer advise sorry as I didn't stick to it.
 
rayray119 said:
It is something that I've had the thought of doing s few times. I can't offer advise sorry as I didn't stick to it.
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Exact that when I was looking into it I did download the Monash app.
 
Hope you are able to find a workable menu that helps settle your tum @SB2015

Let us know how things go 🙂
 
Hi I am type 2 with multiple gut conditions, I was told only to do with a trained dietitian due to having diabetes, have you got one yet? You can be referred on the NHS for one, took a few weeks but was much easier when my dietitian was helping me.
I am vegetarian and my triggers were onions, garlic and baked beans and have to be careful with rye based products but am ok with small amounts of rye based sourdough. Happy to chat if I can help.
 
@SB2015 I have posted about fermented foods and good gut diets to boost the microbiome with healthy good bacteria, which have to say went down like lead balloon here, so here's few useful links to introduce healthy food into your diet with all the prebiotic probiotic live cultures from unpasteurised fermented foods, you can even make many yourself at home with DIY process and there's many books and guides out there as often it feels like sharing info is somehow "sales people on commission hawking their wares" but nobody owns any patents or copyrights for fermented foods or FODMAP diets...

www.theguardian.com

Cheese, please! Eight everyday foods that are great for gut health – and aren’t kimchi, kombucha, ’kraut or kefir

There’s more to looking after your internal microbiome than stuffing down the four Ks. Here are some cheap, readily available alternatives
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

https://www.theguthealthdoctor.com/ Free Guide and blog and think there are published books you could look up in book stores and libraries too

My personal favourite low sugar live unpasteurised Kombucha (less than 0.5g due to fermentation process breaking down sugar and Stevia sweeteners), perfect chilled with ice and slices of citrus fruit and perfect way to give up and wean yourself off high sugar fizzy pop soda drinks with their own aisles in supermarkets, Lo Bros Fruit Crush from Soulfresh (I have tried many, some are quite sour and vinegary and not tasty!), very refreshing vegan and doing your insides big favour too!
lobros.co

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Bring a splash of sunshine to even the dullest of days. The colourful mix of mango, orange, apple, passionfruit, and raspberry deliver a super tropical, fruity taste. Buy Now + Buy Online Buy Online Buy Online Ingredients + Ingredients: Kombucha (Filtered Water, Kombucha Culture, Black Tea...
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Good Luck accessing dietician, nutrionist, qualified doctor, as I have experimental approach to getting fitter and healthier focused on wholefoods, fermented foods, vegan plant-based diet, exercise classes, walking group, cutting out all heavily refined/processed/high sugar/high carb supermarket junk foods and probiotic supplements, and failing that, waiting for place on NHS Remission Weight Loss Soups & Shakes Programme, but it's very inflexible if you have holidays or away from home for 12 weeks course with food parcels, but I will see how I cope with it...😉
 
I eat locally made kimchi and, when I can’t find it, this brand of Raw Kimchi:

Vadasz Pickles & Ferments

Welcome to the Vadasz Pickles & Ferments website. Our super condiments are pickled for crunchy goodness and live cultured for tasty gutness.
vadaszdeli.co.uk vadaszdeli.co.uk

However @SB2015 when I had my post-virus problems, I couldn’t tolerate it well to start with, so start off with tiny portions. Avoid kefir. I used to have it but it most definitely was a bad thing when I was having my gut problems - so much so, that’s haven’t touched it since.

I think the same goes for all foods - tiny portions to start with and caution. This includes even healthy foods like veg.
 
Some interesting info and links. Thank you all.

I have now done quite a bit of reading, and beginning to my head round a plan. I am working with a specialist nurse, and can email a dietician so feel that I have support around me, along with the wealth of knowledge on here - thank you.
This first phase is more tests, lots of reading and an accurate food diary alongside symptoms etc.
Then trying Lactose free for a fortnight and review, then gluten free for a fortnight a review.

I have found when I looked at the red list for FODMAP diet it included so many of the things I have included in my diet to help manage spikes in glucose levels - slight panic. But now I realise that the FODMAP diet is a means of finding out what works for me, ‘rather than a list of banned substances’ I feel that I am taking a more scientific approach to come up with any necessary adaptations. I found Marianne Williams website www.wisediet.co.uk very helpful. This starts with ‘FODMAP light’ and was so well explained. She did the training for the teams at our local hospital. We spent time yesterday looking around local health food places and supermarkets to see what was available.

Thais feels like the early days of Type 1 where it all seemed incredibly complicated and now is just part of normal life.
 
SB2015 said:
But now I realise that the FODMAP diet is a means of finding out what works for me, ‘rather than a list of banned substances’ I feel that I am taking a more scientific approach to come up with any necessary adaptations.
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That sounds like a very positive approach Sue 🙂
 
Thankfully, I do not experience IBS but I have a lot of sympathy for those who do and the lack of understanding from some medical professionals. In the past my monthly period pains were suggested to be IBS so I have a small amount of experience.

I hope @SB2015 FODMAP helps you understand your IBS and identifies some of the root cause I hope it is not an arithmetic (BODMAS*) relationship to different foods.

*Alas my confused brain continues to read this thread title as "BODMAS diet".
 
helli said:
Thankfully, I do not experience IBS but I have a lot of sympathy for those who do and the lack of understanding from some medical professionals. In the past my monthly period pains were suggested to be IBS so I have a small amount of experience.

I hope @SB2015 FODMAP helps you understand your IBS and identifies some of the root cause I hope it is not an arithmetic (BODMAS*) relationship to different foods.

*Alas my confused brain continues to read this thread title as "BODMAS diet".
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Would it help to know that BODMAS became BIDMAS, probably well after your time at school, it avoids the ODMA? (Indices is more useful than 'of'.)
 
silentsquirrel said:
Would it help to know that BODMAS became BIDMAS, probably well after your time at school, it avoids the ODMA? (Indices is more useful than 'of'.)
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Neither BODMAS nor BIDMAS nor BEDMAS (as the USA use where the E stands for Exponential) were taught at my school. Or rather the concept was hammered into my head without using an acronym.
I am not sure whether that was due to my age or my school or my teachers.
I learnt BODMAS as an adult from colleagues who were amazed I had no idea what they were talking about, especially as I had a degree in Engineering.
 
I have done the FODMAP diet for IBS and so has my son. Both of us were successful in identifying foods that were triggers. My son has managed to introduce some foods that previously triggered his IBS but we both now can't eat onions, garlic and are lactose and wheat intolerant ( such fun lol ) My son isn't Diabetic thank goodness. Seeds and nuts are also a no go. Our IBS is so much better now.
 
helli said:
Neither BODMAS nor BIDMAS nor BEDMAS (as the USA use where the E stands for Exponential) were taught at my school.
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Well, I don’t know much about that… but as my Dad used to say,

“By your Pre, Tre*, and Pol, and Pen, shall you know your Cornish men”

😛 :rofl: :D

* Thanks @helli - duly corrected.
 
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everydayupsanddowns said:
By your Pre, and Pol, and Pen, shall you know your Cornish men
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Not being a Cornwallian, I had to Google that one. I don't think it would be a great diet or help with your maths homework but useful nonetheless ... I assume. 🙄

Wiki suggests it dates back to 1602 when it was "By your Tre and Pol and Pen, ..."
 
helli said:
Thankfully, I do not experience IBS but I have a lot of sympathy for those who do and the lack of understanding from some medical professionals. In the past my monthly period pains were suggested to be IBS so I have a small amount of experience.

I hope @SB2015 FODMAP helps you understand your IBS and identifies some of the root cause I hope it is not an arithmetic (BODMAS*) relationship to different foods.

*Alas my confused brain continues to read this thread title as "BODMAS diet".
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As another Mathematician I also read it as BODMAS. If only the diet was as straight forward as the maths!
 
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