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I did a T2ONIC, type 2 on insulin course here in Nottingham. Is there anything like that in your area? It was aimed at all type 2s on insulin including with other meds or not.
 
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The reason they're given different names is because they have completely different causes. One is an autoimmune condition (T1) and one is caused by insulin resistance (T2). When universities and research departments apply for research grants they wouldn't just say they're researching 'diabetes' they specify which type and what they're looking at. If they need volunteers (I've done a few over the years) for their research again it would be fairly critical they get the right people of the right type in regard to what they're looking at.
 
I've got a place on a type 2 carb counting insulin group session in August but there was no way they would allow me anywhere near a Dafne course. It says I have to take my insulin pens, blood testing meters and treatment for hypos with me. Just hoping it's better than the Desmond course I attended pre insulin which was a complete waste of time esp mine!!
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Well it should be, Jo.

I mean - I don't make the rules, I was simply stating the case. Bearing in mind how many people already have to wait for ages (years sometimes) to get a place on such a course - if they also opened them to T2s - well it would be just impossible for the DSNs to handle and they would have no time whatever to do their normal jobs - so every man jack of us would lose out with no advice available from anyone until the next consultant one in 12 month's time.

I dunno what's happening at my clinic now, with one of the two DSNs having been off sick for almost 12 months and the other one trying to do the work of two people - they can hardly replace someone who's off sick, and DSN isn't really a job you can cover with an agency nurse.
 
Good luck with the course. I have found that If I go to my GP he will trash whatever course I want to do just for the sake of trashing it. My consultant on the other hand will say this is a good course go for it and give me his blessing or say this is not a good course because and give me at least one good reason why he thinks it is a bad course but will still give me a letter to do it if I am determined to do it.
 
Matt Cycle said:
The reason they're given different names is because they have completely different causes. One is an autoimmune condition (T1) and one is caused by insulin resistance (T2). When universities and research departments apply for research grants they wouldn't just say they're researching 'diabetes' they specify which type and what they're looking at. If they need volunteers (I've done a few over the years) for their research again it would be fairly critical they get the right people of the right type in regard to what they're looking at.
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Of course that is true, but if a T2 ends up just taking insulin to control their condition, surely they should have access to all the courses and resources available to Type 1s. Incidentally, Type 2 is a lot more than just insulin resistance, and Type 1 is not always autoimmune.
 
One of our members , earlier in the year had been talking to some researchers , they were saying that there are thinking there many more types of Diabetes!
 
Hey Mike - just thinking ... (dangerous) ...... we are now getting LADA being recognised as what it is.

I wonder - will the 'T1' courses be available to them, when the time comes (ie only on insulin cos the T2 meds have completely stopped, and the silly bit they then get (much like a normal T1 'honeymoon' period) has run its course and the area they live happen to run them?

Anyone know?
 
As long as it's the GP who refers you to the course, I don't think it's gonna happen because their records will irretrievably show the diagnosis as Type 2.
The consultants could do it, of course.

I do wish they'd chosen a better name than LADA, which our older members will remember as truly awful Russian made cars in the seventies, dirt cheap. The value doubled when you filled 'em with petrol.
 
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As long as it's the GP who refers you to the course, I don't think it's gonna happen because their records will irretrievably show the diagnosis as Type 2.
The consultants could do it, of course.

I do wish they'd chosen a better name than LADA, which our older members will remember as truly awful Russian made cars in the seventies, dirt cheap. The value doubled when you filled 'em with petrol.
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When I was diagnosed 9 years ago, the hospital initially put Type 2 on my notes, because that's what I was referred as from my GP. Then they decided i was LADA, then when I progressed to full Basal Bolus in a matter of months, they dropped that term as not being terribly helpful and just called it 'Auto-Immune'
But it took several goes at asking my GP to change my surgery notes to Type 1 (the nurse at the surgery did it eventually). I think my GP's mindset, that I must be Type 2 because of my age, ( she actually queried why I'd been taken off Metformin, as I 'must be insulin resistant') meant that she didn't really take on board the implications of my hospital reports using the terminology they did.
I don't think she's a bad GP, I just don't think she'd ever come across some one aged 51 developing type 1 before. She's now fully accepting that I am indeed Type 1.
 
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