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DAfne app

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Hi. I am a type 2 insulin dependant. Today I went to the clinic and during my consultation my consultant recommended I down load and use the DAfne app to help control how much insulin I inject at meal times. I am interested to hear if any others have used this and if it has made a difference.

Many thanks.

Andy.
 
I didn't know there was a DAFNE app to download, is this a mobile app? is it for android or iphones? I would be interested to hear more on this, sorry that I haven't been able to answer your question and have waded in with more questions! xx
 
Hi Kayla.

I’ve downloaded it to my phone. I got it from the Samsung App Store for free.
 
andyboy said:
Hi Kayla.

I’ve downloaded it to my phone. I got it from the Samsung App Store for free.
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Ooooh thanks for that, its a Samsung I have so I'll have a look for it when my phones charged, thanks and sorry again! xx
 
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Kaylz sorry dam spell check
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Haha, don't worry about it, happens all the time, did wonder why so many were calling me kayla to begin with though! 🙂 xx
 
A is just above slightly to the left of the Z on a normal QWERTY keyboard too, so easy to mis-type!
 
Thanks, Andy! 🙂 It’s on iPhone too. Will be learning to carb count soon from my hospital dietian, despite not officially advocating carb counting in T2’s!
 
Have you had a chance to have a look at the App - or has anyone - what does it offer and is it useful?
 
I’ve had a quick look & it’s just a diary for your BS, carbs, insulin doses, food etc. The food section has very few items on it. It appears to be an easier to access by mobile phone of their main website. I went ahead & joined on the dafne online site to see if there are any extras but, there isn’t. Oh, nearly forgot, there’s a forum as well. I’m quite disappointed, actually, in how small the food section is: there’s much more food covered by the carbs & cals book. Also, it only states how many CP’s are in each food item & I don’t know what that means! What is that in g carbs?
 
Lanny said:
I’ve had a quick look & it’s just a diary for your BS, carbs, insulin doses, food etc. The food section has very few items on it. It appears to be an easier to access by mobile phone of their main website. I went ahead & joined on the dafne online site to see if there are any extras but, there isn’t. Oh, nearly forgot, there’s a forum as well. I’m quite disappointed, actually, in how small the food section is: there’s much more food covered by the carbs & cals book. Also, it only states how many CP’s are in each food item & I don’t know what that means! What is that in g carbs?
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1 CP is the carb value that one unit of insulin handles for you personally.
It seems an unnecessary complication when grams are grams for everyone but that is how some places advocate calculating..
 
Lanny said:
I’ve had a quick look & it’s just a diary for your BS, carbs, insulin doses, food etc. The food section has very few items on it. It appears to be an easier to access by mobile phone of their main website. I went ahead & joined on the dafne online site to see if there are any extras but, there isn’t. Oh, nearly forgot, there’s a forum as well. I’m quite disappointed, actually, in how small the food section is: there’s much more food covered by the carbs & cals book. Also, it only states how many CP’s are in each food item & I don’t know what that means! What is that in g carbs?
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A CP was 10-12g when I did DAFNE. That imprecision annoyed me at the time because the difference between 4 CPs at the extremes of the range is nearly a unit of insulin. Since then I have realised from looking at different carb counting sources that carb counts are not that accurate anyway!
 
What very odd terminology to use! The 'Carb portion' unit was supposed to be coming in to general use - again - in the early noughties and is equal to TEN grams of carb. In the 70s when I was diagnosed they were used and usually called either 'exchanges' or 'portions' and your daily dose of insulin accounted for X number of these. Mine was 10 exchanges so 100g carb, because we all had to 'eat to the insulin' and didn't adjust doses of it. (In the Coventry and N Warwickshire area they were called 'lines' for some unknown reason) The whole concept of any carb counting disappeared entirely sometime in the 80s in Coventry - never understood why.

However in the UK, it disappeared as quickly as it arrived but we gradually accepted DAFNE (and carb counting again in the noughties) which is a German invention, which they brought in at the same time so the terminology dates back to then (last century LOL) though BDEC also invented BERTIE at around the same time.

Never been to Germany so no idea if they still use CPs or whether DAFNE still use it in the UK now.

Grams is much clearer to understand.
 
trophywench said:
What very odd terminology to use! The 'Carb portion' unit was supposed to be coming in to general use - again - in the early noughties and is equal to TEN grams of carb. In the 70s when I was diagnosed they were used and usually called either 'exchanges' or 'portions' and your daily dose of insulin accounted for X number of these. Mine was 10 exchanges so 100g carb, because we all had to 'eat to the insulin' and didn't adjust doses of it. (In the Coventry and N Warwickshire area they were called 'lines' for some unknown reason) The whole concept of any carb counting disappeared entirely sometime in the 80s in Coventry - never understood why.

However in the UK, it disappeared as quickly as it arrived but we gradually accepted DAFNE (and carb counting again in the noughties) which is a German invention, which they brought in at the same time so the terminology dates back to then (last century LOL) though BDEC also invented BERTIE at around the same time.

Never been to Germany so no idea if they still use CPs or whether DAFNE still use it in the UK now.

Grams is much clearer to understand.
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I think it disappeared because that was when they introduced the concept of healthy eating.
 
Yes but is it still a feature of modern UK DAFNE courses?

Think @eggyg has just been on one - can you answer the question please?
 
Yes the CP is alive and kicking. 1 CP = 10 grams carbs. Some couldn’t get their heads round it, I just wrote down how many grams of carbs I had had and put a decimal point in the middle! They said we could use either but all the reading matter mentions CPs.
 
I’ve just learnt more about my diabetes and gained excellent control in a 1 week DAFNE course than I have over the last 17 years. I think it either clicks and makes perfect sense or it doesn’t. I was a bit dubious on Monday, understood some principals but didn’t see the benefit on Tuesday and on Wednesday I got it. I was confident enough to apply the DAFNE principals and change all of my doses accordingly and have been within range ever since. I was injecting anywhere between 35-50 units of NovoRapid per meal and hitting constant highs of 20-35, plus I put tonnes of weight on. Now I’m injecting as little as 3 units, am hitting 6-8 and hopefully will lose some weight lol. Also, I’m not as hungry all the time due to decreased insulin intake. I am so happy to have to done my DAFNE course, it has not only changed my life but hopefully extended it as well
 
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