Covid variant found in India may delay lifting of England restrictions, minister admits

[Eddy Edson]

Pm133,

I have said exactly what I mean, that's about as concise as I can make it.

There is a huge difference between being tested positive for sarscov2 (a virus) and people coming away from the covid19 testing centres thinking they have covid19. If they had a bad dose of covid19 they probably wouldn't even make it to the test centre.

As I said, ask anyone who has suffered with covid19 if they think it's the same as just getting a positive pcr test result.

Anyone who works as a professional in any field will know how important it is to use the correct terminology. Specific words mean very specific things, very definite and unarguable definitions. I don't think one could argue with their peers about it, one certainly couldn't use the argument "you are just splitting hairs" as an argument for using the wrong terminology when it comes to viruses and diseases.

This looks like an offshoot of the "casedemic" myth which was being promoted late last year by denialists and quacks like Joe Mercola: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-covid-19-casedemic/

 

[pm133]

Pm133,

I have said exactly what I mean, that's about as concise as I can make it.

There is a huge difference between being tested positive for sarscov2 (a virus) and people coming away from the covid19 testing centres thinking they have covid19. If they had a bad dose of covid19 they probably wouldn't even make it to the test centre.

As I said, ask anyone who has suffered with covid19 if they think it's the same as just getting a positive pcr test result.

Anyone who works as a professional in any field will know how important it is to use the correct terminology. Specific words mean very specific things, very definite and unarguable definitions. I don't think one could argue with their peers about it, one certainly couldn't use the argument "you are just splitting hairs" as an argument for using the wrong terminology when it comes to viruses and diseases.

Sorry bud. I am obviously missing the point you are making.
Are you claiming people shouldn't get tested?
Are you claiming not enough people are being tested?
Or something else?

 

[Amity Island]

Sorry bud. I am obviously missing the point you are making.
Are you claiming people shouldn't get tested?
Are you claiming not enough people are being tested?
Or something else?

Hi Pm133,

I'm just saying they need to get their terminology right. When countrywide test centres are established to carry out testing, they should at least be accurately named. They are not testing for a disease named covid19, as the name covid19 test centre infers. They are testing for a virus named sarscov2. I think many people will not understand that and may come away thinking they "have" covid19 instead of only having a positive sarscov2 test.

Having a positive test does not mean you have covid19. Not everyone goes on to develop covid19 and not everyone of those who do develop covid19 end up in hospital or intensive care.

I just think it's a bit of a leap from a positive to test to covid19 to ICU.

 

[Amity Island]

This looks like an offshoot of the "casedemic" myth which was being promoted late last year by denialists and quacks like Joe Mercola: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-covid-19-casedemic/

Hi Eddy,

I am not denying anything, just have an issue with the test centres called "covid19 test centres" when this just isn't the case. Sarscov2 and covid19 are are just 2 different things. To use an analagy like mother and daughter, yes they are related but they are not the same thing. It's usually quite clear who the mother is and who the daughter is.

I'm not denying either.

 

[pm133]

not everyone of those who do develop covid19 end up in hospital or intensive care.

I just think it's a bit of a leap from a positive to test to covid19 to ICU.

I'm not aware of anyone who is disputing any of that. Is anyone doing that?

 

[Bruce Stephens]

Having a positive test does not mean you have covid19. Not everyone goes on to develop covid19 and not everyone of those who do develop covid19 end up in hospital or intensive care.

Everyone knows that, don't they?

Is anyone at all visiting a test centre which says "covid19" going to be confused? Would they be less or more confused if it said "SARS-CoV-2", without mentioning covid19 anywhere?

 

[Robin]

Everyone knows that, don't they?

Is anyone at all visiting a test centre which says "covid19" going to be confused? Would they be less or more confused if it said "SARS-CoV-2", without mentioning covid19 anywhere?

I think the right thing to call it is a Covid 19 test. People might feel that if someone said 'you’ve got sars-cov-2 virus present, but that doesn’t mean you’ve got Covid19', they’d be less likely to isolate, if they felt they may not actually have got the disease. And we need them to isolate in case they have got enough of the virus to be able to spread it.

 

[Amity Island]

I think the right thing to call it is a Covid 19 test. People might feel that if someone said 'you’ve got sars-cov-2 virus present, but that doesn’t mean you’ve got Covid19', they’d be less likely to isolate, if they felt they may not actually have got the disease. And we need them to isolate in case they have got enough of the virus to be able to spread it.

Hi Robin

You are entitled to your opinion and I wouldn't expect you to change it.