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Feeling defeated.

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You're going to have to, Pat, unless you wish to be driven to distraction very soon indeed. You have to plod at this cos miracles - and more even control - take a little longer ......

Never wanted to be a plodder with anything myself frankly either - so grit your teeth, try to stop gnashing and wailing ALL the time* - and PLOD! Perfection is NOT possible unless you want to spend 100% of your waking life trying to achieve it and even then if your body decides to catch a cold, the weather changes, or whatever - you're stuffed. So settle for 'pretty OK to good'.

We hear you, friend - and empathise.
good advice once again, thank you.
You're going to have to, Pat, unless you wish to be driven to distraction very soon indeed. You have to plod at this cos miracles - and more even control - take a little longer ......

Never wanted to be a plodder with anything myself frankly either - so grit your teeth, try to stop gnashing and wailing ALL the time* - and PLOD! Perfection is NOT possible unless you want to spend 100% of your waking life trying to achieve it and even then if your body decides to catch a cold, the weather changes, or whatever - you're stuffed. So settle for 'pretty OK to good'.

We hear you, friend - and empathise.
Thanks again for the wise words. Plod on I shall.
 
Oh I forgot to add what I was going to say underneath, so here it is.

*those that live with us may not immediately appreciate that we really ARE trying not to moan all the while though so that's another cross we have to bear in this life! 😉
 
As others have said the heat could be playing tricks with you, I used to be based in the Middle East and as you can imagine 45 degrees for 6 months a year can put a lot of strain on your BG, I carb counted and bolus dosed based on what I was eating and then 2 hours after eating I started testing again and did small corrections as needed, I often found my BG creeping up again so a unit or two added here and there helped keep things in line. We’re all different but it could help you if it is the heat affecting you, remember lots more testing and small corrections helped.
Also don’t beat yourself up over going high too much, the heat will pass I a few days as usual and you might come back to normal, best of luck with it
 
As others have said the heat could be playing tricks with you, I used to be based in the Middle East and as you can imagine 45 degrees for 6 months a year can put a lot of strain on your BG, I carb counted and bolus dosed based on what I was eating and then 2 hours after eating I started testing again and did small corrections as needed, I often found my BG creeping up again so a unit or two added here and there helped keep things in line. We’re all different but it could help you if it is the heat affecting you, remember lots more testing and small corrections helped.
Also don’t beat yourself up over going high too much, the heat will pass I a few days as usual and you might come back to normal, best of luck with it
Thanks for your advice much appreciated.
 
Sorry to hear the Diabetes Fairy has been up to her tricks with you recently @Type1Pat

You are right it IS so frustrating and demoralising when you do everything you are supposed to, and BG chaos follows.

Hope you find an adjustment to your doses that gets things ‘plodding‘ again for you 🙂
 
Bit of a perfectionist so when things don't go right it really annoys me .
Take care with that perfectionism - diabetes burn out it is a real thing. I think it is very important for our mental health to keep a balance in life and not aim for the impossible but accept imperfections sometimes ... especially with diabetes.

If you are still using Libre, you could set yourself a target of something like 70% in target each month.

As @Freddie1966 says "Tomorrow is another day" so tomorrow will even out the averages and time in target.

Take care ... of all of you, not just the diabetes part.
 
Take care with that perfectionism - diabetes burn out it is a real thing. I think it is very important for our mental health to keep a balance in life and not aim for the impossible but accept imperfections sometimes ... especially with diabetes.

If you are still using Libre, you could set yourself a target of something like 70% in target each month.

As @Freddie1966 says "Tomorrow is another day" so tomorrow will even out the averages and time in target.

Take care ... of all of you, not just the diabetes part.
Take care with that perfectionism - diabetes burn out it is a real thing. I think it is very important for our mental health to keep a balance in life and not aim for the impossible but accept imperfections sometimes ... especially with diabetes.

If you are still using Libre, you could set yourself a target of something like 70% in target each month.

As @Freddie1966 says "Tomorrow is another day" so tomorrow will even out the averages and time in target.

Take care ... of all of you, not just the diabetes part.
Currently waiting for the libre to be put into my repeat prescriptions. The trainer said there would be a short delay of the 1st sensor running out to recieving them on prescription. Wasn't too sure at first with the libre but now it's back to finger pricks for a while I certainly do miss the convenience and information you get from the libre.
 
Hi @Type1Pat, just as I spoke about getting your basal correct yesterday and I was basking in the beauty of months of flatlines overnight, for no obvious reason my levels started rising at 3am and have continued right up until now. I had a long sleep in today (I know, I know - 1pm and I don't even care) and bolussed for my breakfast well over an hour ago and my levels haven't started to drop yet (in fact they are still rising) so I'm not able to eat yet. My food is sitting in a bowl in the kitchen gently singing to me in a "come-hither" voice. A sad, tearful ballad full of longing for a better past where we could be together in harmony. I've just heard the line "I'll go off if you don't eat me soon and then you'll have wasted food" floating in through two closed doors. I shouted back "Oh for the love of god, you're a bowl of bran flakes. The sun will burn out before you go mouldy" but still the lament continues. I think I may be hallucinating a little. 🙂

This sort of c**p happens to everyone. Absolutely everyone. There's no point trying to be perfect. May as well shout at the clouds. You'll just ruin your day.

ETA. My wife has just come in and asked me who I am shouting at. :D
 
For me if my levels are persistently high, it is always because I need a basal increase. If you have tried that and your Lantus is dropping you low overnight then you could try taking your Lantus in the morning instead and see if you can improve control in that way so that the peak of the Lantus is happening during the day when you need more. Or you could try a change of basal insulin to split dose Levemir if the problem persists and then you could increase your daytime dose separate of your night time. It may be that this going high through the day is an indication that your honeymoon period is coming to an end, or it could be the weather but with Levemir you would be able to adjust it up and down as often as you needed to without affecting the evening dose and risking hypos. Alternatively, you could increase the Lantus dose and have a slow release snack at bedtime (oat cakes and cheese perhaps) to push your BG a bit higher when you go to bed to stop you dropping below the red line during the night.

When I get these spells when I get stuck in the 9-12 range I often end up doing what is commonly referred to as a "Rage bolus" when I get sick of doing a unit or 2 correction here and there with little effect so I stick 3 or 4 units in and then promptly hypo before returning to double figures! I am slowly learning that increasing my basal by just 1 or 2 units means I don't need 4 - 6 extra units of Quick Acting insulin in the form of corrections through the day. I find it just amazing how the whole world suddenly makes sense when I get my basal doses right. Unfortunately due to my lack of routine I have to adjust my basal every 2-3 days sometimes, but with Levemir being so flexible I can do that and I am becoming much more experienced and confident in making those adjustments.

We all know how frustrating it is when levels don't behave. Hang in there! You will either find something that works or it will come right itself.
 
When I get these spells when I get stuck in the 9-12 range I often end up doing what is commonly referred to as a "Rage bolus"
I came perilously close to that just now after waiting well ovr 2 hours for my bolus to kick in.
I decided to just "rage eat" instead.
 
I came perilously close to that just now after waiting well ovr 2 hours for my bolus to kick in.
I decided to just "rage eat" instead.
I will be honest and say that I actually find it a bit of a relief to hypo after a "Rage Bolus" even if my levels do head straight back up again afterwards. If I have been stuck too high for days, just the feeling/knowledge that if I do inject too much insulin, it will bring me down, is kind of reassuring.... ie it does still work!!
I know how frustrating that waiting is. I used to have to wait over an hour every morning when I was using NovoRapid but I am down to 45mins with Fiasp and have a routine of what I can fit in during that time which mostly works, rather than getting distracted and then forgetting and going hypo.
 
I will be honest and say that I actually find it a bit of a relief to hypo after a "Rage Bolus" even if my levels do head straight back up again afterwards. If I have been stuck too high for days, just the feeling/knowledge that if I do inject too much insulin, it will bring me down, is kind of reassuring.... ie it does still work!!
I know how frustrating that waiting is. I used to have to wait over an hour every morning when I was using NovoRapid but I am down to 45mins with Fiasp and have a routine of what I can fit in during that time which mostly works, rather than getting distracted and then forgetting and going hypo.

It seems to have sorted itself now but I won't be waiting that long again in future. I wasn't starving hungry, it's more the inconvenience. The annoying thing is that I'm going to spike anyway. That's the downside of having cereal I suppose.
 
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