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Diabetes even though doctor says no?

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I apologise if my post came across as rude, Aqualibra. as Stephknit says, I was trying to point out the dangers out there which can lead people astray. These sites only exist to take advantage of folk who feel lost in the “real” medical world, and it’s sometimes hard to discern what is true - or in this case, medically possible.

I agree with Amigo about doctors not updating their knowledge base with regard to possible treatments, and for sure agree about fibromyalgia and CFS. They are real conditions, mind. But it has taken decades for some doctors to acknowledge that.
 
Thanks for your apology, Mike. I am well aware there are some "snake oil salesmen" out there, however I - like Amigo and many others - have quite a lot of experience with doctors getting it wrong, and personal research coming up with the solution.

CFS and fibromyalgia would also have been dismissed in the past as fictional conditions invented by conmen to peddle snake oil. Indeed, IBS was also considered "all in the mind" until very recently.

So it is important to keep an open mind on these things. Just because doctors can't test for something, doesn't mean it isn't real. They can't test for IBS either, and only use it as a 'default diagnosis', when everything else has been ruled out. When the bowel is examined with IBS patients, it looks normal and healthy. But there is still a very significant medical issue there.
 
Aqualibra said:
Indeed, IBS was also considered "all in the mind" until very recently.
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IBS has been recognised for well over 30 years by now, if that's the definition of 'very recently' I suppose!

My mother was diagnosed with it in the 1970s, in her 60s, by which time of course it had been all over the newspapers for years and the NHS had all sorts of printed information leaflets for patients - in which case I fully expect the medical establishment had understood in certain circles that it existed, for ages cos NHS leaflets are by no means instant LOL

OTOH the medical profession have known about limiting carbs for diabetics since pre 1900, before the discovery of insulin - and it still hasn't got through to an awful lot of them so if anyone gets anything odd, it's hardly surprising (though frustrating for any of them) when anyone including the medical profession can't provide an answer.
 
Oh yes, it's been recognised, but it was still considered "all in the mind" when I got diagnosed (2002), e.g. I was told it was a manifestation of depression/anxiety and that I should see a psychologist. I did, which was quite interesting, but made no difference whatsoever to my digestion. It's only more recently that some (though by no means all) doctors accept it is a legitimate physical problem which is not caused by state of mind (of course stress can make it worse, but that goes for many conditions). Then I was told by another doctor to eat more wheat bran, which made it worse, as is the case for many IBS patients.

It is very true about the reluctance of many medical professionals to acknowledge a low-carb diet can help diabetes. I have a friend who is diabetic and eats carbs at every meal because of "doctor's orders". So I am, to say the least, sceptical of doctors, as they frequently seem to get things wrong and make things worse.
 
Had your friend been diagnosed when I was they'd have been told to limit carbs, no two ways about it. New discoveries aren't always all they're cracked up to be - talk about throwing the babby out with the bathwater when 'new' practices are adopted!
 
Believe it or not my G.P.s advice was to cut out cakes, biscuits and sweets, no mention of bread or other carbohydrates and go onto the internet if I wanted to know anything else!.
The practice had no diabetes nurse either which I why I spend so much time on here asking questions until I can get my head round it all.
 
JMyrtle said:
Believe it or not my G.P.s advice was to cut out cakes, biscuits and sweets, no mention of bread or other carbohydrates and go onto the internet if I wanted to know anything else!.
The practice had no diabetes nurse either which I why I spend so much time on here asking questions until I can get my head round it all.
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Oh I believe that. Still happens all too often unfortunately.:(
 
@Aqualibra - When you eat carbs, are your symptoms the same, irrespective of the sorts of carbs you have on any given occasion? If not, are they better or worse if you have grains, like bread or pasta.

When you say you feel rough; how soon after eating carbs does that happen? I'm wondering if you have a food intolerance of some sort.
 
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