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Hi all, As you probably know by now I am trying to recover from depression and anxiety. I am on anti-depressants and am doing ok in general but often get very terrifying feelings of desperation - I am feeling bad this morning. It is like there is someone else in me - I get horrible thoughts of taking an overdose of insulin to have a bad hypo or I just want to run away and keep running. It is terrifying me because most of the time I am cheerful and bubbly, but when I am like this I am a different person in my head. I have found in the last 2 weeks that mondays are a bad day - the first day at home on my own after the weekend and the church cafe where I volunteer is closed on a monday so my usual escape route is closed! Does anyone have any ideas for things that I can do on a monday morning to prevent these feelings creeping up on me? Exercise in the morning is not going to help - I can barely get up the stairs because of my fatigue issues.
 
Hi Natalie

Your honest and detailed post is a great start. I would have mentioned exercise if you hadn't explained about your fatigues issues.

As a very quick solution, would phoning Samaritans help? Volunteers are anonymous and non judgmental and no follow-on. Some times a better solution that speaking with a friend or relative.

Phone number is 0845 90 90 90. More methods of contact eg phone numeers of local branches (may be cheaper than 0845 number), email, letters & call into branch at http://www.samaritans.org/

As a longer term solution, is there somewhere else eg another cafe or shop, where you could volunteer on a Monday? Your cafe volunteers / staff may have some ideas when you go into tomorrow.
 
Thanks Copepod, I hadn't thought of that, I might try phoning, but I am worried of what my partner might think of me phoning them if it comes up on the phone bill. Silly worry I know. I will ask in the cafe tomorrow and see if they know of anything I can do on a monday. I find music helps, I love piano music, am listening to Elton John at the moment.
 
depression worries
Hi all, As you probably know by now I am trying to recover from depression and anxiety. I am on anti-depressants and am doing ok in general but often get very terrifying feelings of desperation - I am feeling bad this morning. It is like there is someone else in me - I get horrible thoughts of taking an overdose of insulin to have a bad hypo or I just want to run away and keep running. It is terrifying me because most of the time I am cheerful and bubbly, but when I am like this I am a different person in my head. I have found in the last 2 weeks that mondays are a bad day - the first day at home on my own after the weekend and the church cafe where I volunteer is closed on a monday so my usual escape route is closed! Does anyone have any ideas for things that I can do on a monday morning to prevent these feelings creeping up on me? Exercise in the morning is not going to help - I can barely get up the stairs because of my fatigue issues.
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Do you have a CPN/SW you can talk to, or a partner can you talk to your GP about it. Safety aspect of your insulin can you hand it to someone else for today so that they handle it for you. Dont take an overdose of it you cant judge the amount that would give you a hypo you could end up with brain damage or worse. Take this from someone who has done this and ended up in hospital and under section because of it I can understand the feeling of wanting to run away . You need to work out why you feel like this on a monday if as you say your normal escape route of the church cafe is closed how about finding some other place to help out. Meet friends for coffee, how about some of the other volunteers from the church you never know they may be in same straights. There are loads of possibility's out there, try your local volunteer place. You could make mondays your ME DAY a day when its all about you, treat yourself to a day of doing things you like anything from having a soak in nice smellies to doing some artwork even if its a day of being lasy or as I like to say A DAY OF THINKING. You say exercise is out due to your fatigue issues how about some simple chair based exercises or a gentle swim, you dont even have to swim you can just mess about in the water. Exercise is good for you and releases endorphins into the brain which can help you feel better. It does not have to be serious exercise. Please feel free to PM me at any time
Some good helplines if the sh*t does hit the fan for you are


SANELINE runs a national, out-of-hours helpline offering specialist emotional support and information to anyone affected by mental illness, including family, friends and carers. We are open every day of the year from 6pm to 11pm.0845 767 8000


SAMARITANS

Call 08457 909090 in the UK 24 hours a day

NHS DIRECT-0845 4647
 
Shame that there's no adult equivalent of Childline - 0800 number so that is doesn't appear on phone bills. I'm nor sure whether Samaritans will phone you back, but worth emailing to ask, and if they do, you could phone from a phone box (not cheap, I know, but private) and ask them to phone your home number after a period when you can get back.

Combat Stress, which can only help current or former members of armed forces, has a freephone support line 0800 138 1619 - really sorry if thye doesn't apply to you, as it wouldn't show up on your phone bill. However, I'd hope that your partner wouldn't worry about a phone call - is it the cost or the implications that worry you?

Rethink have a number open Mon - Fri 10am to 1pm only 0300 5000 927, which costs same as a geographical number.

And Elton John usually helps! Tuneful, emotional etc.

I don't listen to music much, but there have been times when the "right" music has come on the radio at just the right time - most notably, although it probably won't make sense to anyone else, Bare Naked Ladies, to which I'd been introduced when working with Canadians on a development project in Costa Rica, when driving to visit my seriously ill grandad and support grandma, when my mum, their daughter, was stuck overseas.
 
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Thanks Gail, I don't think I would ever do anything about my thoughts, they are terrifying. If I get really bad I phone a friend and they help me out of it and make sure I am safe. I feel bad about asking friends for help because most of them are needing help too! I guess between us we are helping each other out.

I have to go for a meeting at oxford hospital in a bit - I am writing a talk about what the Diabetes Research network do for a conference on 24th November in London. I'm nevous, not sure what will be expected of me. I will be back later this afternoon so will have to let you all know
 
Hi Natalie, I see you have been given some great advice already, just wanted to wish you well for the visit - you are a lovely, intelligent young woman and I'm sure things will go well for you. Have you considered perhaps helping out in a charity shop near you on Mondays? I can undersatnd that feeling of being stuck in and needing something to occupy yourself.
 
Hope the meeting at Oxford Hospital helps you to formulate your talk. Vital to know things like length required, audience, facilities / equipment etc. Will be great to hear back from you. Good thing it's Monday, to avoid "conflict" with your cafe duties!

Which reminds me, I must check about who has registered to attend, so I can plan more for the GPS navigation course I'm running on Sat 12th Nov.
 
Hi Natalie,

You have been given some great advice.

You might like to look at this link, http://www.depressionalliance.org/. There are some good links there and you can join a group and share your experiences
or take advantage of a pen pal who has also suffered from this illness.

Don't ever feel guilty about being depressed, it is a recognised illness and "a problem shared is a problem halved" really does work.
 
Hi Natalie

I haven't got any other suggestions apart from wondering whether there is a dog that you can "borrow" on Mondays, e.g. for somebody who is out at work. They provide such a wonderful distraction and are genuinely good listeners - it always amazes me how much Susie can cheer me up. I really hope that you are able to get the help that you need. Thinking of you lots.
 
Natalie I am sorry you feel so bad. I have felt in the past like I wanted to run away and leave my head behind.

Is there anything like embroidery, cross-stitch or reading that you like where you could engross yourself in the activity.

I know its easy to say but its the anxiety that is making you feel your partner will think bad of you. If they truly love you they will understand that you need to take care of yourself. Maybe in one of your more bubbly moments you could bring up the subject of support lines.

Hope you are feeling better soon {{{{Natalie}}}}
 
Natalie - Huggs!

I understand your trepidation about your partner knowing; it's so hard trying to explain why you felt the need to do summat like that when the OH ain't sitting in your shoes. They say things like Oh you should have told me, I'd have understood .. and you know they mean it, but also know they wouldn't ....

Are you having counselling? Cos you certainly should be.

I didn't know it until about 2 years afterwards but the one I got, based her technique on CBT in other words lead me to think about the reasons why I might be 'me' and therefore, why I 'always' behaved/reacted in certain ways. Not why I wanted to drive my car into a tree a week last Wednesday, that was, like you, not the 'normal' me. I found it really interesting, because you accept what you do and how you do it without questioning why - was it something you had to learn in order to get by, and has become such a habit you don't realise you are doing it - or would you have always done exactly the same thing anyway without interference ....... and is it really a good or bad thing for you anyway? There were tears at times, but I remember the laughter more .....

And are you on the right Anti-D's? And have you even told your GP how it's getting to you? I for one found that really hard more than once but you know when I eventually managed to, it was always like I'd rid myself of half a ton of bricks ......

Finally you know, I kinda worked out that as long as once I'd had the horrible thoughts and argued with myself that it would just be stupid, then I wasn't actually completely bonkers after all and there must be some hope for me.

Do the Guide Dogs place or the RSPCA or another animal charity need volunteers to do 'whatever' on a Monday? Or anyone local, maybe an elderly person or disabled, who needs a dog walked? Do you even like dogs? LOL

Local Library - Silver Surfers? Start a Book Club?

Ralph Ormrod told me last week you'd been elected Lay Chair of 'our' bit of the Network - many many congratulations - I understand your trepidation about the talk, but honestly if they didn't think you could do it, you'd never have been considered for the job in the first place, would you? and they'd have 'picked' someone else more suitable. (You know this happens; you only get one volunteer but if the great and the good don't think the person is suitable, they soon make it their business to err cajole someone else they deem more suitable into 'volunteering' ....)
 
Hi Natalie

I haven't got any other suggestions apart from wondering whether there is a dog that you can "borrow" on Mondays, e.g. for somebody who is out at work. They provide such a wonderful distraction and are genuinely good listeners - it always amazes me how much Susie can cheer me up. I really hope that you are able to get the help that you need. Thinking of you lots.
Thanks Amanda, the dog sitting things sounds like a lovely idea, I love animals. I will ask around in the cafe and see if anyone wants company for their doggie 🙂
 
Natalie - Huggs!

I understand your trepidation about your partner knowing; it's so hard trying to explain why you felt the need to do summat like that when the OH ain't sitting in your shoes. They say things like Oh you should have told me, I'd have understood .. and you know they mean it, but also know they wouldn't ....

Are you having counselling? Cos you certainly should be.

I didn't know it until about 2 years afterwards but the one I got, based her technique on CBT in other words lead me to think about the reasons why I might be 'me' and therefore, why I 'always' behaved/reacted in certain ways. Not why I wanted to drive my car into a tree a week last Wednesday, that was, like you, not the 'normal' me. I found it really interesting, because you accept what you do and how you do it without questioning why - was it something you had to learn in order to get by, and has become such a habit you don't realise you are doing it - or would you have always done exactly the same thing anyway without interference ....... and is it really a good or bad thing for you anyway? There were tears at times, but I remember the laughter more .....

And are you on the right Anti-D's? And have you even told your GP how it's getting to you? I for one found that really hard more than once but you know when I eventually managed to, it was always like I'd rid myself of half a ton of bricks ......

Finally you know, I kinda worked out that as long as once I'd had the horrible thoughts and argued with myself that it would just be stupid, then I wasn't actually completely bonkers after all and there must be some hope for me.

Do the Guide Dogs place or the RSPCA or another animal charity need volunteers to do 'whatever' on a Monday? Or anyone local, maybe an elderly person or disabled, who needs a dog walked? Do you even like dogs? LOL

Local Library - Silver Surfers? Start a Book Club?

Ralph Ormrod told me last week you'd been elected Lay Chair of 'our' bit of the Network - many many congratulations - I understand your trepidation about the talk, but honestly if they didn't think you could do it, you'd never have been considered for the job in the first place, would you? and they'd have 'picked' someone else more suitable. (You know this happens; you only get one volunteer but if the great and the good don't think the person is suitable, they soon make it their business to err cajole someone else they deem more suitable into 'volunteering' ....)
Hi Jenny! Thanks for the support. I hope Ralph said good things about me 😱 I really enjoy the position as chair, I get to talk lots :D

I love dogs, and other animals too, so maybe I could contact the RSPCA or other local charity and see if there is anything I could help with on a Monday, that would definitely help.

I am seeing a phychologist at the moment, it was originally organised to help me with my needle phobias but I was really unwell last week and ended up in tears about things. I'm not sure to be honest how much it is helping me, to be honest she upset me and made me angry last week. I am the sort of person who needs company to be happy and I like to help people as much as possible - that is what makes me happy. Although I am aware that my depression is a problem I do feel that I have improved hugely and am enjoying life the majority of the time. I really want to be a support worker and am looking for a job. The psychologist said that I am only "helping people" because I am needy and really I am doing it only for myself. She also said that I am not emotionally stable enough to be a support worker which really upset me because she destroyed my hopes.
 
Don't be disheartened by one person's opinions Natalie. Often, strength comes from doing what you love to do, so stick with your dreams 🙂
 
There are some great replies here, so I hope you have found something that helps and you feel better soon.
 
I must admit my cat always improves my mood, make me laugh lots when she goes crazy under newspapers, rugs etc and often sits, purring, on my shoulders as I type.

Hope you find some animals to support if human support work isn't right for you.
 
Natalie! - that's awful - was she interviewing you for the ruddy job, and doing a psychological assessment, or what?

I mean - well you aren't 100% at the moment, are you? So fine - in that case you might easily not be suitable for whatever job - at the moment. And in any case, even if you are emotionally unstable, surely it's her job to discover why - and then help you overcome whatever it is/was?

Hmm, I know nothing here - but did she know how angry you were/are at her? D'you think the statement may have actually been designed to provoke you?

:confused:

Ralph was complimentary; I wouldn't mention it if he wasn't!
 
Hi Jenny! Thanks for the support. I hope Ralph said good things about me 😱 I really enjoy the position as chair, I get to talk lots :D

I love dogs, and other animals too, so maybe I could contact the RSPCA or other local charity and see if there is anything I could help with on a Monday, that would definitely help.

I am seeing a phychologist at the moment, it was originally organised to help me with my needle phobias but I was really unwell last week and ended up in tears about things. I'm not sure to be honest how much it is helping me, to be honest she upset me and made me angry last week. I am the sort of person who needs company to be happy and I like to help people as much as possible - that is what makes me happy. Although I am aware that my depression is a problem I do feel that I have improved hugely and am enjoying life the majority of the time. I really want to be a support worker and am looking for a job. The psychologist said that I am only "helping people" because I am needy and really I am doing it only for myself. She also said that I am not emotionally stable enough to be a support worker which really upset me because she destroyed my hopes.

Just because she is a psychologist doesn't mean she is right 😡 You sound very self aware so there would be no reason for you not to be a support worker IMO. You have identified the things that make you happy and improve your mood so why not work towards that - makes sense to me. Having experienced difficulties means you can offer lots of genuine empathy and support to others. Don't let her comments put you off! Best of luck and hope your feeling much better soon 🙂
 
Hello Natalie. I know just how you feel. I am being treated for depression and really bad panic attacks. I am also on anti-depressants. I am being helped by councilor and I am using an online course, provided by nhs, which you do a chapter a week, of exercises to help build confidence and self help things to help. If you are interested in this send me a pm and I'll pm you the details.
 
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