Does Matt Hancock tell lies?

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Thankfully, I didn't vote for the tories in the last election, or labour. Not that it matters as I live in tory stronghold and my vote is worthless.
 
BlueArmy said:
Thankfully, I didn't vote for the tories in the last election, or labour. Not that it matters as I live in tory stronghold and my vote is worthless.
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Yeah, me too :( The voting system needs changing, but of course the Tories will never do that as long as they can win a huge majority on a minority of votes :(
 
I’ve already commented on this story on the thread @Amity Island has started. Not really relevant to whether he is a liar or not.

It’s not looking good for Johnson- if he sacks Hancock for having an affair, he’s a hypocrite, if he sacks him for having an affair with a lobbyist, he’s a hypocrite. And it brings to the fore how he allowed Hancock to actually employ a lobbyist as an aide. Hypocrite central.
 
As I’ve said, the affair and breaking of his own Covid rules is evident, and he should resign as Ferguson did. You can’t apologise for hypocrisy, Dominic Cummings knew that and never did. Hypocrisy is the least of the accusations against him.

So at the risk of repeating myself, he should be questioned is how an old university “friend” and self described lobbyist can be appointed to be an aide, and who is now a non-executive board member at the Department of Health. OK, she’s only paid £15,000 for that position, but that’s more than job seekers allowance is to live on, and she’s a millionaire. Christine Hamilton made this point on Jeremy Vine’s show on Radio 2 this lunchtime. What I thought significant was all the callers after her went on about hypocrisy, as did Jeremy Vine who would describe himself as a journalist.
 
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During the lockdowns the 'one law for the rich' situation has become ridiculous, with the police harassing and threatening mothers trying to buy milk at a self service kiosk on their way back from school (as reported in the Bournemouth Echo) and NHS workers protesting about their conditions being fined huge sums (for them) for breaking the rules whilst politicians and their cronies feel free to ignore them.
This area has a lot of care homes for the elderly and infirm and the staff were going home on busses white faced and red eyed, with black sacks of PPE to wash so it could be reused.
We were inundated with visitors on several occasions and someone sent out squads to lock all the public toilets and make sure all the cafes and pubs were shut - so there was fouling everywhere and some very unhappy people. Amongst them the residents of Sandbanks, where there are some of the most expensive houses in the UK, so there might be repercussions. One can but hope.
 
mikeyB said:
OK, she’s only paid £15,000 for that position, but that’s more than job seekers allowance is to live on, and she’s a millionaire.
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If I got £15k for 20 hours work I’d be happy. I think it was in that ballpark - hourly rate of £1000
 
Drummer said:
During the lockdowns the 'one law for the rich' situation has become ridiculous, with the police harassing and threatening mothers trying to buy milk at a self service kiosk on their way back from school (as reported in the Bournemouth Echo) and NHS workers protesting about their conditions being fined huge sums (for them) for breaking the rules whilst politicians and their cronies feel free to ignore them.
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yeah its madness. My wife was threatened by a over zealous PCSO with a fine for playing football in the local park with my 2 kids, in a bubble away from anyone. Apparently she was allowed to walk with them but no ball games allowed.
 
anyway, hancock is on his way no doubt, Maybe the new health secretary will see fit to provide all T1’s with continuous BG monitors as per May’s aspiration a few years back
 
BlueArmy said:
think his wife would disagree
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Yes there’s the respective spouses whose main anger won’t be about breaches of social distancing! Somehow I imagine Cummings being the secret photographer…he’s been on a covert mission since his days were numbered.

Who’d have imagined Hancock, it’s always the quiet ones you need to watch out for :D
 
Amigo said:
Who’d have imagined Hancock, it’s always the quiet ones you need to watch out for :D
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It's not his fault if women can't keep their hands off him.

Such a stud.
 
Amigo said:
Yes there’s the respective spouses whose main anger won’t be about breaches of social distancing! Somehow I imagine Cummings being the secret photographer…he’s been on a covert mission since his days were numbered.

Who’d have imagined Hancock, it’s always the quiet ones you need to watch out for :D
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Yeah I said that to my wife.

Lesson No.1 - don't mess with Cummings.
Lesson No. 2 - don't mess with your aide, if you've messed with Cummings.
 
Northerner said:
Well, there was a man with a lifelong record of integrity and honesty, who fought passionately on all these issues. Sadly, he was terminally undermined by a vicious campaign against him from all sections of the media, and his own parliamentary party. Take away that overwhelming message and maybe he would have won in 2017 due to the undoubted popularity of his policy platform which sought to turn the tables on the established top-down order and support ordinary people, whatever their situation. Life would now be very different, but if you ask people they will often say I wouldn't vote for that Corbyn, without having a clue why or how they have been duped into feeling that way :(
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After a lifetime of voting Labour, when Corbyn started leading the party I actually joined and became a fully paid up member. I helped on local campaigns and became an active member. Since he has gone I'm still a member but I no longer have the enthusiasm to be active in the local community. It was his integrity and honesty that fired me up and now there doesn't seem to be any point. I realise my apathy is my own issue, but every party needs a leader who inspires. Admittedly I voted for Kier but my heart wasn't in it.
 
Vonny said:
After a lifetime of voting Labour, when Corbyn started leading the party I actually joined and became a fully paid up member. I helped on local campaigns and became an active member. Since he has gone I'm still a member but I no longer have the enthusiasm to be active in the local community. It was his integrity and honesty that fired me up and now there doesn't seem to be any point. I realise my apathy is my own issue, but every party needs a leader who inspires. Admittedly I voted for Kier but my heart wasn't in it.
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I think what galls me the most is the way that anything to do with the left is deliberately being expunged from the party, as though that was what was wrong with it, I find that personally insulting as do thousands of others who have now left the party. Over a year on from Starmer's election and I am still waiting to hear what the party now stands for, and why it feels it needs to kick its own members and activists in the teeth at every opportunity :( Remember back to that 2016 'coup' where they offered precisely nothing as an alternative to the leader they wanted to get rid of - Owen Smith and Angela Eagle for goodness sake! 😱 🙄

Sorry, off topic, now let's get back to Hancock's lies, which now include his wife and kids, apparently :(
 
and someone else’s husband and their kids. What a mess, not quite as much of a mess as his handling of PPE mind you,
 
All this does make me wonder why this ageing film has taken so long to hit the notice of the press. And who is the whistleblower? And now, apparently, we have a photo of the naughty pair dining in a restaurant not long after the kiss below the CCTV camera.

I have a suspicion that the families involved were well aware as to what was about to happen, the press usually give warning. So Hancock must have been distracted for a longer period.

But as Boris thinks the matter is closed and has accepted the apology, I guess that’s the end of it. He didn’t even sack Patel after she was judged to have broken the ministerial code by bullying her staff. I doubt that the press consider the matter closed, though. They sniff a sacrificial lamb.
 
Yes, @mikeyB, like you I wonder what the full story might be. Things are never quite as simple as the press would like to make out.

I am curious about why there will be no attempt to find who put the camera there. The idea that somebody could record the activities in a ministers private office must raise a few eyebrows. Did somebody put a micro camera there? Has somebody hacked into a government system? Mmmmm.....where are the conspiracy theorists.
 
Docb said:
Yes, @mikeyB, like you I wonder what the full story might be. Things are never quite as simple as the press would like to make out.

I am curious about why there will be no attempt to find who put the camera there. The idea that somebody could record the activities in a ministers private office must raise a few eyebrows. Did somebody put a micro camera there? Has somebody hacked into a government system? Mmmmm.....where are the conspiracy theorists.
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The impression I have got from the various news reports is that it was a security camera - perhaps it's needed in case there is a burglary or something? Or perhaps someone breaking Covid rules? 😱 😉 Actually, when you think about it, and having seen the pictures, it's pretty clear that these shenanigans have been going on for some time, wquite possibly throughout the pandemic - it most certainly wasn't a one-off, but you get the impression that that is how they are trying to present it :( There is no honour in this government, probably (definitely) because of the PM's own lack of morals :(
 
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